Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-16 Thread Martin Moerman
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:37:15AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > > > > Pete Wyckoff writes: > > > We're currently working on using both processors > > > of the Tigon in parallel. > > > > It is my understanding that on the Tigon2, the second

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-16 Thread Martin Moerman
Well nick, that is your choice. /Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Erm, that is going to be a problem. Crypto benifits more from open source > than any other market segment, and binary only drivers for linux are not > the way to go. I guess I need to

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-16 Thread Martin Moerman
Well nick, that is your choice. /Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erm, that is going to be a problem. Crypto benifits more from open source than any other market segment, and binary only drivers for linux are not the way to go. I guess I need to get

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-16 Thread Martin Moerman
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:37:15AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: Pete Wyckoff writes: We're currently working on using both processors of the Tigon in parallel. It is my understanding that on the Tigon2, the second processor is

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-15 Thread Pekka Pietikainen
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:37:15AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > > Pete Wyckoff writes: > > We're currently working on using both processors > > of the Tigon in parallel. > > It is my understanding that on the Tigon2, the second processor is > only for working around hw bugs in the DMA

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-15 Thread Pete Wyckoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > So are there any intresting changes one can make to the acenic? > > Like I said, there is an entire firmware developer kit, so the only > limit is your imagination and coding skills :-) I wrote a new firmware from scratch to offload most

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-15 Thread Alan Cox
> I've installed several thousand 3com cards of various ages and > types. I've had less than 20 bad cards. > Nick Seconded. 3Com stuff is overpriced but reliable. They have also (prior to this event) been very good at working with the Linux community, including digging out docs for old

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-15 Thread Alan Cox
I've installed several thousand 3com cards of various ages and types. I've had less than 20 bad cards. Nick Seconded. 3Com stuff is overpriced but reliable. They have also (prior to this event) been very good at working with the Linux community, including digging out docs for old MCA

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-15 Thread Pekka Pietikainen
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 08:37:15AM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: Pete Wyckoff writes: We're currently working on using both processors of the Tigon in parallel. It is my understanding that on the Tigon2, the second processor is only for working around hw bugs in the DMA controller of

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-15 Thread Pete Wyckoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So are there any intresting changes one can make to the acenic? Like I said, there is an entire firmware developer kit, so the only limit is your imagination and coding skills :-) I wrote a new firmware from scratch to offload most of a

[OT] Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Brent D. Norris
Insteresting that this thread fell into this. I just had one of those cards that came across my desk phreak out. It was 2 days old and placed in a win2k server. Last night it started dumping errors about firmware and bad microcde. Have yet to test it out on another machine, but I beleive the

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread nick
I've installed several thousand 3com cards of various ages and types. I've had less than 20 bad cards. Nick On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Erm, that is going to be a problem. Crypto benifits more from open source > >

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Dr. Kelsey Hudson
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Kip Macy wrote: > As I mentioned previously IP heavy is a euphemism for commodity. ...and 3Com is notoriuos for putting out commodity, cheesy hardware. Kelsey Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer Compendium Technologies,

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Dr. Kelsey Hudson
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Erm, that is going to be a problem. Crypto benifits more from open source > than any other market segment, and binary only drivers for linux are not > the way to go. I guess I need to get rid of my 5-10 3cr990s and replace > them with someone

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Kip Macy
So it would seem. Here is the polite message I received in response my inquiry regarding the crypto interface to the card: > > > Thank you for your inquiry. We do not offer the > technical spec;s for the IPSec > features of this NIC, due to the intellectual > property-heavy nature of this >

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread nick
Erm, that is going to be a problem. Crypto benifits more from open source than any other market segment, and binary only drivers for linux are not the way to go. I guess I need to get rid of my 5-10 3cr990s and replace them with someone else's product? Nick On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Kip

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Kip Macy
IPsec support will be binary only. -Kip On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So what is the truth to the rumors 3com was throwing around about the > "linux driver with ipsec support"? > Nick > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Martin Moerman wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Jun

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread nick
So what is the truth to the rumors 3com was throwing around about the "linux driver with ipsec support"? Nick On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Martin Moerman wrote: > > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Brent D. Norris wrote: > > > > Now, if the NIC were to integrate with OpenSSL and offload some of THAT >

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Martin Moerman
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Brent D. Norris wrote: > > Now, if the NIC were to integrate with OpenSSL and offload some of THAT > > donkey work... Just offloading DES isn't terribly useful, as Pavel says: > > apart from anything else, DES is a bit elderly now - SSH using 3DES or > > Blowfish etc...

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Brent D. Norris
> Now, if the NIC were to integrate with OpenSSL and offload some of THAT > donkey work... Just offloading DES isn't terribly useful, as Pavel says: > apart from anything else, DES is a bit elderly now - SSH using 3DES or > Blowfish etc... How dedicated is this card? Could it be used to offload >

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Brent D. Norris
Now, if the NIC were to integrate with OpenSSL and offload some of THAT donkey work... Just offloading DES isn't terribly useful, as Pavel says: apart from anything else, DES is a bit elderly now - SSH using 3DES or Blowfish etc... How dedicated is this card? Could it be used to offload

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Martin Moerman
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Brent D. Norris wrote: Now, if the NIC were to integrate with OpenSSL and offload some of THAT donkey work... Just offloading DES isn't terribly useful, as Pavel says: apart from anything else, DES is a bit elderly now - SSH using 3DES or Blowfish etc... How

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread nick
So what is the truth to the rumors 3com was throwing around about the linux driver with ipsec support? Nick On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Martin Moerman wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Brent D. Norris wrote: Now, if the NIC were to integrate with OpenSSL and offload some of THAT donkey

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Kip Macy
IPsec support will be binary only. -Kip On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what is the truth to the rumors 3com was throwing around about the linux driver with ipsec support? Nick On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Martin Moerman wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Brent D.

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread nick
Erm, that is going to be a problem. Crypto benifits more from open source than any other market segment, and binary only drivers for linux are not the way to go. I guess I need to get rid of my 5-10 3cr990s and replace them with someone else's product? Nick On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Kip

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Kip Macy
So it would seem. Here is the polite message I received in response my inquiry regarding the crypto interface to the card: Thank you for your inquiry. We do not offer the technical spec;s for the IPSec features of this NIC, due to the intellectual property-heavy nature of this product.

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Dr. Kelsey Hudson
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erm, that is going to be a problem. Crypto benifits more from open source than any other market segment, and binary only drivers for linux are not the way to go. I guess I need to get rid of my 5-10 3cr990s and replace them with someone else's

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Dr. Kelsey Hudson
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Kip Macy wrote: As I mentioned previously IP heavy is a euphemism for commodity. ...and 3Com is notoriuos for putting out commodity, cheesy hardware. Kelsey Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer Compendium Technologies,

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread nick
I've installed several thousand 3com cards of various ages and types. I've had less than 20 bad cards. Nick On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erm, that is going to be a problem. Crypto benifits more from open source than

[OT] Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-14 Thread Brent D. Norris
Insteresting that this thread fell into this. I just had one of those cards that came across my desk phreak out. It was 2 days old and placed in a win2k server. Last night it started dumping errors about firmware and bad microcde. Have yet to test it out on another machine, but I beleive the

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > I just had one of the "3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor" > > float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux kernel uses the > > 3xp processor for its encryption offloading and such. According to the > > hype it does

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-13 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > I just had one of the "3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor" > float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux kernel uses the > 3xp processor for its encryption offloading and such. According to the > hype it does DES without using the CPU, does linux take advantage

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-13 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! I just had one of the 3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux kernel uses the 3xp processor for its encryption offloading and such. According to the hype it does DES without using the CPU, does linux take advantage of

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Pavel Machek wrote: Hi! I just had one of the 3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux kernel uses the 3xp processor for its encryption offloading and such. According to the hype it does DES without

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Brent D. Norris
Thanks to Kip for clarifying why Linux doesn't use this feature, but now I wonder why you beleive this? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > hype it does DES without using the CPU, does linux take advantage of that? > > no, as far as I've heard. and I wouldn't expect it to either. > further, it's

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Kip Macy
I think that they are relatively friendly. However, if they publish the interface to their card another company could come along with a card with the same functionality and take advantage of pre-existing drivers and undercut their price, thus taking away their margins. At least that is the

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Brent D. Norris
I thought 3com was pretty friendly to the Linux Community, was that a misconception? > It can't because 3com hasn't implemented in the driver and they won't > publish the interface. > -Kip > Brent Executive Advisor -- WKU-Linux - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Kip Macy
It can't because 3com hasn't implemented in the driver and they won't publish the interface. -Kip On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Brent D. Norris wrote: > I just had one of the "3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor" > float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux

3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Brent D. Norris
I just had one of the "3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor" float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux kernel uses the 3xp processor for its encryption offloading and such. According to the hype it does DES without using the CPU, does linux take advantage of that?

3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Brent D. Norris
I just had one of the 3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux kernel uses the 3xp processor for its encryption offloading and such. According to the hype it does DES without using the CPU, does linux take advantage of that?

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Kip Macy
It can't because 3com hasn't implemented in the driver and they won't publish the interface. -Kip On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Brent D. Norris wrote: I just had one of the 3com Etherlink 10/100 PCI NIC with 3XP processor float accross my desk, I was wondering how much the linux kernel

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Brent D. Norris
I thought 3com was pretty friendly to the Linux Community, was that a misconception? It can't because 3com hasn't implemented in the driver and they won't publish the interface. -Kip Brent Executive Advisor -- WKU-Linux - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Kip Macy
I think that they are relatively friendly. However, if they publish the interface to their card another company could come along with a card with the same functionality and take advantage of pre-existing drivers and undercut their price, thus taking away their margins. At least that is the

Re: 3com Driver and the 3XP Processor

2001-06-11 Thread Brent D. Norris
Thanks to Kip for clarifying why Linux doesn't use this feature, but now I wonder why you beleive this? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hype it does DES without using the CPU, does linux take advantage of that? no, as far as I've heard. and I wouldn't expect it to either. further, it's highly