On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:08:53PM +0200, Eric Piel wrote:
> 12.07.2005 20:38, Jim Nance wrote/a écrit:
> >
> >
> >Perhaps a little history would help. In the beginning, the kernel was
> >written with the intention that userland would be including the headers.
> >And libc did include the kernel
12.07.2005 20:38, Jim Nance wrote/a écrit:
Perhaps a little history would help. In the beginning, the kernel was
written with the intention that userland would be including the headers.
And libc did include the kernel headers.
This did provide an effective way to get new kernel features to
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:26:53AM -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
> I must admit a little confusion here. Clearly, kernel header files are
> used at the user level. The kernel and user level applications must share
> definitions for a great many things.
Perhaps a little history would help. In
On Tuesday 12 Jul 2005 14:36, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 09:26 -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
> > Horst von Brand wrote:
> > >>I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in
> > >> kernel development. I am specifically referring to changes being made
> > >>
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 09:26 -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
> Horst von Brand wrote:
>
> >>I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
> >>development. I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
> >>headers that break compatibility at the userland
Horst von Brand wrote:
I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
development. I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
headers that break compatibility at the userland level, where __KERNEL__
isn't #define'd.
The policy with respect to
Horst von Brand wrote:
I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
development. I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
headers that break compatibility at the userland level, where __KERNEL__
isn't #define'd.
The policy with respect to
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 09:26 -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
Horst von Brand wrote:
I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
development. I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
headers that break compatibility at the userland level, where
On Tuesday 12 Jul 2005 14:36, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 09:26 -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
Horst von Brand wrote:
I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in
kernel development. I am specifically referring to changes being made
to kernel
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:26:53AM -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
I must admit a little confusion here. Clearly, kernel header files are
used at the user level. The kernel and user level applications must share
definitions for a great many things.
Perhaps a little history would help. In the
12.07.2005 20:38, Jim Nance wrote/a écrit:
Perhaps a little history would help. In the beginning, the kernel was
written with the intention that userland would be including the headers.
And libc did include the kernel headers.
This did provide an effective way to get new kernel features to
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 09:08:53PM +0200, Eric Piel wrote:
12.07.2005 20:38, Jim Nance wrote/a écrit:
Perhaps a little history would help. In the beginning, the kernel was
written with the intention that userland would be including the headers.
And libc did include the kernel headers.
Marc Aurele La France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It has been more than a week now...
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:12:03 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Marc Aurele La France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Linus Torvalds
> Subject: Kernel
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:37:47PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote:
> I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
> development. I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
> headers that break compatibility at the userland level, where __KERNEL__
>
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:37:47PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote:
> I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
> development. I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
> headers that break compatibility at the userland level, where __KERNEL__
>
* Marc Aurele La France ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> To that end, I would propose, as a possible technical solution, extending
> the kernel build process to detect these errors during kernel development.
Well, couple stupid comments:
#1: I'm not *entirely* sure Linus reads every mail to lkml..
:12:03 -0600 (MDT)
From: Marc Aurele La France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Linus Torvalds
Subject: Kernel header policy
Hi, Linus. It has been a while since we last talked. I hope all is well
with you and your family.
I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in
:12:03 -0600 (MDT)
From: Marc Aurele La France [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linus Torvalds
Subject: Kernel header policy
Hi, Linus. It has been a while since we last talked. I hope all is well
with you and your family.
I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
development
* Marc Aurele La France ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
To that end, I would propose, as a possible technical solution, extending
the kernel build process to detect these errors during kernel development.
Well, couple stupid comments:
#1: I'm not *entirely* sure Linus reads every mail to lkml..
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:37:47PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote:
I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
development. I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
headers that break compatibility at the userland level, where __KERNEL__
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 03:37:47PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote:
I am contacting you to express my concern over a growing trend in kernel
development. I am specifically referring to changes being made to kernel
headers that break compatibility at the userland level, where __KERNEL__
Marc Aurele La France [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has been more than a week now...
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:12:03 -0600 (MDT)
From: Marc Aurele La France [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linus Torvalds
Subject: Kernel header policy
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