On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:42:37AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> I also agree and am rather disappointed by this news.
> Unfortunately, I've already bought an A8N-SLI.
If you can send it back citing the driver issues as the reason.
Linux sales are probably a tiny blip on the radar for them so I
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:42:37AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
I also agree and am rather disappointed by this news.
Unfortunately, I've already bought an A8N-SLI.
If you can send it back citing the driver issues as the reason.
Linux sales are probably a tiny blip on the radar for them so I
* Lion Vollnhals ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 14.08.2005, 09:29 -0400 schrieb Willem Riede:
> > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:54:35 +, Allen Martin wrote:
> > That is disappointing. I was seriously considering a motherboard with your
> > chipset because of its impressive
> Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
> be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
> especially for storage / boot volume. We decided it wasn't worth the
> headache of a binary driver for this one feature. Future nForce
> chipsets
Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
especially for storage / boot volume. We decided it wasn't worth the
headache of a binary driver for this one feature. Future nForce
chipsets will
* Lion Vollnhals ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 14.08.2005, 09:29 -0400 schrieb Willem Riede:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:54:35 +, Allen Martin wrote:
That is disappointing. I was seriously considering a motherboard with your
chipset because of its impressive specifications, but
Am Sonntag, den 14.08.2005, 09:29 -0400 schrieb Willem Riede:
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:54:35 +, Allen Martin wrote:
>
> > Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
> > be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
> > especially for
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:54:35 +, Allen Martin wrote:
> Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
> be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
> especially for storage / boot volume. We decided it wasn't worth the
> headache of a binary
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:54:35 +, Allen Martin wrote:
Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
especially for storage / boot volume. We decided it wasn't worth the
headache of a binary
Am Sonntag, den 14.08.2005, 09:29 -0400 schrieb Willem Riede:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:54:35 +, Allen Martin wrote:
Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
especially for storage / boot
Michael Thonke wrote:
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali
who cares where to buy?
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination,
>>From what Allen said, the implication to me is that something
>in the current NVIDIA stat NCQ chipset is *not* fully under
>NVIDIA's control, ie they got some piece of technology from
>someone else and cannot disclose its details, which would be
>why the could release a "clean" redesigned one.
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 05:39:03PM +0200, Diego Calleja wrote:
> HP, Sun & friends seem to use AMD chipsets (AMD64 has a serious lack of
? As far as I know, Ultra20 uses nforce4 chipset at least according to some
pdf donwloaded from Sun's site.
Also please note that here I would like to have a
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 05:39:03PM +0200, Diego Calleja wrote:
HP, Sun friends seem to use AMD chipsets (AMD64 has a serious lack of
? As far as I know, Ultra20 uses nforce4 chipset at least according to some
pdf donwloaded from Sun's site.
Also please note that here I would like to have a
From what Allen said, the implication to me is that something
in the current NVIDIA stat NCQ chipset is *not* fully under
NVIDIA's control, ie they got some piece of technology from
someone else and cannot disclose its details, which would be
why the could release a clean redesigned one.
Bäh.
Michael Thonke wrote:
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali
who cares where to buy?
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination,
Michael Thonke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> USB works also great for all chipsets :-)
Not here. I've had plenty of problems with VIA K8T800 USB, but only
with USB mass storage devices:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2915
Otherwise the chipset has worked very well. Only one
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Please enable ATA_DEBUG and ATA_VERBOSE_DEBUG, and send me the output.
I tried that Jeff, but the base problem is on the low-level..
There may be a BIOS problem, but there is no problem with the
controller using SATA
Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Michael Thonke wrote:
> > There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
> > Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali
> > who cares where to buy?
>
>
> What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64
Michael Thonke wrote:
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Please enable ATA_DEBUG and ATA_VERBOSE_DEBUG, and send me the output.
I tried that Jeff, but the base problem is on the low-level..
There may be a BIOS problem, but there is no problem with the controller
using SATA II drives.
Can you boot
Lennart Sorensen schrieb:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:38:12PM +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
I have a ASUS A8V Deluxe too, and can't use the AMD X2 processor on
it...this is a feature..right?
Supposed to run with DualCore but don't post..hm.
Well according to Asus you can if you run
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:38:12PM +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
> I have a ASUS A8V Deluxe too, and can't use the AMD X2 processor on
> it...this is a feature..right?
> Supposed to run with DualCore but don't post..hm.
Well according to Asus you can if you run BIOS 1013 or 1014 on the
board.
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
I have a ASUS A8V Deluxe too, and can't use the AMD X2 processor on
it...this is a feature..right?
Supposed to run with DualCore but don't post..hm.
What does ASUS say about this? You can't just plug a new processor
into an old motherboard and
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:44:49PM +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
> AMD X2 DualCore?
If you buy me one I will try it. :)
> Yes, Marvell, Silicon Image no problem as they provide OpenSource drivers.
> On a normal setup is nearly everything okay.
>
> I hold up a hardware testlab to find b**
Michael Thonke wrote:
I have a ASUS A8V Deluxe too, and can't use the AMD X2 processor on
it...this is a feature..right?
Supposed to run with DualCore but don't post..hm.
What does ASUS say about this? You can't just plug a new processor into
an old motherboard and expect it to work,
Lennart Sorensen schrieb:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:20:56PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under Linux?
My Athlon64 with VIA chipset works great.
Mine does too. Asus A8V Deluxe. No problems so far. Everything on the
board I
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali
who cares where to buy?
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under Linux?
I have a
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:20:56PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under Linux?
>
> My Athlon64 with VIA chipset works great.
Mine does too. Asus A8V Deluxe. No problems so far. Everything on the
board I have tried just works.
Can't say
Michael Thonke wrote:
There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali who
cares where to buy?
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under Linux?
My Athlon64 with VIA chipset works
Roger Heflin schrieb:
For high end stuff Serverworks is supposed to have some
AMD stuff soon (this is rumor I heard).
If there where some pieces for desktop from AMD orignially I would take
them..but
they don't offer...that's the point...to cry.
Like Intel offer ..Intel CPU + Intel
:44 AM
> To: Lee Revell
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Allen Martin; linux mailing-list
> Subject: Re: NCQ support NVidia NForce4 (CK804) SATAII
>
> Lee Revell schrieb:
>
> >On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:17 +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
> >
> >
> >>*frustrated*
&
Lee Revell schrieb:
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:17 +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
*frustrated*
Hey I don't like it any more than you do. But Nvidia is an IP company
and they act like one. Most of us would probably do the exact same
thing in their position, AKA whatever the lawyers tell
El Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:17:59 +0200,
Michael Thonke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
> Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali who
> cares where to buy?
HP, Sun & friends seem to use AMD chipsets
Lee Revell schrieb:
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 09:09 +0200, Gábor Lénárt wrote:
I want to buy a new system including
motherboard with some Athlon64 CPU. I was told that nforce4 chipset is
the "right" choice. However I'm using *only* Linux
Who told you that? Some Windows user?
(1.)
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:17 +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
> *frustrated*
Hey I don't like it any more than you do. But Nvidia is an IP company
and they act like one. Most of us would probably do the exact same
thing in their position, AKA whatever the lawyers tell them ;-)
Lee
-
To unsubscribe
Allen Martin schrieb:
Erm, why they are not willing to support NCQ under Linux...I
mean many
people using NVIDIA based mainboards. And that against that what I
thought NVidia stands for - Linux friendly but seems only that this
statement fit on graficcards? Is there no "responsible" person
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 09:09 +0200, Gábor Lénárt wrote:
> I want to buy a new system including
> motherboard with some Athlon64 CPU. I was told that nforce4 chipset is
> the "right" choice. However I'm using *only* Linux
Who told you that? Some Windows user?
It's common knowledge that Nvidia is
Hello,
Hmm, I can't understand this. I want to buy a new system including
motherboard with some Athlon64 CPU. I was told that nforce4 chipset is the
"right" choice. However I'm using *only* Linux (well, sometimes BSDs,
Solaris and such) and I have *never* had windows installed on any of my
Hello,
Hmm, I can't understand this. I want to buy a new system including
motherboard with some Athlon64 CPU. I was told that nforce4 chipset is the
right choice. However I'm using *only* Linux (well, sometimes BSDs,
Solaris and such) and I have *never* had windows installed on any of my
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 09:09 +0200, Gábor Lénárt wrote:
I want to buy a new system including
motherboard with some Athlon64 CPU. I was told that nforce4 chipset is
the right choice. However I'm using *only* Linux
Who told you that? Some Windows user?
It's common knowledge that Nvidia is not
Allen Martin schrieb:
Erm, why they are not willing to support NCQ under Linux...I
mean many
people using NVIDIA based mainboards. And that against that what I
thought NVidia stands for - Linux friendly but seems only that this
statement fit on graficcards? Is there no responsible person
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:17 +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
*frustrated*
Hey I don't like it any more than you do. But Nvidia is an IP company
and they act like one. Most of us would probably do the exact same
thing in their position, AKA whatever the lawyers tell them ;-)
Lee
-
To unsubscribe
Lee Revell schrieb:
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 09:09 +0200, Gábor Lénárt wrote:
I want to buy a new system including
motherboard with some Athlon64 CPU. I was told that nforce4 chipset is
the right choice. However I'm using *only* Linux
Who told you that? Some Windows user?
(1.)
El Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:17:59 +0200,
Michael Thonke [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali who
cares where to buy?
HP, Sun friends seem to use AMD chipsets (AMD64 has
Lee Revell schrieb:
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:17 +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
*frustrated*
Hey I don't like it any more than you do. But Nvidia is an IP company
and they act like one. Most of us would probably do the exact same
thing in their position, AKA whatever the lawyers tell
PROTECTED]; Allen Martin; linux mailing-list
Subject: Re: NCQ support NVidia NForce4 (CK804) SATAII
Lee Revell schrieb:
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 17:17 +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
*frustrated*
Hey I don't like it any more than you do. But Nvidia is an
IP company
and they act
Roger Heflin schrieb:
For high end stuff Serverworks is supposed to have some
AMD stuff soon (this is rumor I heard).
If there where some pieces for desktop from AMD orignially I would take
them..but
they don't offer...that's the point...to cry.
Like Intel offer ..Intel CPU + Intel
Michael Thonke wrote:
There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali who
cares where to buy?
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under Linux?
My Athlon64 with VIA chipset works
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:20:56PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under Linux?
My Athlon64 with VIA chipset works great.
Mine does too. Asus A8V Deluxe. No problems so far. Everything on the
board I have tried just works.
Can't say my
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali
who cares where to buy?
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under Linux?
I have a
Lennart Sorensen schrieb:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:20:56PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under Linux?
My Athlon64 with VIA chipset works great.
Mine does too. Asus A8V Deluxe. No problems so far. Everything on the
board I
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:44:49PM +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
AMD X2 DualCore?
If you buy me one I will try it. :)
Yes, Marvell, Silicon Image no problem as they provide OpenSource drivers.
On a normal setup is nearly everything okay.
I hold up a hardware testlab to find b**
Michael Thonke wrote:
I have a ASUS A8V Deluxe too, and can't use the AMD X2 processor on
it...this is a feature..right?
Supposed to run with DualCore but don't post..hm.
What does ASUS say about this? You can't just plug a new processor into
an old motherboard and expect it to work,
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
I have a ASUS A8V Deluxe too, and can't use the AMD X2 processor on
it...this is a feature..right?
Supposed to run with DualCore but don't post..hm.
What does ASUS say about this? You can't just plug a new processor
into an old motherboard and
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:38:12PM +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
I have a ASUS A8V Deluxe too, and can't use the AMD X2 processor on
it...this is a feature..right?
Supposed to run with DualCore but don't post..hm.
Well according to Asus you can if you run BIOS 1013 or 1014 on the
board. Any
Lennart Sorensen schrieb:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 07:38:12PM +0200, Michael Thonke wrote:
I have a ASUS A8V Deluxe too, and can't use the AMD X2 processor on
it...this is a feature..right?
Supposed to run with DualCore but don't post..hm.
Well according to Asus you can if you run
Michael Thonke wrote:
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Please enable ATA_DEBUG and ATA_VERBOSE_DEBUG, and send me the output.
I tried that Jeff, but the base problem is on the low-level..
There may be a BIOS problem, but there is no problem with the controller
using SATA II drives.
Can you boot
Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael Thonke wrote:
There is no other way to use a nearly good chipset for AMD64 cpus.
Via's chipsets are really buggy not acceptable, so what else ULi/Ali
who cares where to buy?
What specifically does not work, on VIA+AMD64 combination, under
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Please enable ATA_DEBUG and ATA_VERBOSE_DEBUG, and send me the output.
I tried that Jeff, but the base problem is on the low-level..
There may be a BIOS problem, but there is no problem with the
controller using SATA
Michael Thonke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
USB works also great for all chipsets :-)
Not here. I've had plenty of problems with VIA K8T800 USB, but only
with USB mass storage devices:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2915
Otherwise the chipset has worked very well. Only one
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 01:53:47PM -0700, Allen Martin wrote:
> Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
> be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
> especially for storage / boot volume. We decided it wasn't worth the
> headache of a
> Erm, why they are not willing to support NCQ under Linux...I
> mean many
> people using NVIDIA based mainboards. And that against that what I
> thought NVidia stands for - Linux friendly but seems only that this
> statement fit on graficcards? Is there no "responsible" person that
>
> > Ask NVIDIA. They are the only company that gives me -zero-
> > information on their SATA controllers.
>
> I thought of that.. *sigh*
NVIDIA won't be documenting nForce4 SATA controllers, so Linux NCQ
support for nForce4 is unlikely. I'm hoping this will change with
future products.
> >
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Ask NVIDIA. They are the only company that gives me -zero-
information on their SATA controllers.
Hello again,
Jeff, did you found any informations about NForce4 SATA Controller?
I found a Product Brief/Specification and a Blockdiagramm.
Also found out that the CK804
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
Hello Jeff,
I would like to ask what the plans/timeplan to implement NCQ support
for NVidia NForce4(CK804) SATAII based chipsets? Fact is that is it
possible to use NCQ with NForce4 SATAII on Windows system, I wonder
why it isn't support by
Michael Thonke wrote:
Hello Jeff,
I would like to ask what the plans/timeplan to implement NCQ support for
NVidia NForce4(CK804) SATAII based chipsets? Fact is that is it possible
to use NCQ with NForce4 SATAII on Windows system, I wonder why it isn't
support by libata? Is there something in
Hello Jeff,
I would like to ask what the plans/timeplan to implement NCQ support for
NVidia NForce4(CK804) SATAII based chipsets? Fact is that is it possible
to use NCQ with NForce4 SATAII on Windows system, I wonder why it isn't
support by libata? Is there something in your git-tree? Or what
Hello Jeff,
I would like to ask what the plans/timeplan to implement NCQ support for
NVidia NForce4(CK804) SATAII based chipsets? Fact is that is it possible
to use NCQ with NForce4 SATAII on Windows system, I wonder why it isn't
support by libata? Is there something in your git-tree? Or what
Michael Thonke wrote:
Hello Jeff,
I would like to ask what the plans/timeplan to implement NCQ support for
NVidia NForce4(CK804) SATAII based chipsets? Fact is that is it possible
to use NCQ with NForce4 SATAII on Windows system, I wonder why it isn't
support by libata? Is there something in
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Michael Thonke wrote:
Hello Jeff,
I would like to ask what the plans/timeplan to implement NCQ support
for NVidia NForce4(CK804) SATAII based chipsets? Fact is that is it
possible to use NCQ with NForce4 SATAII on Windows system, I wonder
why it isn't support by
Jeff Garzik schrieb:
Ask NVIDIA. They are the only company that gives me -zero-
information on their SATA controllers.
Hello again,
Jeff, did you found any informations about NForce4 SATA Controller?
I found a Product Brief/Specification and a Blockdiagramm.
Also found out that the CK804
Ask NVIDIA. They are the only company that gives me -zero-
information on their SATA controllers.
I thought of that.. *sigh*
NVIDIA won't be documenting nForce4 SATA controllers, so Linux NCQ
support for nForce4 is unlikely. I'm hoping this will change with
future products.
As such,
Erm, why they are not willing to support NCQ under Linux...I
mean many
people using NVIDIA based mainboards. And that against that what I
thought NVidia stands for - Linux friendly but seems only that this
statement fit on graficcards? Is there no responsible person that
says...Hello,
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 01:53:47PM -0700, Allen Martin wrote:
Likely the only way nForce4 NCQ support could be added under Linux would
be with a closed source binary driver, and no one really wants that,
especially for storage / boot volume. We decided it wasn't worth the
headache of a binary
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