Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-15 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On January 15, 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is _not_ a regression. This has been occuring for ages here. A > > backport of this fix to 2.6.23 would be a very good thing - IMHO its > > something that should go into stable asap. > > the prob

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-15 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is _not_ a regression. This has been occuring for ages here. A > backport of this fix to 2.6.23 would be a very good thing - IMHO its > something that should go into stable asap. the problem is that this bug was only present in x86.git. I.e. n

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-15 Thread Matthew
> Ingo, > > This is _not_ a regression. This has been occuring for ages here. A > backport of this fix to 2.6.23 would be a > very good thing - IMHO its something that should go into stable asap. > > Thanks, > Ed Tomlinson > > > ++ Ingo, this probably has to do something with the random unmoti

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-14 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On January 14, 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > FYI, latest x86.git should have this fix included. So if your box > > > still hangs there must be some other bug lurking as well. > > > > > > the fix from Roland ?: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/11/108 > > h

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FYI, latest x86.git should have this fix included. So if your box > > still hangs there must be some other bug lurking as well. > > > the fix from Roland ?: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/11/108 > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4719206.html#4719206 (

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-14 Thread Matthew
> > FYI, latest x86.git should have this fix included. So if your box still > hangs there must be some other bug lurking as well. the fix from Roland ?: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/11/108 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4719206.html#4719206 (+ following posts) works like a charm :) wine-pro

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - if yes, does booting with "nmi_watchdog=2 idle=poll" give you a > >> working NMI watchdog? (working NMI watchdog means the NMI counts > >> increase for all cores in /proc/interrupts). > > > booting with the above gives me an incrementing NMI

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-14 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just managed to reproduce the bug in simulation. I believe we should > > be able to resolve this. > > That's great news! Keep up the good work :) FYI, latest x86.git should have this fix included. So if your box still hangs there must be some other b

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Ed Tomlinson
>> - if yes, does booting with "nmi_watchdog=2 idle=poll" give you a >> working NMI watchdog? (working NMI watchdog means the NMI counts >> increase for all cores in /proc/interrupts). > booting with the above gives me an incrementing NMI counter in > /proc/interrupts Ingo, Is there anyth

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Zan Lynx
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 13:43 +0100, Matthew wrote: > it's a little tricky to reproduce it: > I tried it with root-account: firefox-bin, thunderbird-bin wouldn't trigger > user-account (with used account-directory of both apps): > thunderbird-bin triggers it more reliably > probably it has to do wi

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Matthew
> I just managed to reproduce the bug in simulation. I believe we should > be able to resolve this. That's great news! Keep up the good work :) I hope that you guys'll be able to do so since it (indirectly) more or less leads to data corruption (at least with thunderbird-bin & firefox-bin -> bot

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Matthew wrote: That's fine, but that was collected with the vmlinux image you sent me, right? no, but now it is: http://kerneloftruth.neucode.org/other/crash_ia32_64/not_tainted/latest/ (the other one was taken before I added/selected the demanded features) what puzzles me is that it doesn't

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Matthew
> > That's fine, but that was collected with the vmlinux image you sent me, > right? > no, but now it is: http://kerneloftruth.neucode.org/other/crash_ia32_64/not_tainted/latest/ (the other one was taken before I added/selected the demanded features) what puzzles me is that it doesn't say "tainte

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Matthew wrote: Do you have the error dump output to go along with this, too? no, unfortunately no kernel crash dump on disk ;( (I hope I understood it right, I'm pretty noobish concerning collection of error data ;) ) I only have the console-output of the hardlock in: http://kerneloftruth.neu

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Matthew
> Do you have the error dump output to go along with this, too? > no, unfortunately no kernel crash dump on disk ;( (I hope I understood it right, I'm pretty noobish concerning collection of error data ;) ) I only have the console-output of the hardlock in: http://kerneloftruth.neucode.org/other/

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Matthew wrote: If you *do* reproduce the problem that way, it would be extremely helpful if you could enable CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO and provide the vmlinux (not vmlinuz/bzImage) file that goes with the crash dump screenshot. I *did* reproduce it that way and enabled the above mentioned option and th

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Matthew
> If you *do* reproduce the problem that way, it would be extremely > helpful if you could enable CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO and provide the vmlinux > (not vmlinuz/bzImage) file that goes with the crash dump screenshot. I *did* reproduce it that way and enabled the above mentioned option and the CONFIG_DEB

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On January 10, 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Matthew is not alone with this problem. I have it too. Its not new > > here. Its been happening as long as I have had gentoo amd64 > > installed. It can be hard to reproduce but eventually, when 32 b

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Matthew
> > My kernel is _not_ tainted. [...] > this time my kernel isn't tainted either (comm: thunderbird-bin Not tainted; http://kerneloftruth.neucode.org/other/crash_ia32_64/not_tainted/moto_0041.jpg) but still hardlocks: http://kerneloftruth.neucode.org/other/crash_ia32_64/not_tainted/ > ok, good

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Ed Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew is not alone with this problem. I have it too. Its not new > here. Its been happening as long as I have had gentoo amd64 > installed. It can be hard to reproduce but eventually, when 32 bit > apps are used, my box bricks. There is nothin

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > this also happens with rc7-based kernels, btw > > > > hm, exactly what rc7 based kernel? Vanilla 2.6.24-rc7, built by you? > > Or any patches ontop of it? (x86.git perhaps?) > > see first post / mail (there are a few additional patches / trees > inclu

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On January 10, 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > this also happens with rc7-based kernels, btw > > hm, exactly what rc7 based kernel? Vanilla 2.6.24-rc7, built by you? Or > any patches ontop of it? (x86.git perhaps?) Matthew is not alone with this problem

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Matthew
> > > this also happens with rc7-based kernels, btw > > hm, exactly what rc7 based kernel? Vanilla 2.6.24-rc7, built by you? Or > any patches ontop of it? (x86.git perhaps?) see first post / mail (there are a few additional patches / trees included: badram, wireless, alsa, tuxonice, madwifi, reis

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this also happens with rc7-based kernels, btw hm, exactly what rc7 based kernel? Vanilla 2.6.24-rc7, built by you? Or any patches ontop of it? (x86.git perhaps?) Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in th

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Matthew
> really, that module does all sorts of nasty stuff when inserted (and > then removed), so just to make sure (because you are about to crash your > box again to take a picture), could you try to boot up without never > even once loading the nvidia module? and it still happens ;( I un-emerged nvidi

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Ingo Molnar
* Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been unable to reproduce your problem here, and I notice you have > > the proprietary, highly invasive and closed-source Nvidia driver > > installed in your kernel. > > > > Can you try using the "nv" or "vesa" (unaccelerated) Xorg drivers and > > re

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-10 Thread Matthew
> I have been unable to reproduce your problem here, and I notice you have > the proprietary, highly invasive and closed-source Nvidia driver > installed in your kernel. > > Can you try using the "nv" or "vesa" (unaccelerated) Xorg drivers and > reproduce the problem that way? > > If you *do* repro

Re: Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-08 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Matthew wrote: Hi everyone, sorry for the long delay - I first had to get home & set up my rig to reproduce this hardlock (repeatedly hardlocking / shutting down the laptop doesn't do too good to the new hdd ;) ) and fortunately I was successful :) sorry for the bad quality of the pics (they

Fwd: Fwd: laptop / computer hardlocks during execution of 32bit applications(binaries) on 64bit system (Gentoo)

2008-01-08 Thread Matthew
Hi everyone, sorry for the long delay - I first had to get home & set up my rig to reproduce this hardlock (repeatedly hardlocking / shutting down the laptop doesn't do too good to the new hdd ;) ) and fortunately I was successful :) sorry for the bad quality of the pics (they were taken with m