Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-11 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 06:46 +1100, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: > Dear Mike, > > Did you check whether setting min_- and max_interval e.g. as per > https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/11/34 > would help with your issue (instead of your "horrible gs destroying" > patch)? I spent a lot of MY time

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-11 Thread paul . szabo
Dear Mike, Did you check whether setting min_- and max_interval e.g. as per https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/11/34 would help with your issue (instead of your "horrible gs destroying" patch)? Cheers, Paul Paul Szabo p...@maths.usyd.edu.au http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/ School of

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-11 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sun, 2015-10-11 at 20:25 +1100, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: > Dear Mike, > > > ... so yes, un-related. > > Thanks for clarifying. > > > I haven't seen the problem you reported. ... > > You mean you chose not to reproduce: you persisted in pinning your > perts.. There was hard data to

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-11 Thread paul . szabo
Dear Mike, > ... so yes, un-related. Thanks for clarifying. > I haven't seen the problem you reported. ... You mean you chose not to reproduce: you persisted in pinning your perts, whereas the problem was stated with un-pinned perts (and pinned oinks). But that is OK... others did reproduce,

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-11 Thread paul . szabo
Dear Mike, > ... so yes, un-related. Thanks for clarifying. > I haven't seen the problem you reported. ... You mean you chose not to reproduce: you persisted in pinning your perts, whereas the problem was stated with un-pinned perts (and pinned oinks). But that is OK... others did reproduce,

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-11 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sun, 2015-10-11 at 20:25 +1100, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: > Dear Mike, > > > ... so yes, un-related. > > Thanks for clarifying. > > > I haven't seen the problem you reported. ... > > You mean you chose not to reproduce: you persisted in pinning your > perts.. There was hard data to

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-11 Thread paul . szabo
Dear Mike, Did you check whether setting min_- and max_interval e.g. as per https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/11/34 would help with your issue (instead of your "horrible gs destroying" patch)? Cheers, Paul Paul Szabo p...@maths.usyd.edu.au http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/ School of

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-11 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Mon, 2015-10-12 at 06:46 +1100, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: > Dear Mike, > > Did you check whether setting min_- and max_interval e.g. as per > https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/11/34 > would help with your issue (instead of your "horrible gs destroying" > patch)? I spent a lot of MY time

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sun, 2015-10-11 at 07:14 +1100, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: > Dear Mike, > > You CCed me on this patch. Is that because you expect this to solve "my" > problem also? You had some measurements of many oinks vs many perts or > vs "desktop", but not many oinks vs 1 or 2 perts as per my

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 19:01 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > But the patch is most horrible.. :/ It completely destroys everything > group scheduling is supposed to be. Yeah, and it works great but... > What are these oink/pert things? Both spinners just with amusing names > to distinguish them?

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread paul . szabo
Dear Mike, You CCed me on this patch. Is that because you expect this to solve "my" problem also? You had some measurements of many oinks vs many perts or vs "desktop", but not many oinks vs 1 or 2 perts as per my "complaint". You also changed the subject line, so maybe this is all un-related.

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 07:01:42PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 03:22:49PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > Ah, but now onward to interactivity... > > > > master, 8 groups of 1 (pert) vs desktop (mplayer > > BigBuckBunny-DivXPlusHD.mkv) > > PID USER PR NIVIRT

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 03:22:49PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > Ah, but now onward to interactivity... > > master, 8 groups of 1 (pert) vs desktop (mplayer BigBuckBunny-DivXPlusHD.mkv) > PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ P COMMAND > 4068 root 20 0

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 22:03 +0800, kbuild test robot wrote: > Hi Mike, Hi there pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey bot. Eeee Ahhh :) sched: disable task group wide utilization based weight on the desktop Task group wide utilization based weight may work well for servers, but it is horrible on the

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread kbuild test robot
Hi Mike, [auto build test ERROR on v4.3-rc4 -- if it's inappropriate base, please ignore] config: mips-allyesconfig (attached as .config) reproduce: wget https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/wfg/lkp-tests.git/plain/sbin/make.cross -O ~/bin/make.cross chmod +x

[patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 13:19 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 09:54:21PM +1100, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: > > Good to see that you agree on the fairness issue... it MUST be fixed! > > CFS might be wrong or wasteful, but never unfair. > > I've not yet had time to look at

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread kbuild test robot
Hi Mike, [auto build test ERROR on v4.3-rc4 -- if it's inappropriate base, please ignore] config: mips-allyesconfig (attached as .config) reproduce: wget https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/wfg/lkp-tests.git/plain/sbin/make.cross -O ~/bin/make.cross chmod +x

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 07:01:42PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 03:22:49PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > > Ah, but now onward to interactivity... > > > > master, 8 groups of 1 (pert) vs desktop (mplayer > > BigBuckBunny-DivXPlusHD.mkv) > > PID USER PR NIVIRT

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 22:03 +0800, kbuild test robot wrote: > Hi Mike, Hi there pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey bot. Eeee Ahhh :) sched: disable task group wide utilization based weight on the desktop Task group wide utilization based weight may work well for servers, but it is horrible on the

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 03:22:49PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote: > Ah, but now onward to interactivity... > > master, 8 groups of 1 (pert) vs desktop (mplayer BigBuckBunny-DivXPlusHD.mkv) > PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ P COMMAND > 4068 root 20 0

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread paul . szabo
Dear Mike, You CCed me on this patch. Is that because you expect this to solve "my" problem also? You had some measurements of many oinks vs many perts or vs "desktop", but not many oinks vs 1 or 2 perts as per my "complaint". You also changed the subject line, so maybe this is all un-related.

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sun, 2015-10-11 at 07:14 +1100, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: > Dear Mike, > > You CCed me on this patch. Is that because you expect this to solve "my" > problem also? You had some measurements of many oinks vs many perts or > vs "desktop", but not many oinks vs 1 or 2 perts as per my

Re: [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 19:01 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > But the patch is most horrible.. :/ It completely destroys everything > group scheduling is supposed to be. Yeah, and it works great but... > What are these oink/pert things? Both spinners just with amusing names > to distinguish them?

[patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop

2015-10-10 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Thu, 2015-10-08 at 13:19 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 09:54:21PM +1100, paul.sz...@sydney.edu.au wrote: > > Good to see that you agree on the fairness issue... it MUST be fixed! > > CFS might be wrong or wasteful, but never unfair. > > I've not yet had time to look at