* Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> thanks. It shows the anomaly in action:
> So all the time references we have show that (no surprise here) 1
> second passed between the two samples. But sched_clock() shows a
> _large_ jump:
>
> .clock : 125652924079659272
>
* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:50:15PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Matt, could you run this for 1-2 minutes and send us the sched_debug.txt
> > output?
>
> http://selenic.com/sched_debug.txt.gz
thanks. It shows the anomaly in action:
now at
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:50:15PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Matt, could you run this for 1-2 minutes and send us the sched_debug.txt
output?
http://selenic.com/sched_debug.txt.gz
thanks. It shows the anomaly in action:
now at 365294215491977
* Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thanks. It shows the anomaly in action:
So all the time references we have show that (no surprise here) 1
second passed between the two samples. But sched_clock() shows a
_large_ jump:
.clock : 125652924079659272
.clock
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:50:15PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> Matt, could you run this for 1-2 minutes and send us the sched_debug.txt
> output?
http://selenic.com/sched_debug.txt.gz
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On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:08:06PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Matt, could you send me your .config too? Maybe i can reproduce it
> > with your config.
>
> ok, got it (off-list) and you seem to have the default HZ=250. Could you
> change it to
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:08:06PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt, could you send me your .config too? Maybe i can reproduce it
with your config.
ok, got it (off-list) and you seem to have the default HZ=250. Could you
change it to HZ=1000 -
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:50:15PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Matt, could you run this for 1-2 minutes and send us the sched_debug.txt
output?
http://selenic.com/sched_debug.txt.gz
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* Dmitry Adamushko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 05/06/07, Dmitry Adamushko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> now at 257428593818894 nsecs
> >>
> >> cpu: 0
> >> .nr_running: 3
> >> .raw_weighted_load : 2063
> >> .nr_switches : 242830075
> >> .nr_load_updates
* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:37:38PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:15PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > > Does this solve it for you?
> > >
> > > Nope.
* Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matt, could you send me your .config too? Maybe i can reproduce it
> with your config.
ok, got it (off-list) and you seem to have the default HZ=250. Could you
change it to HZ=1000 - does the delay get alot smaller?
if yes then this could be roughly
On 05/06/07, Dmitry Adamushko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> now at 257428593818894 nsecs
>
> cpu: 0
> .nr_running: 3
> .raw_weighted_load : 2063
> .nr_switches : 242830075
> .nr_load_updates : 30172063
> .nr_uninterruptible: 0
> .jiffies
On 05/06/07, Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> Click into the lguest window and trigger the delay.
I did:
while true; do sleep 1; cat /proc/sched_debug > sched_debug.txt; done
and got this, hopefully inside the window:
Sched Debug Version: v0.02
now at 257428593818894 nsecs
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:23:44AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ok, my transcoding just finished as I was writing this. So I've
> > reproduced the problem with this Python script that I had handy:
> >
> > memload.py:
> > #!/usr/bin/python
> > a
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:19:04AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > sleep_max: 57476665627
> > block_max: 18014060106626075
>
> hm, this block_max looks a bit suspect, it's 003fffb1359e341b. Does your
> box
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:37:38PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:15PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > > Does this solve it for you?
> >
> > Nope. Doesn't accept input and hogs the CPU with lots of system
Matt, could you send me your .config too? Maybe i can reproduce it
with your config.
Ingo
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* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, my transcoding just finished as I was writing this. So I've
> reproduced the problem with this Python script that I had handy:
>
> memload.py:
> #!/usr/bin/python
> a = "a" * 16 * 1024 * 1024
> while 1:
> b = a[1:] + "b"
> a = b[1:] + "c"
* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sleep_max: 57476665627
> block_max: 18014060106626075
hm, this block_max looks a bit suspect, it's 003fffb1359e341b. Does your
box make any use of cpufreq? (what CPU is it?)
> strace -f doesn't kill the
* Rusty Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This sounds like the waker process (nice 19) not getting a chance to
> run. You can hack around it for the moment by changing "nice(19)" in
> Documentation/lguest/lguest.c to something less aggressive.
even if the waker runs at nice+19, under CFS
* Rusty Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This sounds like the waker process (nice 19) not getting a chance to
run. You can hack around it for the moment by changing nice(19) in
Documentation/lguest/lguest.c to something less aggressive.
even if the waker runs at nice+19, under CFS (which
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sleep_max: 57476665627
block_max: 18014060106626075
hm, this block_max looks a bit suspect, it's 003fffb1359e341b. Does your
box make any use of cpufreq? (what CPU is it?)
strace -f doesn't kill the latency,
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, my transcoding just finished as I was writing this. So I've
reproduced the problem with this Python script that I had handy:
memload.py:
#!/usr/bin/python
a = a * 16 * 1024 * 1024
while 1:
b = a[1:] + b
a = b[1:] + c
i suspect the
Matt, could you send me your .config too? Maybe i can reproduce it
with your config.
Ingo
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On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:37:38PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:15PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
Does this solve it for you?
Nope. Doesn't accept input and hogs the CPU with lots of system time.
Dumb
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:19:04AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sleep_max: 57476665627
block_max: 18014060106626075
hm, this block_max looks a bit suspect, it's 003fffb1359e341b. Does your
box make any use
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:23:44AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, my transcoding just finished as I was writing this. So I've
reproduced the problem with this Python script that I had handy:
memload.py:
#!/usr/bin/python
a = a * 16 * 1024 *
On 05/06/07, Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Click into the lguest window and trigger the delay.
I did:
while true; do sleep 1; cat /proc/sched_debug sched_debug.txt; done
and got this, hopefully inside the window:
Sched Debug Version: v0.02
now at 257428593818894 nsecs
cpu:
On 05/06/07, Dmitry Adamushko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
now at 257428593818894 nsecs
cpu: 0
.nr_running: 3
.raw_weighted_load : 2063
.nr_switches : 242830075
.nr_load_updates : 30172063
.nr_uninterruptible: 0
.jiffies :
* Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt, could you send me your .config too? Maybe i can reproduce it
with your config.
ok, got it (off-list) and you seem to have the default HZ=250. Could you
change it to HZ=1000 - does the delay get alot smaller?
if yes then this could be roughly the
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:37:38PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:15PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
Does this solve it for you?
Nope. Doesn't accept input and
* Dmitry Adamushko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 05/06/07, Dmitry Adamushko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
now at 257428593818894 nsecs
cpu: 0
.nr_running: 3
.raw_weighted_load : 2063
.nr_switches : 242830075
.nr_load_updates : 30172063
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:15PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > Does this solve it for you?
>
> Nope. Doesn't accept input and hogs the CPU with lots of system time.
Dumb question: did you replace both the module and the launcher?
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:15PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> Does this solve it for you?
Nope. Doesn't accept input and hogs the CPU with lots of system time.
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On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:18:54AM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 12:37 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> > on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> > noticeable problems.
> >
> > If
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 10:19 +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 12:37 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> > on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> > noticeable problems.
> >
> > If I fire
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:02:00AM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 17:58 -0500, Olof Johansson wrote:
> >
> > Is this on hvc console? The hvc driver was recently modified to back off
> > it's timing interval when there's no input, the max value is 2 seconds.
> >
> > See
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:02:00 +1000 Rusty Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > See b791072ba3c3b29bab1890963bde52eb944a8451 for the changes in question.
>
> Hmm, I thought that was only supposed to happen for "interruptless"
> consoles?
The comment certainly says it only applies to polled
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 17:58 -0500, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:37:10PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> > on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> > noticeable problems.
> >
> >
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 12:37 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> noticeable problems.
>
> If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
> couple
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:37:10PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
> With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> noticeable problems.
>
> If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
>
* James Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> > perhaps lguest does something unusual when it idles? Does it fiddle
> > sched_clock() in any way?
>
> One of the lguest processes calls nice(2), which seems like a long
> shot, but also not impossibly
* Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I suggest you try this yourself [...]
>
> yep, i know how to use lguest and i'm already running it :) But i
> cannot trigger the problem, that's why i was curious about your
> host-side stats.
i can run a hundred CPU hogs on the host and the
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> perhaps lguest does something unusual when it idles? Does it fiddle
> sched_clock() in any way?
One of the lguest processes calls nice(2), which seems like a long shot,
but also not impossibly related. (Note that newer patches in the lguest
queue
* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I sent you everything but the stats for the CPU hog.
ok, thx.
> I suggest you try this yourself [...]
yep, i know how to use lguest and i'm already running it :) But i cannot
trigger the problem, that's why i was curious about your host-side
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:40:38PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > ah, so both the shell and the 'competing' CPU hog was running within
> > > the same lguest instance?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > The CPU hog is running in the host. A single instance of
* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ah, so both the shell and the 'competing' CPU hog was running within
> > the same lguest instance?
>
> No.
>
> The CPU hog is running in the host. A single instance of lguest using
> busybox is started in another shell. When it reaches a shell
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:12:29PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > btw., does this only happen with lguest, or with other idle shells
> > > too?
> >
> > Only noticed with lguest.
>
> ah, so both the shell and the 'competing' CPU hog was running
* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > btw., does this only happen with lguest, or with other idle shells
> > too?
>
> Only noticed with lguest.
ah, so both the shell and the 'competing' CPU hog was running within the
same lguest instance?
Ingo
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On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:11:51PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
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> * Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> > on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> > noticeable problems.
> >
> > If I fire
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:54:36PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> > on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> > noticeable problems.
> >
> > If I fire
* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> noticeable problems.
>
> If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
> couple moments,
* Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
> on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
> noticeable problems.
>
> If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
> couple moments,
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
couple moments, when I return to type something at the prompt, it can
take
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
couple moments, when I return to type something at the prompt, it can
take
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
couple moments, when I
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
couple moments, when I
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:54:36PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest and
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 08:11:51PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest and
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
btw., does this only happen with lguest, or with other idle shells
too?
Only noticed with lguest.
ah, so both the shell and the 'competing' CPU hog was running within the
same lguest instance?
Ingo
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On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:12:29PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
btw., does this only happen with lguest, or with other idle shells
too?
Only noticed with lguest.
ah, so both the shell and the 'competing' CPU hog was running within the
same
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ah, so both the shell and the 'competing' CPU hog was running within
the same lguest instance?
No.
The CPU hog is running in the host. A single instance of lguest using
busybox is started in another shell. When it reaches a shell prompt,
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:40:38PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ah, so both the shell and the 'competing' CPU hog was running within
the same lguest instance?
No.
The CPU hog is running in the host. A single instance of lguest using
* Matt Mackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I sent you everything but the stats for the CPU hog.
ok, thx.
I suggest you try this yourself [...]
yep, i know how to use lguest and i'm already running it :) But i cannot
trigger the problem, that's why i was curious about your host-side
stats.
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
perhaps lguest does something unusual when it idles? Does it fiddle
sched_clock() in any way?
One of the lguest processes calls nice(2), which seems like a long shot,
but also not impossibly related. (Note that newer patches in the lguest
queue remove
* Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suggest you try this yourself [...]
yep, i know how to use lguest and i'm already running it :) But i
cannot trigger the problem, that's why i was curious about your
host-side stats.
i can run a hundred CPU hogs on the host and the lguest
* James Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
perhaps lguest does something unusual when it idles? Does it fiddle
sched_clock() in any way?
One of the lguest processes calls nice(2), which seems like a long
shot, but also not impossibly related.
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:37:10PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
couple
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 12:37 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest and leave it sitting at a shell prompt for a
couple moments,
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:02:00 +1000 Rusty Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See b791072ba3c3b29bab1890963bde52eb944a8451 for the changes in question.
Hmm, I thought that was only supposed to happen for interruptless
consoles?
The comment certainly says it only applies to polled mode.
--
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 17:58 -0500, Olof Johansson wrote:
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:37:10PM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:02:00AM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 17:58 -0500, Olof Johansson wrote:
Is this on hvc console? The hvc driver was recently modified to back off
it's timing interval when there's no input, the max value is 2 seconds.
See
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 10:19 +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 12:37 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up lguest
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:18:54AM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 12:37 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
With 2.6.22-rc3-mm1, I've got a long-running video transcoding going
on. In other windows, I'm compiling, reading email, etc. with no
noticeable problems.
If I fire up
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:15PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
Does this solve it for you?
Nope. Doesn't accept input and hogs the CPU with lots of system time.
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On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Matt Mackall wrote:
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:15PM +1000, Rusty Russell wrote:
Does this solve it for you?
Nope. Doesn't accept input and hogs the CPU with lots of system time.
Dumb question: did you replace both the module and the launcher?
Rusty.
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