Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 14:01 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset > > level. > > Doing so would be wasteful though. Both AMD and Intel CPUs need SMM code > for the deeper C* sleep states. > Wouldn't it be useful for !CONFIG_PM?

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-08 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 09:47:54AM -0700, Tim Hockin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:01:25PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset > > > level. > > > > Doing so would be wasteful though. Both AMD and Intel CPUs need SMM code > >

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-08 Thread Tim Hockin
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:01:25PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset > > level. > > Doing so would be wasteful though. Both AMD and Intel CPUs need SMM code > for the deeper C* sleep states. Really? I'm not too familiar with the

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-08 Thread Andi Kleen
> Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset > level. Doing so would be wasteful though. Both AMD and Intel CPUs need SMM code for the deeper C* sleep states. -Andi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-08 Thread Andi Kleen
Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset level. Doing so would be wasteful though. Both AMD and Intel CPUs need SMM code for the deeper C* sleep states. -Andi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-08 Thread Tim Hockin
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:01:25PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset level. Doing so would be wasteful though. Both AMD and Intel CPUs need SMM code for the deeper C* sleep states. Really? I'm not too familiar with the deeper

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-08 Thread Andi Kleen
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 09:47:54AM -0700, Tim Hockin wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 02:01:25PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset level. Doing so would be wasteful though. Both AMD and Intel CPUs need SMM code for the

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 14:01 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset level. Doing so would be wasteful though. Both AMD and Intel CPUs need SMM code for the deeper C* sleep states. Wouldn't it be useful for !CONFIG_PM? Many

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Tim Hockin
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 02:51:19PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > It's most likely bad SMM code in the BIOS that blocks the CPU too long > > and is triggered in idle. You can verify that by using idle=poll > > (not recommended for production, just for testing) and see if it goes away. > > > > WTF,

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Tim Hockin
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 02:46:50PM -0400, Erick Turnquist wrote: > > Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset > > level. > > I don't see anything about SMM in my BIOS configuration even with the > advanced options enabled... Turning it off at the chipset level

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Zwane Mwaikambo
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > It's most likely bad SMM code in the BIOS that blocks the CPU too long > > and is triggered in idle. You can verify that by using idle=poll > > (not recommended for production, just for testing) and see if it goes away. > > > > WTF, since when do

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 13:36 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > Erick Turnquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi, I'm running an Athlon64 X2 4400+ (a dual core model) with an > > nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra on a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and > > getting nasty messages like these in my dmesg: > >

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Erick Turnquist
> Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset > level. I don't see anything about SMM in my BIOS configuration even with the advanced options enabled... Turning it off at the chipset level sounds like a hardware hack - is it? The gettimeofday patch for 2.6.13-rc3

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Tim Hockin
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 01:36:01PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > Erick Turnquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi, I'm running an Athlon64 X2 4400+ (a dual core model) with an > > nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra on a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and > > getting nasty messages like these in my

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Erick Turnquist
> It's most likely bad SMM code in the BIOS that blocks the CPU too long > and is triggered in idle. Might a BIOS flash help, or is this something that's there to stay? > No way to fix this, but you can work around it with very new kernels > by compiling with a lower HZ than 1000. Actually, it

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Andi Kleen
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 02:29:16PM +, Parag Warudkar wrote: > > No way to fix this, but you can work around it with very new kernels > > by compiling with a lower HZ than 1000. > > John Stultz's timeofday patches seem to fix this lost ticks issue. You might > want to try them. > > (I too,

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Parag Warudkar
> No way to fix this, but you can work around it with very new kernels > by compiling with a lower HZ than 1000. John Stultz's timeofday patches seem to fix this lost ticks issue. You might want to try them. (I too, routinely get "lost ticks - rip is at acpi_processor_idle" messages which

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Andi Kleen
Erick Turnquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, I'm running an Athlon64 X2 4400+ (a dual core model) with an > nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra on a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and > getting nasty messages like these in my dmesg: > > warning: many lost ticks. > Your time source seems to be

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Andi Kleen
Erick Turnquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm running an Athlon64 X2 4400+ (a dual core model) with an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra on a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and getting nasty messages like these in my dmesg: warning: many lost ticks. Your time source seems to be instable or

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Parag Warudkar
No way to fix this, but you can work around it with very new kernels by compiling with a lower HZ than 1000. John Stultz's timeofday patches seem to fix this lost ticks issue. You might want to try them. (I too, routinely get lost ticks - rip is at acpi_processor_idle messages which

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Andi Kleen
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 02:29:16PM +, Parag Warudkar wrote: No way to fix this, but you can work around it with very new kernels by compiling with a lower HZ than 1000. John Stultz's timeofday patches seem to fix this lost ticks issue. You might want to try them. (I too, routinely

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Erick Turnquist
It's most likely bad SMM code in the BIOS that blocks the CPU too long and is triggered in idle. Might a BIOS flash help, or is this something that's there to stay? No way to fix this, but you can work around it with very new kernels by compiling with a lower HZ than 1000. Actually, it was

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Tim Hockin
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 01:36:01PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: Erick Turnquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm running an Athlon64 X2 4400+ (a dual core model) with an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra on a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and getting nasty messages like these in my dmesg:

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Erick Turnquist
Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset level. I don't see anything about SMM in my BIOS configuration even with the advanced options enabled... Turning it off at the chipset level sounds like a hardware hack - is it? The gettimeofday patch for 2.6.13-rc3 won't

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 13:36 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: Erick Turnquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm running an Athlon64 X2 4400+ (a dual core model) with an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra on a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and getting nasty messages like these in my dmesg: warning:

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Zwane Mwaikambo
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Lee Revell wrote: It's most likely bad SMM code in the BIOS that blocks the CPU too long and is triggered in idle. You can verify that by using idle=poll (not recommended for production, just for testing) and see if it goes away. WTF, since when do *desktops* use

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Tim Hockin
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 02:46:50PM -0400, Erick Turnquist wrote: Some BIOSes do not lock SMM, and you *could* turn it off at the chipset level. I don't see anything about SMM in my BIOS configuration even with the advanced options enabled... Turning it off at the chipset level sounds like

Re: Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-07 Thread Tim Hockin
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 02:51:19PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: It's most likely bad SMM code in the BIOS that blocks the CPU too long and is triggered in idle. You can verify that by using idle=poll (not recommended for production, just for testing) and see if it goes away. WTF, since

Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-06 Thread Erick Turnquist
Hi, I'm running an Athlon64 X2 4400+ (a dual core model) with an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra on a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and getting nasty messages like these in my dmesg: warning: many lost ticks. Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interupts rip

Lost Ticks on x86_64

2005-08-06 Thread Erick Turnquist
Hi, I'm running an Athlon64 X2 4400+ (a dual core model) with an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra on a Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI motherboard and getting nasty messages like these in my dmesg: warning: many lost ticks. Your time source seems to be instable or some driver is hogging interupts rip