Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-14 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: > > the reason why I take the em28xx as hostage is, well I started with it > and I work with that company and I don't see a way how to implement > the latest devices without terrible hacks (and there are around 60 > devices supported only by the

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-14 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/14/07, Hans Verkuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 14 October 2007 12:40:35 Markus Rechberger wrote: > > On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 > > > "Markus Rechberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Please don't send

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-14 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Sunday 14 October 2007 12:40:35 Markus Rechberger wrote: > On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 > > "Markus Rechberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an > > additional

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-14 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 > "Markus Rechberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional > paragraph. > > > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-core.c |

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-14 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional paragraph. drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-core.c |1 -

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-14 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Sunday 14 October 2007 12:40:35 Markus Rechberger wrote: On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional paragraph.

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-14 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/14/07, Hans Verkuil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 14 October 2007 12:40:35 Markus Rechberger wrote: On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't send 900 line emails to which

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-14 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: the reason why I take the em28xx as hostage is, well I started with it and I work with that company and I don't see a way how to implement the latest devices without terrible hacks (and there are around 60 devices supported only by the current

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Markus Rechberger a écrit : > On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Markus Rechberger a écrit : >>> On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, since at least it supports the limited

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Marcel Siegert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Markus Rechberger schrieb: > > On 10/11/07, Marcel Siegert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Markus Rechberger schrieb: > >>> On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Markus Rechberger a écrit : > > On 10/11/07, Linus

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Marcel Siegert
Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Marcel Siegert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Pádraig Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aidan Thornton wrote: > > I looked at this recently, and I'm not sure the core em28xx code was > > really that different (at least, pre-userspace). Most of the core > > changes seemed to be related to Markus' driver having (semi-working) > >

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Pádraig Brady
Aidan Thornton wrote: > I looked at this recently, and I'm not sure the core em28xx code was > really that different (at least, pre-userspace). Most of the core > changes seemed to be related to Markus' driver having (semi-working) > VBI support. I haven't tried this recently; I disabled it a

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Marcel Siegert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Markus Rechberger schrieb: > > On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Markus Rechberger a écrit : > >>> On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Aidan Thornton
On 10/11/07, Markus Rechberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/11/07, Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/10/2007 07:24 PM, Markus Rechberger wrote: > > > > > > To point to more changes within the available driver which hasn't been > > merged > > > within the last 1 1/2 years: > >

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Marcel Siegert
Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, since at least it supports the limited set of hardware

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 07:09:47AM +0200, Markus Rechberger wrote: > It makes no sense to keep the kernel driver uptodate, it would make > more sense to support the latest driver (which some people are > supporting). > I just had a look at the driver downloads it makes around 600 >

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Markus Rechberger a écrit : > > On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, > >> since at least it supports the limited set of hardware on its own. > >

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Markus Rechberger a écrit : > On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, >> since at least it supports the limited set of hardware on its own. > > it does not since it's broken and feature limited. On the

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, since at least it supports the limited set of hardware on its own. it does not since it's broken and feature limited. On the other side I

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, since at least it supports the limited set of hardware on its own. it does not

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 07:09:47AM +0200, Markus Rechberger wrote: It makes no sense to keep the kernel driver uptodate, it would make more sense to support the latest driver (which some people are supporting). I just had a look at the driver downloads it makes around 600 downloads for

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Marcel Siegert
Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, since at least it supports the limited set of hardware on

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Aidan Thornton
On 10/11/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/07, Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/2007 07:24 PM, Markus Rechberger wrote: To point to more changes within the available driver which hasn't been merged within the last 1 1/2 years: * it supports non

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people,

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Pádraig Brady
Aidan Thornton wrote: I looked at this recently, and I'm not sure the core em28xx code was really that different (at least, pre-userspace). Most of the core changes seemed to be related to Markus' driver having (semi-working) VBI support. I haven't tried this recently; I disabled it a while

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Pádraig Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aidan Thornton wrote: I looked at this recently, and I'm not sure the core em28xx code was really that different (at least, pre-userspace). Most of the core changes seemed to be related to Markus' driver having (semi-working) VBI

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Marcel Siegert
Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Marcel Siegert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger schrieb: On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-11 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Aurelien Jarno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger a écrit : On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, the old and decrepit em28xx driver seems more useful to people, since at least it supports the limited set of hardware on

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:09:47 +0200 "Markus Rechberger" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 > > > "Markus Rechberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Andrew Morton
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:09:47 +0200 "Markus Rechberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 > > "Markus Rechberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 > "Markus Rechberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional > paragraph. > > > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-core.c |

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/10/2007 07:24 PM, Markus Rechberger wrote: > > > > To point to more changes within the available driver which hasn't been > merged > > within the last 1 1/2 years: > > * it supports non usbaudio based video devices. > > * has support for

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: > > > > the chances of the em28xx are not accepted from my side since the latest > code > > which supports way more hardware is offtree for various reasons. > > Well, I've talked to various

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: > > the chances of the em28xx are not accepted from my side since the latest code > which supports way more hardware is offtree for various reasons. Well, I've talked to various people, and none of the main kernel people end up being at all

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Andrew Morton
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 "Markus Rechberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional paragraph. > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-core.c |1 - > > drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-input.c |

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 10/10/2007 07:24 PM, Markus Rechberger wrote: > > To point to more changes within the available driver which hasn't been merged > within the last 1 1/2 years: > * it supports non usbaudio based video devices. > * has support for dvb-t/atsc > * allows multiple device node access in case of

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Markus Rechberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/10/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Linus, > > > > Please pull from: > > > ssh://master.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mchehab/v4l-dvb.git > > master > > > > We have 300+ patches this time, covering lots

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/10/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Linus, > > Please pull from: > ssh://master.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mchehab/v4l-dvb.git > master > > We have 300+ patches this time, covering lots of drivers improvements and > fixes. > > Also, there are several

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/10/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linus, Please pull from: ssh://master.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mchehab/v4l-dvb.git master We have 300+ patches this time, covering lots of drivers improvements and fixes. Also, there are several core changes:

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On 10/10/2007 07:24 PM, Markus Rechberger wrote: To point to more changes within the available driver which hasn't been merged within the last 1 1/2 years: * it supports non usbaudio based video devices. * has support for dvb-t/atsc * allows multiple device node access in case of analogue

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Andrew Morton
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional paragraph. drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-core.c |1 - drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-input.c |1 -

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: the chances of the em28xx are not accepted from my side since the latest code which supports way more hardware is offtree for various reasons. Well, I've talked to various people, and none of the main kernel people end up being at all

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linus, Please pull from: ssh://master.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mchehab/v4l-dvb.git master We have 300+ patches this time, covering lots of drivers

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Markus Rechberger wrote: the chances of the em28xx are not accepted from my side since the latest code which supports way more hardware is offtree for various reasons. Well, I've talked to various people, and

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/2007 07:24 PM, Markus Rechberger wrote: To point to more changes within the available driver which hasn't been merged within the last 1 1/2 years: * it supports non usbaudio based video devices. * has support for dvb-t/atsc

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional paragraph. drivers/media/video/em28xx/em28xx-core.c |1 -

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Andrew Morton
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:09:47 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't send 900 line emails to which you have added only an additional

Re: [v4l-dvb-maintainer] [GIT PATCHES] V4L/DVB changes for 2.6.24

2007-10-10 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:09:47 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:00:39 +0200 Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't send 900