Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-03 Thread Robin Getz
On Thu 3 Jan 2008 12:04, Richard D pondered: > Does all USB Host controller hardware have the ability to disable PING? I think they do. (or at least should)... http://www.intel.com/technology/usb/download/ehci-r10.pdf == 4.11 Ping Control (page 88) USB 2.0 defines an addition to

RE: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-03 Thread Richard D
Does all USB Host controller hardware have the ability to disable PING? > > > 2. Do you remember the PING issue I reported in OMAP list? How do > you > > > think of that? > > > > Yes, something needs to be done. EHCI might benefit from the same > > kind of patch, to cope with ill-behaved usb thum

RE: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-03 Thread Richard D
ernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB > options normally reserved for OTG > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, David Brownell wrote: > > > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Alan Stern wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Mike Frys

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-03 Thread Bryan Wu
On Jan 3, 2008 3:36 PM, David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Bryan Wu wrote: > > B.T.W, 2 questions about the MUSB driver: > > 1. What's the plan for mainline merge of the whole MUSB driver? maybe > > I can cleanup current Blackfin ports to you guys. > > It migh

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Getz
On Wed 2 Jan 2008 22:43, David Brownell pondered: > This patch might be improved slightly -- in ways that, as I > understand things, could save some RAM on Blackfin! -- by > having the BLACKLIST_HUB option get rid of the transaction > translator support (changing C code not just Kconfig). > It's pr

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread David Brownell
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Bryan Wu wrote: > B.T.W, 2 questions about the MUSB driver: > 1. What's the plan for mainline merge of the whole MUSB driver? maybe > I can cleanup current Blackfin ports to you guys. It might as well merge in 2.6.25-early. It'll be easier to integrate patches that w

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Bryan Wu
On Jan 3, 2008 11:43 AM, David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > > On Wed 2 Jan 2008 13:47, David Brownell pondered: > > > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > > > > From: Robin Getz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Allow embedde

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Bryan Wu
On Jan 3, 2008 4:58 AM, Alan Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, David Brownell wrote: > > > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Alan Stern wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > > > perhaps the code size is arguable as to whether it really matters. > > > > th

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread David Brownell
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > On Wed 2 Jan 2008 13:47, David Brownell pondered: > > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > > > From: Robin Getz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Allow embedded developers to turn support for USB Hubs off even if > > > they have a full r

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread David Brownell
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Alan Stern wrote: > > > The transaction translators in external high speed hubs require > > hosts to issue particular USB transactions.  If the host controller > > doesn't implement the that split transaction support, then it won't > > be supporting external hubs. >

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Bryan Wu
On Jan 3, 2008 2:47 AM, David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > > From: Robin Getz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Allow embedded developers to turn support for USB Hubs off even if they > > have a > > full root hub. This saves the overhead (RAM an

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Robin Getz
On Wed 2 Jan 2008 13:47, David Brownell pondered: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > > From: Robin Getz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Allow embedded developers to turn support for USB Hubs off even if > > they have a full root hub. This saves the overhead (RAM and Flash size). > >

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Alan Stern
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, David Brownell wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Alan Stern wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > perhaps the code size is arguable as to whether it really matters. > > > the reason we want it is that we have a USB host controller that will > > >

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread David Brownell
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Alan Stern wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > perhaps the code size is arguable as to whether it really matters. > > the reason we want it is that we have a USB host controller that will > > not work with USB hubs, so we want to make sure the sys

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Alan Stern
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote: > perhaps the code size is arguable as to whether it really matters. > the reason we want it is that we have a USB host controller that will > not work with USB hubs, so we want to make sure the system does not > attempt such things. (yes, such a USB host

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Felipe Balbi
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:47:15AM -0800, David Brownell wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > > From: Robin Getz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Allow embedded developers to turn support for USB Hubs off even if they > > have a > > full root hub. This saves the overhead (RAM an

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread David Brownell
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > > Allow embedded developers to turn support for USB Hubs off even if they > > > have a > > > full root hub. This saves the overhead (RAM and Flash size). > > > > ISTR that it won't save very much code though ... the Linux USB > > stack

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread David Brownell
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Felipe Balbi wrote: >The problem I see here is that my only > "user" is musb driver, currently only available on linux-omap git tree. > > Maybe it's time to send it to mainline, what do you think Dave? Probably time, yes. ISTR the main open issues are on hos

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Jan 2, 2008 1:47 PM, David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > > From: Robin Getz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Allow embedded developers to turn support for USB Hubs off even if they > > have a > > full root hub. This saves the overhead (RAM an

Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG

2008-01-02 Thread David Brownell
On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Robin Getz wrote: > From: Robin Getz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Allow embedded developers to turn support for USB Hubs off even if they have > a > full root hub. This saves the overhead (RAM and Flash size). ISTR that it won't save very much code though ... the Linux