Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-29 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:22:13AM -0500, Steve Best wrote: > June 28, 2001: > > IBM is pleased to announce the v 1.0.0 release of the open source > Journaled File System (JFS), a high-performance, and scalable file > system for Linux. Great! I remember that awhile ago there were some case

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-29 Thread Martin Knoblauch
Hi, first of all congratulations for finishing the initial first release. Some questions, just out of curiosity: >* Fast recovery after a system crash or power outage > >* Journaling for file system integrity > >* Journaling of meta-data only > does this mean JSF/Linux always journals

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-29 Thread Martin Knoblauch
Hi, first of all congratulations for finishing the initial first release. Some questions, just out of curiosity: * Fast recovery after a system crash or power outage * Journaling for file system integrity * Journaling of meta-data only does this mean JSF/Linux always journals only the

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-29 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:22:13AM -0500, Steve Best wrote: June 28, 2001: IBM is pleased to announce the v 1.0.0 release of the open source Journaled File System (JFS), a high-performance, and scalable file system for Linux. Great! I remember that awhile ago there were some case issues

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Yaacov Akiba Slama
Steve Lord wrote: >>Hi, >> > >>So I only hope that the smart guys at SGI find a way to prepare the >>patches the way Linus loves because now the file >>"patch-2.4.5-xfs-1.0.1-core" (which contains the modifs to the kernel >>and not the new files) is about 174090 bytes which is a lot. >> >>YA

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Luigi Genoni
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, james rich wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Luigi Genoni wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Yaacov Akiba Slama wrote: > > > > > So it seems that even if JFS is less complete than XFS (no ACL, quotas > > > for instance), and even if it is less robust (I don't know if it is, I >

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread james rich
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Luigi Genoni wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Yaacov Akiba Slama wrote: > > > So it seems that even if JFS is less complete than XFS (no ACL, quotas > > for instance), and even if it is less robust (I don't know if it is, I > It is not less complete nor less robust, it's a

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Luigi Genoni
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Yaacov Akiba Slama wrote: > Hi, > From what I understand from Linus's mail to lkml, there is a difference > between JFS and XFS: > JFS doesn't require any modifications to existing code, its only an > addition. > XFS on the contrary is far more intrusive. > So it seems

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Lord
> Hi, > So I only hope that the smart guys at SGI find a way to prepare the > patches the way Linus loves because now the file > "patch-2.4.5-xfs-1.0.1-core" (which contains the modifs to the kernel > and not the new files) is about 174090 bytes which is a lot. > > YA > But that is not a

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
> JFS doesn't require any modifications to existing code, its only an > addition. It depends how clean the interface is. It is possible to avoid changing core code by writing your own clone of it - that isnt good and doesnt make people happy sometimes. > XFS on the contrary is far more

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Yaacov Akiba Slama
Hi, From what I understand from Linus's mail to lkml, there is a difference between JFS and XFS: JFS doesn't require any modifications to existing code, its only an addition. XFS on the contrary is far more intrusive. So it seems that even if JFS is less complete than XFS (no ACL, quotas for

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Kervin Pierre
Hello, Question. Are there plans to include JFS and XFS in the kernel? Both those projects have been declared stable by their development teams, and I'm guessing they can now be included as experimental, just as reiser has been. Just curious, -Kervin Steve Best wrote: > > June 28, 2001:

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Kervin Pierre
Hello, Question. Are there plans to include JFS and XFS in the kernel? Both those projects have been declared stable by their development teams, and I'm guessing they can now be included as experimental, just as reiser has been. Just curious, -Kervin Steve Best wrote: June 28, 2001:

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Yaacov Akiba Slama
Hi, From what I understand from Linus's mail to lkml, there is a difference between JFS and XFS: JFS doesn't require any modifications to existing code, its only an addition. XFS on the contrary is far more intrusive. So it seems that even if JFS is less complete than XFS (no ACL, quotas for

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Steve Lord
Hi, So I only hope that the smart guys at SGI find a way to prepare the patches the way Linus loves because now the file patch-2.4.5-xfs-1.0.1-core (which contains the modifs to the kernel and not the new files) is about 174090 bytes which is a lot. YA But that is not a patch

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Luigi Genoni
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Yaacov Akiba Slama wrote: Hi, From what I understand from Linus's mail to lkml, there is a difference between JFS and XFS: JFS doesn't require any modifications to existing code, its only an addition. XFS on the contrary is far more intrusive. So it seems that even

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread james rich
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Luigi Genoni wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Yaacov Akiba Slama wrote: So it seems that even if JFS is less complete than XFS (no ACL, quotas for instance), and even if it is less robust (I don't know if it is, I It is not less complete nor less robust, it's a different

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Luigi Genoni
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, james rich wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Luigi Genoni wrote: On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Yaacov Akiba Slama wrote: So it seems that even if JFS is less complete than XFS (no ACL, quotas for instance), and even if it is less robust (I don't know if it is, I It is not

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Yaacov Akiba Slama
Steve Lord wrote: Hi, So I only hope that the smart guys at SGI find a way to prepare the patches the way Linus loves because now the file patch-2.4.5-xfs-1.0.1-core (which contains the modifs to the kernel and not the new files) is about 174090 bytes which is a lot. YA But that is

Re: Announcing Journaled File System (JFS) release 1.0.0 available

2001-06-28 Thread Alan Cox
JFS doesn't require any modifications to existing code, its only an addition. It depends how clean the interface is. It is possible to avoid changing core code by writing your own clone of it - that isnt good and doesnt make people happy sometimes. XFS on the contrary is far more intrusive.