Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-20 Thread Adam Sampson
"Eric S. Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If there were already a library in ths stock Python distribution to > digest .Xdefaults files I might consider this. Perhaps I'll write > one. No, please don't! .Xdefaults files as loaded by xrdb can contain cpp directives which can depend on the

Re: CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-17 Thread Peter Samuelson
[John Cowan] > The whole point of CML2 is to make kernel configuration something > that Aunt Tillie (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) can do, and we > are all Aunt Tillies from time to time. That includes differing > standards of readability, Come on, that's absolutely a red herring. There a

CMLConfigurator skins (was: CML2 1.1.3 is available)

2001-04-17 Thread John Cowan
Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Other possibility: support only the 16 EGA colors by name. Excellent idea! > But if I do that, > some of the X colors are just *wrong* on standard gray background > (cyan is a good example). So let the user set the background color too. I find gray backgrounds a m

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-17 Thread Eric S. Raymond
John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If there were already a library in ths stock Python distribution to digest > > .Xdefaults files I might consider this. Perhaps I'll write one. But I'm > > not going to bulk up the CML2 code with this marginal feature. > > Then support a private mechanism if y

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-17 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:55:56 -0400 >From: Eric S. Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: james rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Subject: Re

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-17 Thread John Cowan
Eric S. Raymond scripsit: > That way lies featuritis, IMO. Only if you let it. > If there were already a library in ths stock Python distribution to digest > .Xdefaults files I might consider this. Perhaps I'll write one. But I'm > not going to bulk up the CML2 code with this marginal feature

Re: CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-17 Thread Olaf Titz
> > telling us the Tk library, which for 8 or 10 years has been pretty much > > *the* X toolkit/widget set for scripting, does not include an interface > > to X resources? Of course it does; in an idiosyncratic way (not directly using X resources) but it does use the X resource file syntax. > If

Re: CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-17 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:20:48PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Wait ... I thought you were just using Python bindings to Tk. Are you > > telling us the Tk library, which for 8 or 10 years has been pretty much > > *the* X toolkit/widget set for scriptin

Re: CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread Marko Kreen
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 05:42:23PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Release 1.1.3: First I must say that versions 1.1.2, 1.1.3 are much faster than previous, I really cannot say that CML2 is in some way unusable for me. Good work! > * Freeze color changed from cyan to blue. Erm. Yes, in

Re: CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wait ... I thought you were just using Python bindings to Tk. Are you > telling us the Tk library, which for 8 or 10 years has been pretty much > *the* X toolkit/widget set for scripting, does not include an interface > to X resources? If it does, it's not

Re: CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[esr] > If there were already a library in ths stock Python distribution to > digest .Xdefaults files I might consider this. Perhaps I'll write > one. But I'm not going to bulk up the CML2 code with this marginal > feature. Wait ... I thought you were just using Python bindings to Tk. Are you

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread Eric S. Raymond
james rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Instead, read the colors from the .Xdefaults system. > > Yes, truly this should be done. Sensible defaults should be used (and I > think we may be at that point) and then use .Xdefaults (.Xresources or > whatever) to allow site overrides. And I really do thin

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread james rich
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, John Cowan wrote: > Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > Release 1.1.3: > > * Freeze color changed from cyan to blue. > > Instead, read the colors from the .Xdefaults system. Yes, truly this should be done. Sensible defaults should be used (and I think we may be at that poin

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread Steven Cole
On Monday 16 April 2001 16:06, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Steven Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Whoops, I just tried out 1.1.3 using make xconfig, and now all the > > option labels are dark green, not just the ones set to y. > > That's because they're set in your .config, dude! Well, lets look at a

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Steven Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Whoops, I just tried out 1.1.3 using make xconfig, and now all the > option labels are dark green, not just the ones set to y. That's because they're set in your .config, dude! -- http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond See, when the GOVER

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread Steven Cole
On Monday 16 April 2001 15:42, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > CML2 NEWS > > The latest version is always available at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/cml2/ > > Release 1.1.3: > * Freeze color changed from cyan to blue. > * Tom Rini's network-configuration patches. > * Better detection of se

Re: [kbuild-devel] CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread John Cowan
Eric S. Raymond wrote: > CML2 NEWS > > The latest version is always available at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/cml2/ > > Release 1.1.3: > * Freeze color changed from cyan to blue. I suggest you stop dinking the colors. There will always be some colors, for so

CML2 1.1.3 is available

2001-04-16 Thread Eric S. Raymond
CML2 NEWS The latest version is always available at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/cml2/ Release 1.1.3: * Freeze color changed from cyan to blue. * Tom Rini's network-configuration patches. * Better detection of set variables to be colored gre