Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-08 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Friday 08 February 2008 06:53:13 Pavel Machek wrote: > I believe selct is the way to go here. What do acer-wmi handle? > Additional buttons? Leds? Temperatures? Fan states? Enabling wireless, bluetooth and 3G; and exposing the mail LED and backlight. tc1100-wmi handles wireless and the jog

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-08 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Friday 08 February 2008 06:53:13 Pavel Machek wrote: I believe selct is the way to go here. What do acer-wmi handle? Additional buttons? Leds? Temperatures? Fan states? Enabling wireless, bluetooth and 3G; and exposing the mail LED and backlight. tc1100-wmi handles wireless and the jog

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: > > While I'm not trying to set you up for a firing squad, if you can show > > that the only use this driver has is as underlying support for Acer/HP > > xyz drivers, > > Certainly at the moment, this is the only real use it has (and the

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Len Brown
On Thursday 07 February 2008 21:02, Carlos Corbacho wrote: > On Friday 08 February 2008 01:38:01 Ray Lee wrote: > > That's clear to me (whereas the original wasn't), though I would > > still argue for this driver being select'ed by the drivers that > > require it. As you note, other laptop

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Len Brown
good description, Carlos. applied. thanks, -Len On Thursday 07 February 2008 20:19, Carlos Corbacho wrote: > On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2008 3:51 PM, Carlos Corbacho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: > > >

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Friday 08 February 2008 01:38:01 Ray Lee wrote: > That's clear to me (whereas the original wasn't), though I would > still argue for this driver being select'ed by the drivers that > require it. As you note, other laptop specific drivers do so, and > Linus has come down in favor of that as

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Ray Lee
On Feb 7, 2008 5:19 PM, Carlos Corbacho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: > > On Feb 7, 2008 3:51 PM, Carlos Corbacho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: > > > > Do you have list of hardware/platforms

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: > On Feb 7, 2008 3:51 PM, Carlos Corbacho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: > > > Do you have list of hardware/platforms that require this feature to > > > get the hardware to work? (acer abc123,

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: > While I'm not trying to set you up for a firing squad, if you can show > that the only use this driver has is as underlying support for Acer/HP > xyz drivers, Certainly at the moment, this is the only real use it has (and the only reason I

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Ray Lee
On Feb 7, 2008 3:51 PM, Carlos Corbacho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: > > Do you have list of hardware/platforms that require this feature to > > get the hardware to work? (acer abc123, tcm1100 xyz) > > I have a very long list of Acer laptops

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: > Do you have list of hardware/platforms that require this feature to > get the hardware to work? (acer abc123, tcm1100 xyz) I have a very long list of Acer laptops that are supported - which is far too long, and changes on far too much of a

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Ray Lee
On Feb 7, 2008 3:18 PM, Carlos Corbacho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for the Kconfig - I'm open to suggestions. While the kconfig text is supposed to say 'what' something is, the more valuable piece of information it provides is *why* one would want to enable it. Do you have list of

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Thursday 07 February 2008 22:34:55 Pavel Machek wrote: > +3) What is the ACPI-WMI mapper > + > +The Linux ACPI-WMI driver is the implementation of this mapper for Linux. > > Yes, please. This needs translation into plain english. In plain English? ACPI-WMI is a nasty hack/ abuse of ACPI by

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Pavel Machek
On Thu 2008-02-07 17:27:38, Len Brown wrote: > On Thursday 07 February 2008 16:47, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > See? It even has completely useless help text. > > > > Does WMI stand for Windows Management Instrumentation? It is some > > server management feature? What is it good for? > > Thank

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Len Brown
On Thursday 07 February 2008 16:47, Pavel Machek wrote: > > See? It even has completely useless help text. > > Does WMI stand for Windows Management Instrumentation? It is some > server management feature? What is it good for? Thank you for the feedback, Pavel. There is an additional patch

ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Pavel Machek
See? It even has completely useless help text. Does WMI stand for Windows Management Instrumentation? It is some server management feature? What is it good for? Pavel WMI (EXPERIMENTAL) (ACPI_WMI) [N/m/y/?] (NEW) ? This driver

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Pavel Machek
On Thu 2008-02-07 17:27:38, Len Brown wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2008 16:47, Pavel Machek wrote: See? It even has completely useless help text. Does WMI stand for Windows Management Instrumentation? It is some server management feature? What is it good for? Thank you for the

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Thursday 07 February 2008 22:34:55 Pavel Machek wrote: +3) What is the ACPI-WMI mapper + +The Linux ACPI-WMI driver is the implementation of this mapper for Linux. Yes, please. This needs translation into plain english. In plain English? ACPI-WMI is a nasty hack/ abuse of ACPI by

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Len Brown
On Thursday 07 February 2008 16:47, Pavel Machek wrote: See? It even has completely useless help text. Does WMI stand for Windows Management Instrumentation? It is some server management feature? What is it good for? Thank you for the feedback, Pavel. There is an additional patch which

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Ray Lee
On Feb 7, 2008 3:18 PM, Carlos Corbacho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the Kconfig - I'm open to suggestions. While the kconfig text is supposed to say 'what' something is, the more valuable piece of information it provides is *why* one would want to enable it. Do you have list of

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: Do you have list of hardware/platforms that require this feature to get the hardware to work? (acer abc123, tcm1100 xyz) I have a very long list of Acer laptops that are supported - which is far too long, and changes on far too much of a

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Ray Lee
On Feb 7, 2008 3:51 PM, Carlos Corbacho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: Do you have list of hardware/platforms that require this feature to get the hardware to work? (acer abc123, tcm1100 xyz) I have a very long list of Acer laptops that are

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: While I'm not trying to set you up for a firing squad, if you can show that the only use this driver has is as underlying support for Acer/HP xyz drivers, Certainly at the moment, this is the only real use it has (and the only reason I spent

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 3:51 PM, Carlos Corbacho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: Do you have list of hardware/platforms that require this feature to get the hardware to work? (acer abc123, tcm1100 xyz)

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Ray Lee
On Feb 7, 2008 5:19 PM, Carlos Corbacho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 3:51 PM, Carlos Corbacho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: Do you have list of hardware/platforms that require

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Carlos Corbacho
On Friday 08 February 2008 01:38:01 Ray Lee wrote: nod That's clear to me (whereas the original wasn't), though I would still argue for this driver being select'ed by the drivers that require it. As you note, other laptop specific drivers do so, and Linus has come down in favor of that as well

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Len Brown
good description, Carlos. applied. thanks, -Len On Thursday 07 February 2008 20:19, Carlos Corbacho wrote: On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 3:51 PM, Carlos Corbacho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2008 23:33:54 Ray Lee wrote: Do you

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Len Brown
On Thursday 07 February 2008 21:02, Carlos Corbacho wrote: On Friday 08 February 2008 01:38:01 Ray Lee wrote: nod That's clear to me (whereas the original wasn't), though I would still argue for this driver being select'ed by the drivers that require it. As you note, other laptop specific

Re: ACPI_WMI: worst config description of all times

2008-02-07 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! On Friday 08 February 2008 00:12:24 Ray Lee wrote: While I'm not trying to set you up for a firing squad, if you can show that the only use this driver has is as underlying support for Acer/HP xyz drivers, Certainly at the moment, this is the only real use it has (and the only