Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-19 Thread Martin J. Bligh
Yes, good work, thanks a lot for it! The new interface is much better and more useful. Greetings, Rafael PS BTW, would that be possible to create the "Hibernation/Suspend" subcategory of "Power Management" that I asked for some time ago, please? :-) Oops. Sorry. Done. M. - To

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-19 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Tuesday, 19 June 2007 02:28, Martin Bligh wrote: > Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > >> I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has > >> ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). > > > > I'm hoping it's not "ended". > > > > IOW, I really don't

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-19 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Tuesday, 19 June 2007 02:28, Martin Bligh wrote: Linus Torvalds wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). I'm hoping it's not ended. IOW, I really don't think we _resolved_

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-19 Thread Martin J. Bligh
Yes, good work, thanks a lot for it! The new interface is much better and more useful. Greetings, Rafael PS BTW, would that be possible to create the Hibernation/Suspend subcategory of Power Management that I asked for some time ago, please? :-) Oops. Sorry. Done. M. - To unsubscribe

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-18 Thread Martin Bligh
Linus Torvalds wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). I'm hoping it's not "ended". IOW, I really don't think we _resolved_ anything, although the work that Adrian started is continuing

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-18 Thread Martin Bligh
Linus Torvalds wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). I'm hoping it's not ended. IOW, I really don't think we _resolved_ anything, although the work that Adrian started is continuing

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:44:39AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: [] > >That's wrong if developers are tending to reply only one thing -- > >git-bisect. > > > >If things are going to be that bad, then better to start dealing with the > >cause, not

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread david
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:22:26PM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +If the patch introduces a new regression and this

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:24:30PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:13:39PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:47, Oleg Verych wrote: > [] > > > It's OK _only_ in case of unknown, hard to find *hardware* bugs. > > > > > > If you think it's "a good

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:13:39PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:47, Oleg Verych wrote: [] > > It's OK _only_ in case of unknown, hard to find *hardware* bugs. > > > > If you think it's "a good thing" for bad, untested by developer > > code, then something is

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Stefan Richter
Michal Piotrowski wrote: > "choose minor evil to prevent a greater one" The measurement of "evil" is subjective. That's why there are releases with known regressions. -- Stefan Richter -=-=-=== -==- =---= http://arcgraph.de/sr/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
On 17/06/07, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:41:36AM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: > Hi all, > > Adrian Bunk pisze: >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: >>> ... >>> [Adrian, I'm not saying "too few users run -rc kernels", I'm

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:41:36AM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: > Hi all, > > Adrian Bunk pisze: >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: >>> ... >>> [Adrian, I'm not saying "too few users run -rc kernels", I'm saying "too >>> few FireWire driver users run -rc

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:47, Oleg Verych wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:22:26PM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: > > On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> +If the patch

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:22, Michal Piotrowski wrote: > On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > +If the patch introduces a new regression and this regression was not > > > fixed > >

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:22:26PM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: > On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> +If the patch introduces a new regression and this regression was not > >fixed

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +If the patch introduces a new regression and this regression was not fixed > +in seven days, then the patch will be reverted. Those regressions where we know

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +If the patch introduces a new regression and this regression was not fixed > +in seven days, then the patch will be reverted. Those regressions where we know which patch caused them are the easy ones. Often we

[PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
Hi all, Adrian Bunk pisze: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: ... [Adrian, I'm not saying "too few users run -rc kernels", I'm saying "too few FireWire driver users run -rc kernels".] Getting more people testing -rc kernels might be possible, and I don't think

[PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
Hi all, Adrian Bunk pisze: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: ... [Adrian, I'm not saying too few users run -rc kernels, I'm saying too few FireWire driver users run -rc kernels.] Getting more people testing -rc kernels might be possible, and I don't think it

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +If the patch introduces a new regression and this regression was not fixed +in seven days, then the patch will be reverted. Those regressions where we know which patch caused them are the easy ones. Often we don't

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +If the patch introduces a new regression and this regression was not fixed +in seven days, then the patch will be reverted. Those regressions where we know which

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:22:26PM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +If the patch introduces a new regression and this regression was not fixed +in seven

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Sunday, 17 June 2007 12:22, Michal Piotrowski wrote: On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +If the patch introduces a new regression and this regression was not fixed +in seven days,

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:47, Oleg Verych wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:22:26PM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +If the patch introduces a new

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:41:36AM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: Hi all, Adrian Bunk pisze: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: ... [Adrian, I'm not saying too few users run -rc kernels, I'm saying too few FireWire driver users run -rc kernels.] Getting more

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
On 17/06/07, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:41:36AM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: Hi all, Adrian Bunk pisze: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: ... [Adrian, I'm not saying too few users run -rc kernels, I'm saying too few

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Stefan Richter
Michal Piotrowski wrote: choose minor evil to prevent a greater one The measurement of evil is subjective. That's why there are releases with known regressions. -- Stefan Richter -=-=-=== -==- =---= http://arcgraph.de/sr/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:13:39PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:47, Oleg Verych wrote: [] It's OK _only_ in case of unknown, hard to find *hardware* bugs. If you think it's a good thing for bad, untested by developer code, then something is completely wrong.

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:24:30PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:13:39PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:47, Oleg Verych wrote: [] It's OK _only_ in case of unknown, hard to find *hardware* bugs. If you think it's a good thing for

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread david
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:22:26PM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: On 17/06/07, Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:41:36 +0200 Michal Piotrowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +If the patch introduces a new regression and this

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:44:39AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: [] That's wrong if developers are tending to reply only one thing -- git-bisect. If things are going to be that bad, then better to start dealing with the cause, not consequences. In

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: >... > [Adrian, I'm not saying "too few users run -rc kernels", I'm saying "too > few FireWire driver users run -rc kernels".] Getting more people testing -rc kernels might be possible, and I don't think it would be too hard. And

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 07:03:44AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: >... > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:55:16AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 03:32:36AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > > > For example you feel, that

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-16 Thread Michal Piotrowski
Hi Stefan, On 16/06/07, Stefan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [..] Well, if _other_ subsystems would get regressions in Linus' tree fixed quicker, there might perhaps be more people who would consider to run -rc kernels and would catch and report "my" regressions. [..] [Adrian, I'm not

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-16 Thread Stefan Richter
Oleg Verych wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: [...] >> This means going through every single point in the regression list >> asking "Have we tried everything possible to solve this regression?". [...] >> And a low hanging fruit to improve the release would be

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-16 Thread Stefan Richter
Oleg Verych wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: [...] This means going through every single point in the regression list asking Have we tried everything possible to solve this regression?. [...] And a low hanging fruit to improve the release would be if you

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-16 Thread Michal Piotrowski
Hi Stefan, On 16/06/07, Stefan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] Well, if _other_ subsystems would get regressions in Linus' tree fixed quicker, there might perhaps be more people who would consider to run -rc kernels and would catch and report my regressions. [..] [Adrian, I'm not

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 07:03:44AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: ... On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:55:16AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 03:32:36AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: ... For example you feel, that you've

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: ... [Adrian, I'm not saying too few users run -rc kernels, I'm saying too few FireWire driver users run -rc kernels.] Getting more people testing -rc kernels might be possible, and I don't think it would be too hard. And not only

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Oleg Verych
[I've added Herbert as former kernel team member in the debian(AFAIK), sorry, if i'm wrong and you have no opinion on that, Herbert.] On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:55:16AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 03:32:36AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 03:32:36AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 04:20:57PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm seeing this long (198)

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 04:20:57PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > > > > I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has > > > ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). >

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 04:20:57PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > > > > I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has > > ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). > > I'm hoping it's not "ended". > > IOW, I really don't think we

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: > > I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has > ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). I'm hoping it's not "ended". IOW, I really don't think we _resolved_ anything, although the work that Adrian started is continuing through the wiki

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). I'm hoping it's not ended. IOW, I really don't think we _resolved_ anything, although the work that Adrian started is continuing through the wiki and

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 04:20:57PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). I'm hoping it's not ended. IOW, I really don't think we _resolved_ anything,

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 04:20:57PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). I'm hoping

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 03:32:36AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 04:20:57PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-15 Thread Oleg Verych
[I've added Herbert as former kernel team member in the debian(AFAIK), sorry, if i'm wrong and you have no opinion on that, Herbert.] On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:55:16AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 03:32:36AM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 01:42:02AM

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 10:33:38PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: >... > Also, after i saw Linus' message about doing mostly tools last couple of > years, i wonder why you, Adrian, didn't think about your tools first, > before you've started regression tracking? You are not running in front > of a

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Oleg Verych
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:30:49PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 06:39:23PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: [] > > I know, that most developers here are not working/familiar with what > > Debian has as its bug shooting weapon ``The system is mainly controlled > > by e-mail, but

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 06:39:23PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 05:33:40PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: > [] > > [...] > > > Why you didn't proposed (used) Debian's BTS as alternative to bugzilla, > > [...] > > > > BTS has been mentioned in that thread in a few posts;

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Richter
Oleg Verych wrote: > I thought somebody, who familiar with that, might propose to setup/tune > it, but not doing yet another NIH thing, I may have missed something, but I recall that Adrian's bugtracking, while it lasted, and now Michal's continuing it mostly came into being because Adrian just

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Oleg Verych
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 05:33:40PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: [] > [...] > > Why you didn't proposed (used) Debian's BTS as alternative to bugzilla, > [...] > > BTS has been mentioned in that thread in a few posts; mostly positively > as I recall. I know, that most developers here are not

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Richter
Oleg Verych wrote: > I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has > ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). Direct or indirect results: - See Michal Piotrowski's periodic posts and http://kernelnewbies.org/known_regressions . - Meanwhile, the people who maintain

Re: heartbeat problems on linux 2.6.21.[34]

2007-06-14 Thread Matthias Kaehlcke
El Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 02:52:03PM +0200 Vitez Gabor ha dit: > I'm running debian etch in linux 2.6.21.[34], and ran into troubles with > heartbeat: > > In some cases, I get " > Jun 12 13:14:36 sf1 heartbeat[2973]: ERROR: No local heartbeat. Forcing > restart. > Jun

heartbeat problems on linux 2.6.21.[34]

2007-06-14 Thread Vitez Gabor
Hi, I'm running debian etch in linux 2.6.21.[34], and ran into troubles with heartbeat: In some cases, I get " Jun 12 13:14:36 sf1 heartbeat[2973]: ERROR: No local heartbeat. Forcing restart. Jun 12 13:14:36 sf1 heartbeat[2973]: WARN: Late heartbeat: Node sf1: interval 427

regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Oleg Verych
* Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel * Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:50:22 -0700 (PDT) * From: Linus Torvalds > > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007, Andi Kleen wrote: >> >> Besides the primary point of bug tracking is not to be friendly >> to someone, but to (a) fix the bugs and (b) know how many bugs >> there for a

regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Oleg Verych
* Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel * Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:50:22 -0700 (PDT) * From: Linus Torvalds On Sun, 29 Apr 2007, Andi Kleen wrote: Besides the primary point of bug tracking is not to be friendly to someone, but to (a) fix the bugs and (b) know how many bugs there for a given

heartbeat problems on linux 2.6.21.[34]

2007-06-14 Thread Vitez Gabor
Hi, I'm running debian etch in linux 2.6.21.[34], and ran into troubles with heartbeat: In some cases, I get Jun 12 13:14:36 sf1 heartbeat[2973]: ERROR: No local heartbeat. Forcing restart. Jun 12 13:14:36 sf1 heartbeat[2973]: WARN: Late heartbeat: Node sf1: interval 42740 ms The heartbeat

Re: heartbeat problems on linux 2.6.21.[34]

2007-06-14 Thread Matthias Kaehlcke
El Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 02:52:03PM +0200 Vitez Gabor ha dit: I'm running debian etch in linux 2.6.21.[34], and ran into troubles with heartbeat: In some cases, I get Jun 12 13:14:36 sf1 heartbeat[2973]: ERROR: No local heartbeat. Forcing restart. Jun 12 13:14:36 sf1 heartbeat[2973

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Richter
Oleg Verych wrote: I'm seeing this long (198) thread and just have no idea how it has ended (wiki? hand-mailing?). Direct or indirect results: - See Michal Piotrowski's periodic posts and http://kernelnewbies.org/known_regressions . - Meanwhile, the people who maintain

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Oleg Verych
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 05:33:40PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: [] [...] Why you didn't proposed (used) Debian's BTS as alternative to bugzilla, [...] BTS has been mentioned in that thread in a few posts; mostly positively as I recall. I know, that most developers here are not

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Richter
Oleg Verych wrote: I thought somebody, who familiar with that, might propose to setup/tune it, but not doing yet another NIH thing, I may have missed something, but I recall that Adrian's bugtracking, while it lasted, and now Michal's continuing it mostly came into being because Adrian just

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 06:39:23PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 05:33:40PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: [] [...] Why you didn't proposed (used) Debian's BTS as alternative to bugzilla, [...] BTS has been mentioned in that thread in a few posts; mostly positively

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Oleg Verych
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:30:49PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 06:39:23PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: [] I know, that most developers here are not working/familiar with what Debian has as its bug shooting weapon ``The system is mainly controlled by e-mail, but the bug

Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21)

2007-06-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 10:33:38PM +0200, Oleg Verych wrote: ... Also, after i saw Linus' message about doing mostly tools last couple of years, i wonder why you, Adrian, didn't think about your tools first, before you've started regression tracking? You are not running in front of a train,

Re: Linux 2.6.21: pmtmr losing time

2007-05-14 Thread Joerg Sommrey
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:36:24AM +0200, Joerg Sommrey wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 11:38:34PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 18:39 +0200, Joerg Sommrey wrote: > > > Here it is. Maybe this problem is related to the usage of the > > > "experimental" amd76x_pm module?

Re: patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-14 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 11:19:52AM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: > On 5/14/07, Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:18 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: > > >I'm sorry... but why are you posting these patches here? Those aren't > >GPL modules, and thus very offtopic for lkml,

[OT] Re: patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-14 Thread Petr Vandrovec
Jeff Chua wrote: On 5/14/07, Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:18 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: I'm sorry... but why are you posting these patches here? Those aren't GPL modules, and thus very offtopic for lkml, maybe except for if you want to deliberately have

[OT] Re: patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-14 Thread Petr Vandrovec
Jeff Chua wrote: On 5/14/07, Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:18 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: I'm sorry... but why are you posting these patches here? Those aren't GPL modules, and thus very offtopic for lkml, maybe except for if you want to deliberately have

Re: patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-14 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 11:19:52AM +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: On 5/14/07, Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:18 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: I'm sorry... but why are you posting these patches here? Those aren't GPL modules, and thus very offtopic for lkml, maybe

Re: Linux 2.6.21: pmtmr losing time

2007-05-14 Thread Joerg Sommrey
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:36:24AM +0200, Joerg Sommrey wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 11:38:34PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 18:39 +0200, Joerg Sommrey wrote: Here it is. Maybe this problem is related to the usage of the experimental amd76x_pm module? Can

Re: patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-13 Thread Jeff Chua
On 5/14/07, Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:18 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: I'm sorry... but why are you posting these patches here? Those aren't GPL modules, and thus very offtopic for lkml, maybe except for if you want to deliberately have people look at

Re: patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-13 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:18 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: > Attached are patches for vmware-5.5.3 to make the vmmon and vmnet > modules compile under Linux-2.6.22-rc1. I'm sorry... but why are you posting these patches here? Those aren't GPL modules, and thus very offtopic for lkml, maybe except for

patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-13 Thread Jeff Chua
Attached are patches for vmware-5.5.3 to make the vmmon and vmnet modules compile under Linux-2.6.22-rc1. Thanks, Jeff. --- vmware/vmmon-only/include/compat_kernel.h.org 2006-12-26 16:47:25 +0800 +++ vmware/vmmon-only/include/compat_kernel.h 2006-12-26 16:48:00 +0800 @@ -18,7 +18,9 @@

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-13 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[David Woodhouse - Sun, May 13, 2007 at 02:50:10PM +0800] | On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 10:43 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: | > Btw David who does release a such snapshots (like git16)? You or | > Linus? | | I do. Not that I've actually had much involvement with it for a while -- | it's mostly done by

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-13 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 10:43 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: > Btw David who does release a such snapshots (like git16)? You or > Linus? I do. Not that I've actually had much involvement with it for a while -- it's mostly done by cron and the script at http://david.woodhou.se/git-snapshot.sh --

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-13 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[David Woodhouse - Sun, May 13, 2007 at 02:26:40PM +0800] | On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:01 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: | > On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: | > >On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: | > >> Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like | >

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-13 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:01 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: > >On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: > >> Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like > >> v.2.6.21-git16) were in Linus' git tree too. > > > >Then there

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-13 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:01 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like v.2.6.21-git16) were in Linus' git tree too. Then there would be

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-13 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[David Woodhouse - Sun, May 13, 2007 at 02:26:40PM +0800] | On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:01 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: | On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: | On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: | Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like |

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-13 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 10:43 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: Btw David who does release a such snapshots (like git16)? You or Linus? I do. Not that I've actually had much involvement with it for a while -- it's mostly done by cron and the script at http://david.woodhou.se/git-snapshot.sh --

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-13 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[David Woodhouse - Sun, May 13, 2007 at 02:50:10PM +0800] | On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 10:43 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: | Btw David who does release a such snapshots (like git16)? You or | Linus? | | I do. Not that I've actually had much involvement with it for a while -- | it's mostly done by

patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-13 Thread Jeff Chua
Attached are patches for vmware-5.5.3 to make the vmmon and vmnet modules compile under Linux-2.6.22-rc1. Thanks, Jeff. --- vmware/vmmon-only/include/compat_kernel.h.org 2006-12-26 16:47:25 +0800 +++ vmware/vmmon-only/include/compat_kernel.h 2006-12-26 16:48:00 +0800 @@ -18,7 +18,9 @@

Re: patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-13 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:18 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: Attached are patches for vmware-5.5.3 to make the vmmon and vmnet modules compile under Linux-2.6.22-rc1. I'm sorry... but why are you posting these patches here? Those aren't GPL modules, and thus very offtopic for lkml, maybe except for if

Re: patch for vmware for Linux-2.6.21

2007-05-13 Thread Jeff Chua
On 5/14/07, Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 09:18 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote: I'm sorry... but why are you posting these patches here? Those aren't GPL modules, and thus very offtopic for lkml, maybe except for if you want to deliberately have people look at

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread H. Peter Anvin
David Woodhouse wrote: > On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: >> Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like >> v.2.6.21-git16) were in Linus' git tree too. > > Then there would be _lots_ of tags in the master tree -- I'm not sure we > want that. > > I suppose

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[Russell King - Sat, May 12, 2007 at 05:31:41PM +0100] | On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 08:24:28PM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: | > [Jan Engelhardt - Sat, May 12, 2007 at 05:01:19PM +0200] | > | | > | On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: | > | >On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Russell King
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 08:24:28PM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: > [Jan Engelhardt - Sat, May 12, 2007 at 05:01:19PM +0200] > | > | On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: > | >On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: > | >> Actually I think it would be convenient if such

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[Jan Engelhardt - Sat, May 12, 2007 at 05:01:19PM +0200] | | On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: | >On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: | >> Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like | >> v.2.6.21-git16) were in Linus' git tree too. | > | >Then

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[Jan Engelhardt - Sat, May 12, 2007 at 05:01:19PM +0200] | | On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: | >On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: | >> Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like | >> v.2.6.21-git16) were in Linus' git tree too. | > | >Then

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On May 12 2007 21:44, David Woodhouse wrote: >On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: >> Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like >> v.2.6.21-git16) were in Linus' git tree too. > >Then there would be _lots_ of tags in the master tree -- I'm not sure we >want

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[David Woodhouse - Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:44:56PM +0800] | On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: | > Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like | > v.2.6.21-git16) were in Linus' git tree too. | | Then there would be _lots_ of tags in the master tree -- I'm

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread David Woodhouse
On Sat, 2007-05-12 at 17:19 +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: > Actually I think it would be convenient if such tags (like > v.2.6.21-git16) were in Linus' git tree too. Then there would be _lots_ of tags in the master tree -- I'm not sure we want that. I suppose I could put a tree on kernel.org

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Cyrill Gorcunov
[YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / ?$B5HF#1QL@ - Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:03:08PM +0900] | In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (at Sat, 12 May 2007 13:19:23 +0200 (MEST)), Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says: | | > I notice that people refer to certain git snapshots as e.g. -git16; | > kernel.org does so too.

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (at Sat, 12 May 2007 13:19:23 +0200 (MEST)), Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says: > I notice that people refer to certain git snapshots as e.g. -git16; > kernel.org does so too. Hovering over the link on kernel.org reveals >

Re: linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 01:19:23PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > Hi list, > > > I notice that people refer to certain git snapshots as e.g. -git16; > kernel.org does so too. Hovering over the link on kernel.org reveals > http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/snapshots/patch-2.6.21-git16.bz2

linux-2.6.21-gitN - versioning question

2007-05-12 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Hi list, I notice that people refer to certain git snapshots as e.g. -git16; kernel.org does so too. Hovering over the link on kernel.org reveals http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/snapshots/patch-2.6.21-git16.bz2 but where do I actually find -git16 in Linus's git tree? git16 is neither

  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   >