On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:53:10PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:06:44AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > >
> > > Seriously, this helps only in the cases where the stuff the distro
> > > actually needs is in m
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:57:26PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> Yes, I know you know this already, as we discussed it in a pub over a
> beer (choir practice). But this is a public forum on LKML (the church),
> where I now have an audience of heathens. Convert! Convert! You are all
> sinners!
Ah,
On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 19:34 +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > I can pass the above to a allnoconfig, and the box will boot and allow
> > ssh. Note, the reason for the serial config, is that this ktest run uses
> > a serial port to see if the box booted. If the serial isn't there, then
> > it think
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:06:44AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> >
> > Seriously, this helps only in the cases where the stuff the distro
> > actually needs is in modules. So, there probably are obscure situations
> > where you need to ena
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 01:02:46PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> This is why I created the make-min-config in ktest. It keeps on
> disabling configs to see what the machine needs to boot (and optionally
> run some test), and what configs it can disable. It does not touch the
> multi options though
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>
> Seriously, this helps only in the cases where the stuff the distro
> actually needs is in modules. So, there probably are obscure situations
> where you need to enable stuff which is bool and not M.
Sadly, not obscure at all.
Most of th
On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 18:48 +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > Also, if you are building on another box than what the kernel is for,
> > you can go to that box and run 'lsmod > /tmp/lsmod'. Copy that file to
> > the build machine (into /tmp/lsmod), and then run
> > 'make LSMOD=/tmp/lsmod localmodco
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:42:17AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 07:48:27PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> >
> > Let's have an example: when I have to build upstream on a distro here,
> > I take the distro config and use it despite that it takes a long time
> > to build s
On 17.7.2012 10:03, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Linus Torvalds
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
>>> Some of the proposed ways to implement the minimum distro kernel would not
>>> allow you to override the distro defaults because they would be
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 07:48:27PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>
> Let's have an example: when I have to build upstream on a distro here,
> I take the distro config and use it despite that it takes a long time
> to build since everything is module - it is still better for me to
> wait that one t
* da...@lang.hm wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> >* da...@lang.hm wrote:
> >
> >>>Anybody who says "I want to run Fedora without SELINUX
> >>>because I do my own security development" is by *definition*
> >>>not relevant to the whole feature.
> >>
> >>Don't mistake the exam
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* da...@lang.hm wrote:
Anybody who says "I want to run Fedora without SELINUX
because I do my own security development" is by *definition*
not relevant to the whole feature.
Don't mistake the example for the feature. the SELINUX thing
is just an examp
* da...@lang.hm wrote:
> > Anybody who says "I want to run Fedora without SELINUX
> > because I do my own security development" is by *definition*
> > not relevant to the whole feature.
>
> Don't mistake the example for the feature. the SELINUX thing
> is just an example. As Alan Cox comment
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Linus Torvalds
wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
>> Some of the proposed ways to implement the minimum distro kernel would not
>> allow you to override the distro defaults because they would be implemented
>> by setting dependancies, not by selec
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
Some of the proposed ways to implement the minimum distro kernel would not
allow you to override the distro defaults because they would be implemented
by setting dependancies, not by selecting options that yo
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM, wrote:
>
> Some of the proposed ways to implement the minimum distro kernel would not
> allow you to override the distro defaults because they would be implemented
> by setting dependancies, not by selecting options that you as the user could
> then unselect.
Th
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:43 AM, wrote:
The problem is that you can't select the Fedora profile and then unselect
SELINUX, so the profile will do you no good.
Guys, stop it now.
Your "problem" isn't what any sane person cares about, and isn't wha
Dear all,
I usually don't take part of discussions in LKML but I recognized myself
in what Linus is actually describing as a "normal user" (one of the few
insane enough to read the mailing list...) so I wrote a few ideas below...
Please give me your thoughts Benjamin
On 7/16/12 6:50 PM, "Linus T
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Alan Cox wrote:
Select the profile and then fixup the config the normal way.
If what the admin wants is incompatible with the profile, admin doesn't
select the profile.
Thats ugly - "distro except..." is a standard thing you ask users to do
for debugging.
However providi
> Select the profile and then fixup the config the normal way.
>
> If what the admin wants is incompatible with the profile, admin doesn't
> select the profile.
Thats ugly - "distro except..." is a standard thing you ask users to do
for debugging.
However providing you separate the initial profi
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:43 AM, wrote:
>
> The problem is that you can't select the Fedora profile and then unselect
> SELINUX, so the profile will do you no good.
Guys, stop it now.
Your "problem" isn't what any sane person cares about, and isn't what
I started the RFC for.
Seriously. NOBODY
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 03:09:12PM -0700, da...@lang.hm wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
Replying to David's message (sorry for delay) I fear having a bunch of
miniconfig files will end up in a mess. Maybe (maybe (!) I don't know s
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 03:09:12PM -0700, da...@lang.hm wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
>
> >Replying to David's message (sorry for delay) I fear having a bunch of
> >miniconfig files will end up in a mess. Maybe (maybe (!) I don't know since
> >I've no time at moment to read
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 03:09:12PM -0700, da...@lang.hm wrote:
3. by simply combining miniconfig files, you can combine sets of
pre-defined options
Wait, David, I'm lost. These miniconfigs should live somewhere on
my home directory (if they are out
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 03:09:12PM -0700, da...@lang.hm wrote:
>
> 3. by simply combining miniconfig files, you can combine sets of
> pre-defined options
Wait, David, I'm lost. These miniconfigs should live somewhere on
my home directory (if they are out of mainline tree)?
Cyrill
--
To u
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
Replying to David's message (sorry for delay) I fear having a bunch of
miniconfig files will end up in a mess. Maybe (maybe (!) I don't know since
I've no time at moment to read kconfig code and I'm not sure if this
is right direction at all) it would
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:18:48PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 01:17:16PM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > > Yes, something like KVMTOOL_TEST_ENABLE except not a make target but a
> > > Kconfig option.
> >
> > It is a config option too - "make kvmconfig" simply enables it
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 01:17:16PM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> > Yes, something like KVMTOOL_TEST_ENABLE except not a make target but a
> > Kconfig option.
>
> It is a config option too - "make kvmconfig" simply enables it.
Right, so how about something more concrete in this whole discussion:
M
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:12:05PM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>> We have "make kvmconfig" in the KVM tool tree that pretty much does
>> that automatically. There's nothing tools/kvm specific about it so I
>> guess you could merge that separ
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:12:05PM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> We have "make kvmconfig" in the KVM tool tree that pretty much does
> that automatically. There's nothing tools/kvm specific about it so I
> guess you could merge that separately.
Yes, something like KVMTOOL_TEST_ENABLE except not a m
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 07:48:27PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 04:43:32PM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
For example to enable "PCI driver for virtio devices" I need to go to
Device Drivers -> Virtio drivers, while I think it
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 07:48:27PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 04:43:32PM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> > For example to enable "PCI driver for virtio devices" I need to go to
> > Device Drivers -> Virtio drivers, while I think it would be great to
> > have everything
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 04:43:32PM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> For example to enable "PCI driver for virtio devices" I need to go to
> Device Drivers -> Virtio drivers, while I think it would be great to
> have everything virt. related in Virtualization section.
Actually, we need something mor
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:12:05PM +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:41:21PM +0200, richard -rw- weinberger wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Myklebust, Trond
> >> wrote:
> >> > We could at least make se
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:41:21PM +0200, richard -rw- weinberger wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Myklebust, Trond
>> wrote:
>> > We could at least make selection of a minimal set of drivers for the
>> > more common virtualised
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:41:21PM +0200, richard -rw- weinberger wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Myklebust, Trond
> wrote:
> > We could at least make selection of a minimal set of drivers for the
> > more common virtualised platforms a lot easier.
> > Right now, you need to hunt throug
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Myklebust, Trond
wrote:
> We could at least make selection of a minimal set of drivers for the
> more common virtualised platforms a lot easier.
> Right now, you need to hunt through 30+ different menus in order to find
> what you need to run in a basic KVM virtua
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