Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-07-01 Thread Pierre Etchemaite
On 28-Jun-2001 Tim Moore wrote: >> (I wrote) >> Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot >> when using PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. >> >> Disabling MMX optimizations in this software would "solve" the >> problem. Another solution found on the web

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-28 Thread Tim Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of >the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). > > I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, >Sound

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-28 Thread Tim Moore
> Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot when using > PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. > > Disabling MMX optimizations in this software would "solve" the problem. Another > solution found on the web (sorry, I don't have the URL at hand) is to add two

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-28 Thread Pierre Etchemaite
Le 26-Jun-2001, Alex Deucher écrivait : > What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use > athlon optimizations. Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot when using PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. Disabling MMX optimizations in

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-28 Thread Tim Moore
Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot when using PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. Disabling MMX optimizations in this software would solve the problem. Another solution found on the web (sorry, I don't have the URL at hand) is to add two or

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-28 Thread Tim Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, Sound card,

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-28 Thread Pierre Etchemaite
Le 26-Jun-2001, Alex Deucher écrivait : What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use athlon optimizations. Some ASUS boards (mostly P3B-F) would either freeze or self reboot when using PhotoShop 5. Everything else would run perfectly. Disabling MMX optimizations in

Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-27 Thread Luigi Genoni
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of >the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I would have bet that power supply was erogating elettricity with a

Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-27 Thread joeja
Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, Sound card, video, modem, NIC, scsi card)

Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-27 Thread joeja
Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I also had my mb loaded at the time (scsi cd-rw, cdrom, internal zip, floppy, 1 hd, Sound card, video, modem, NIC, scsi card)

Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-27 Thread Luigi Genoni
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well considering the other night the power supply went dead, I think that is part of the problem. It is brand new, and I am being sent another one (free of course). I would have bet that power supply was erogating elettricity with a discontinous

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't > actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is > some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon > optimisation if you

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
> What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use > athlon optimizations. I'm not sure how much of a speed improvement they That fits the pattern beautifully. > provide, but everything's fine with i686, so I can't complain, besides I > doubt I can return the board at this

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alex Deucher
What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use athlon optimizations. I'm not sure how much of a speed improvement they provide, but everything's fine with i686, so I can't complain, besides I doubt I can return the board at this point anyway. BTW, which would be better with

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
> I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat > 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I > assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's > athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a > while

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alex Deucher
I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a while back on the

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
> With 2.2.x Kernel my System runs stable, but when i'm using whatever 2.4.x kernel i >like, > i get the oopses and processcrashes (but only when i'm NOT root!) That bit is fascinating. Do you do different things as non root ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Thomas Foerster
Hi, > I went trought 8 Athlon, (latest 1300 Mhz 200Mhz FSB). > Usually those stability problems are related to power supply (it should > be at less 300 Watt). > If the power supply does not give enought Ampere, and the energy > is fluttuant, the Athlon cpu really suffers. I have a 400 Watt

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Luigi Genoni
I went trought 8 Athlon, (latest 1300 Mhz 200Mhz FSB). Usually those stability problems are related to power supply (it should be at less 300 Watt). If the power supply does not give enought Ampere, and the energy is fluttuant, the Athlon cpu really suffers. I usually do a little overvolt of

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Thomas Foerster
Hi, > as i've said before - i have the same problem too Me too > the memory is OK! - have run memtest86 for hours ... - no errors ... - > heatsink - CPU@45°C - Case @ 25°C > after changing the kernel compile to PentiumII (nearly) everything worked > fine I HAD a Asus K7M with a 650 MHz

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Thomas Kotzian
2.4.5ac16 doesn't work at all - random oopses .. ThomasK. - Original Message - From: "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Re: AMD thunderbird oops > > I just upgradede

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Thomas Foerster
Hi, as i've said before - i have the same problem too Me too the memory is OK! - have run memtest86 for hours ... - no errors ... - heatsink - CPU@45°C - Case @ 25°C after changing the kernel compile to PentiumII (nearly) everything worked fine I HAD a Asus K7M with a 650 MHz

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Luigi Genoni
I went trought 8 Athlon, (latest 1300 Mhz 200Mhz FSB). Usually those stability problems are related to power supply (it should be at less 300 Watt). If the power supply does not give enought Ampere, and the energy is fluttuant, the Athlon cpu really suffers. I usually do a little overvolt of

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Thomas Foerster
Hi, I went trought 8 Athlon, (latest 1300 Mhz 200Mhz FSB). Usually those stability problems are related to power supply (it should be at less 300 Watt). If the power supply does not give enought Ampere, and the energy is fluttuant, the Athlon cpu really suffers. I have a 400 Watt power

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
With 2.2.x Kernel my System runs stable, but when i'm using whatever 2.4.x kernel i like, i get the oopses and processcrashes (but only when i'm NOT root!) That bit is fascinating. Do you do different things as non root ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alex Deucher
I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a while back on the

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Thomas Kotzian
2.4.5ac16 doesn't work at all - random oopses .. ThomasK. - Original Message - From: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Re: AMD thunderbird oops I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use athlon optimizations. I'm not sure how much of a speed improvement they That fits the pattern beautifully. provide, but everything's fine with i686, so I can't complain, besides I doubt I can return the board at this

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alex Deucher
What's weird though is that it is rock solid as long as I don't use athlon optimizations. I'm not sure how much of a speed improvement they provide, but everything's fine with i686, so I can't complain, besides I doubt I can return the board at this point anyway. BTW, which would be better with

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: My current speculation is that the sdram setup on some of these boards can't actually take the full CPU spec caused by these hand tuned routines. There is some evidence to support that as several other boards only work with Athlon optimisation if you set

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-26 Thread Alan Cox
I get oopses too when I use kernels compiled for athlon on my redhat 7.1, athlon 850 system. runs rock solid when I compile for i686. I assumed the athlon optimizations in the kernel were broken, or gcc's athlon optimization was, as I seem to recall some discussion of this a while back on

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may > even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its > the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty > component somewhere if

Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Luigi Genoni
Have you considered to change your dimm at all? If they are bugged they should be under warranty. Luigi On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks, > I have a heat sink and it is huge about 2 inches, plus fan. Plus another 4" fan >in the case. (real nice case). > > I

Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread joeja
Thanks, I have a heat sink and it is huge about 2 inches, plus fan. Plus another 4" fan in the case. (real nice case). I think it is the memory, as yesterday my gcc was bombing with 'internel compiler error', which is usually a good mem tester. So I started setting mem=64m and

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Luigi Genoni
Works well for me, Athlon 1300 (200Mhz FSB). Did you check your ram? Luigi On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) >processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. > > It is oppsing left and right.

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Alexander V. Bilichenko
rom: "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: AMD thunderbird oops > > I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Alan Cox
> I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) >processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. > > It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but >keep getting these oopses.. > > I also get these same problems

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Alexander V. Bilichenko
: Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: AMD thunderbird oops I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Luigi Genoni
Works well for me, Athlon 1300 (200Mhz FSB). Did you check your ram? Luigi On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I

Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Luigi Genoni
Have you considered to change your dimm at all? If they are bugged they should be under warranty. Luigi On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I have a heat sink and it is huge about 2 inches, plus fan. Plus another 4 fan in the case. (real nice case). I think it

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Random oopses normally indicate faulty board cpu or ram (and the fault may even just be overheating or dimms not in the sockets cleanly). I doubt its the board design or model that is the problem, you probably jut have a faulty component somewhere if its

Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread Alan Cox
I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while

Re: Re: AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-25 Thread joeja
Thanks, I have a heat sink and it is huge about 2 inches, plus fan. Plus another 4 fan in the case. (real nice case). I think it is the memory, as yesterday my gcc was bombing with 'internel compiler error', which is usually a good mem tester. So I started setting mem=64m and things

AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-24 Thread joeja
I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying

AMD thunderbird oops

2001-06-24 Thread joeja
I just upgradede my system to an 1200Mhz AMD Athlon Thundirbird (266Mhz FSB) processor / 512Meg of RAM, and an Asus kt7a motherboard. It is oppsing left and right. I recompiled the kernel with Athelon as the CPU but keep getting these oopses.. I also get these same problems while trying