On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:29:54PM +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
>
> > Perhaps a more convincing argument may be that in embedded devices,
> > disk as well as memory and CPU power are _not_ cheap.
> >
> > The more resources Linux requires, the less
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Ralf Baechle wrote:
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:29:54PM +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
Perhaps a more convincing argument may be that in embedded devices,
disk as well as memory and CPU power are _not_ cheap.
The more resources Linux requires, the less are it's
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:29:54PM +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Perhaps a more convincing argument may be that in embedded devices,
> disk as well as memory and CPU power are _not_ cheap.
>
> The more resources Linux requires, the less are it's chances of being
> accepted as a viable
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:29:54PM +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote:
Perhaps a more convincing argument may be that in embedded devices,
disk as well as memory and CPU power are _not_ cheap.
The more resources Linux requires, the less are it's chances of being
accepted as a viable alternative in
Robert Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Die, 06 Feb 2001 you wrote:
> > But paring down the startup scripts is a good idea. For something like an embedded
> > device, you might even want to go with a custom init,
Plug: How about jinit (my init) ;-)
On Die, 06 Feb 2001 you wrote:
> But paring down the startup scripts is a good idea. For something like an embedded
> device, you might even want to go with a custom init,
Yes, I'm using busybox (see busybox.lineo.com). It's a multi-call binary that
contains a simplified init, a shell and a
> On Sam, 03 Feb 2001 you wrote:
> > Actually, most of that time is spent running bash/sleep 1. Startup
> > scripts tend to be poorly designed.
>
> Yes!
I'm not so sure. I'm using RedHat 6.2, and it seems the only time a startup script
calls sleep is when it gives you a chance to do
On Sam, 03 Feb 2001 you wrote:
> > Usually most of the startup time is spent by the BIOS doing
> > extensive self-test stuff and for firing up services (http,
> > inetd, sendmail, ...) that many embedded systems have little use
> > for.
>
> Actually, most of that time is spent running bash/sleep
Hi!
> > I built a embedded dvd/cdda/mp3 player based on linux, using a p200mmx
> > with 24mb with a bus of 75mhx, but it still takes about 20 seconds to boot,
> > I think that an embedded device (for home use) should boot in less than
> > 5 seconds, how could be possible with a slow p133? (I've
Hi!
I built a embedded dvd/cdda/mp3 player based on linux, using a p200mmx
with 24mb with a bus of 75mhx, but it still takes about 20 seconds to boot,
I think that an embedded device (for home use) should boot in less than
5 seconds, how could be possible with a slow p133? (I've also
On Sam, 03 Feb 2001 you wrote:
Usually most of the startup time is spent by the BIOS doing
extensive self-test stuff and for firing up services (http,
inetd, sendmail, ...) that many embedded systems have little use
for.
Actually, most of that time is spent running bash/sleep 1.
On Sam, 03 Feb 2001 you wrote:
Actually, most of that time is spent running bash/sleep 1. Startup
scripts tend to be poorly designed.
Yes!
I'm not so sure. I'm using RedHat 6.2, and it seems the only time a startup script
calls sleep is when it gives you a chance to do interactive
On Die, 06 Feb 2001 you wrote:
But paring down the startup scripts is a good idea. For something like an embedded
device, you might even want to go with a custom init,
Yes, I'm using busybox (see busybox.lineo.com). It's a multi-call binary that
contains a simplified init, a shell and a host
Robert Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Die, 06 Feb 2001 you wrote:
But paring down the startup scripts is a good idea. For something like an embedded
device, you might even want to go with a custom init,
Plug: How about jinit (my init) ;-)
Hi!
> Everyone who says, disk is cheap, ought to donate me one.
> Everyone who says, memory is cheap, has to send me some.
>
> I'm still stuck with a P-133, 56 MB RAM (60-70 ns, some EDO,
> some FPM) and not only Linux but also W2K on a 2.1 and a 0.8 GB
> HDD.
>
> I
Hi!
Everyone who says, disk is cheap, ought to donate me one.
Everyone who says, memory is cheap, has to send me some.
I'm still stuck with a P-133, 56 MB RAM (60-70 ns, some EDO,
some FPM) and not only Linux but also W2K on a 2.1 and a 0.8 GB
HDD.
I accept donations in IDE and SCSI
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:12:47 +0100
> From: Robert Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Patrizio Bruno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Disk is cheap?
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Robert Kaiser wrote:
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:12:47 +0100
From: Robert Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Patrizio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disk is cheap?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrizio Bruno) writes:
I
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrizio Bruno) writes:
> I built a embedded dvd/cdda/mp3 player based on linux, using a p200mmx
> with 24mb with a bus of 75mhx, but it still takes about 20 seconds to boot,
> I think that an embedded device (for home use) should boot in
on 66mhz of bus and it takes almost 35 seconds to boot)
However, first or last old hardware will finish, and who wants to build
an embedded device should use high cost embedded hardware (high cost for me).
P.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Robert Kaiser wrote:
>
> > Everyone who says, disk is che
> Everyone who says, disk is cheap, ought to donate me one.
> Everyone who says, memory is cheap, has to send me some.
:-)
Perhaps a more convincing argument may be that in embedded devices,
disk as well as memory and CPU power are _not_ cheap.
The more resources Linux requires, th
Everyone who says, disk is cheap, ought to donate me one.
Everyone who says, memory is cheap, has to send me some.
:-)
Perhaps a more convincing argument may be that in embedded devices,
disk as well as memory and CPU power are _not_ cheap.
The more resources Linux requires, the less
on 66mhz of bus and it takes almost 35 seconds to boot)
However, first or last old hardware will finish, and who wants to build
an embedded device should use high cost embedded hardware (high cost for me).
P.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Robert Kaiser wrote:
Everyone who says, disk is cheap, ought
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrizio Bruno) writes:
I built a embedded dvd/cdda/mp3 player based on linux, using a p200mmx
with 24mb with a bus of 75mhx, but it still takes about 20 seconds to boot,
I think that an embedded device (for home use) should boot in less
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 06:58:22PM -, mirabilos wrote:
> I accept donations in IDE and SCSI, as well as parport devices.
I have a parport device (one of the few things left from my XT).
I can send it to you if you pay shipping.
--
John Lenton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Random fortune:
Saints
Everyone who says, disk is cheap, ought to donate me one.
Everyone who says, memory is cheap, has to send me some.
I'm still stuck with a P-133, 56 MB RAM (60-70 ns, some EDO,
some FPM) and not only Linux but also W2K on a 2.1 and a 0.8 GB
HDD.
I accept donations in IDE and SCSI, as well
Everyone who says, disk is cheap, ought to donate me one.
Everyone who says, memory is cheap, has to send me some.
I'm still stuck with a P-133, 56 MB RAM (60-70 ns, some EDO,
some FPM) and not only Linux but also W2K on a 2.1 and a 0.8 GB
HDD.
I accept donations in IDE and SCSI, as well
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 06:58:22PM -, mirabilos wrote:
I accept donations in IDE and SCSI, as well as parport devices.
I have a parport device (one of the few things left from my XT).
I can send it to you if you pay shipping.
--
John Lenton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Random fortune:
Saints
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