Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-02-01 Thread Tejun Heo
Kasper Sandberg wrote: > to put some timeline perspective into this. > i believe it was in 2005 i assembled the system, and when i realized it > was faulty, on old ide driver, i stopped using it - that miht have been > in beginning of 2006. then for almost a year i werent using it, hoping > to

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-02-01 Thread Tejun Heo
Kasper Sandberg wrote: to put some timeline perspective into this. i believe it was in 2005 i assembled the system, and when i realized it was faulty, on old ide driver, i stopped using it - that miht have been in beginning of 2006. then for almost a year i werent using it, hoping to somehow

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: I doubt libata has that capability now, or ever will, cuz these ide/atapi devices are generally dumber than rocks about that. But any device claiming to be scsi-II is supposed to be able to do those sorts of things while the cpu is off crunching numbers for BOINC or

RE: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Adam Turk
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>if this works then it really needs to move and be renamed. I am compiling >> with DEV_SR set. >> > That fixed me right up, Adam, & k3b is once again as happy as a clam. Fixed it for me too. I just realized the default config in 2.6.24 is way different than the

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
> By the linux software definition maybe. But I've defined scsi as that which > uses a 50 wire cable using 50 contact centronics connectors since the > mid '70's, and which often needs a ready supply of nubile virgins t 25, 50 or 68, with multiple voltage levels, plus of course it might be

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: >> That could stand to be moved or renamed, it is well buried in the menu for >> the REAL scsi stuffs, which I don't have any of. > >Yes you do - USB storage and ATAPI are SCSI By the linux software definition maybe. But I've defined scsi as that which

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
> I've seen a lot of verbosity out of SCSI messages, but I haven't seen a > straightforward interpretation of the problem in there. It's all > information useful for debugging, not information useful for system > administration. It tells you what is going on. Unfortunately that frequently

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Alan Cox wrote: > > The SCSI error reporting really ought to include a simple interpretation > > of the error for end users ("The drive doesn't support this command" "A > > sector's data got lost" "The drive timed out" "The drive failed" "The > > drive is entirely gone").

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
> That could stand to be moved or renamed, it is well buried in the menu for > the > REAL scsi stuffs, which I don't have any of. Yes you do - USB storage and ATAPI are SCSI -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
> The SCSI error reporting really ought to include a simple interpretation > of the error for end users ("The drive doesn't support this command" "A > sector's data got lost" "The drive timed out" "The drive failed" "The > drive is entirely gone"). There's too much similarity between the

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: >>> Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread rgheck
Mark Lord wrote: rgheck wrote: Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to -

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
rgheck wrote: Mark Lord wrote: rgheck wrote: Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Alan Cox wrote: > > not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, > > say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. > > We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for > the most part boil down to > > -

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
rgheck wrote: Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - sata_nv with >4GB of

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Alan Cox wrote: > > things in the kernel that refer to SCSI probably should say "storage" (or > > "ATA", really, but that would make the acronyms confusing). > > SCSI is a command protocol. It is what your CD-ROM drive and USB storage > devices talk (albeit with a bit of an

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: .. Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Daniel Barkalow wrote: >On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >For starters, enable CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR. >> >> That could stand to be moved or renamed, it is well buried in the menu for >> the REAL scsi stuffs, which I don't have any of. Enabled & building now. >

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Adam Turk wrote: >I just found this thread and it looks like it will fix my problem too. I > have an IDE cd-rw drive and 2 SCSI hard drives. My ide cd-rw drive hasn't > been showing up. I looked at setting scsi cdrom support > (CONFIG_BLOCK_DEV_SR) but it doesn't

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
> things in the kernel that refer to SCSI probably should say "storage" (or > "ATA", really, but that would make the acronyms confusing). SCSI is a command protocol. It is what your CD-ROM drive and USB storage devices talk (albeit with a bit of an accent). Alan -- To unsubscribe from this

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Adam Turk
I just found this thread and it looks like it will fix my problem too. I have an IDE cd-rw drive and 2 SCSI hard drives. My ide cd-rw drive hasn't been showing up. I looked at setting scsi cdrom support (CONFIG_BLOCK_DEV_SR) but it doesn't mention anything about ide drives using libata. I

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: > >For starters, enable CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR. > > That could stand to be moved or renamed, it is well buried in the menu for > the > REAL scsi stuffs, which I don't have any of. Enabled & building now. The "SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)"

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Jeff Garzik
Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
> Is this >4GB or >=4GB? I've seen contradictory reports, and I've got 4GB. Depends how the memory is mapped. Any memory physically above the 4GB boundary Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number >> when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that >> says something about using the bios for device access this build, but I'll

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread rgheck
Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - sata_nv with >4GB of RAM, knowing

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Mikael Pettersson wrote: >Gene Heskett writes: > > On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: > > >> As slight change here, I was going to use the same .config as > > >> 2.6.24-rc8, but just discovered that neither rc8 nor final is finding > > >> the drivers for my > >

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Jeff Garzik
Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this build, but I'll be surprised if that's it. :) I think you mean

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread rgheck
Mark Lord wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: .. Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this build, but I'll be surprised if that's it. :)

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mikael Pettersson
Gene Heskett writes: > On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: > >> As slight change here, I was going to use the same .config as 2.6.24-rc8, > >> but just discovered that neither rc8 nor final is finding the drivers for > >> my > > > >If it is not finding a driver that is nothing to do

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >>.. >> Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number >> when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that >> says something about using the bios for device access this build, but

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: .. Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this build, but I'll be surprised if that's it. :) .. It should

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
> As slight change here, I was going to use the same .config as 2.6.24-rc8, but > just discovered that neither rc8 nor final is finding the drivers for my If it is not finding a driver that is nothing to do with libata. It means it's not being loaded by the distribution, or the distribution

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Florian Attenberger wrote: >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:13:21 -0500 > >Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I had to reboot early this morning due to a freezeup, and I had a >> >> bunch of these in the messages log: >> >> == >> >> Jan 27 19:42:11 coyote

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: >> not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, >> say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. > >We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for >the most part boil down to > >- error

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: >> not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, >> say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. > >We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for >the most part boil down to > >- error

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
> not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, > say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - error messages looking different - Most bugs I get are

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
As slight change here, I was going to use the same .config as 2.6.24-rc8, but just discovered that neither rc8 nor final is finding the drivers for my If it is not finding a driver that is nothing to do with libata. It means it's not being loaded by the distribution, or the distribution kernel

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mikael Pettersson
Gene Heskett writes: On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: As slight change here, I was going to use the same .config as 2.6.24-rc8, but just discovered that neither rc8 nor final is finding the drivers for my If it is not finding a driver that is nothing to do with libata.

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Mikael Pettersson wrote: Gene Heskett writes: On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: As slight change here, I was going to use the same .config as 2.6.24-rc8, but just discovered that neither rc8 nor final is finding the drivers for my If it is not

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Jeff Garzik
Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this build, but I'll be surprised if that's it. :) I think you mean

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread rgheck
Mark Lord wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: .. Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this build, but I'll be surprised if that's it. :)

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: .. Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this build, but I'll be

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: .. Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this build, but I'll be surprised if that's it. :) .. It should

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - error messages

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Florian Attenberger wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:13:21 -0500 Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to reboot early this morning due to a freezeup, and I had a bunch of these in the messages log: == Jan 27 19:42:11 coyote kernel:

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - error messages

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - error messages looking different - Most bugs I get are

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread rgheck
Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - sata_nv with 4GB of RAM, knowing

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
things in the kernel that refer to SCSI probably should say storage (or ATA, really, but that would make the acronyms confusing). SCSI is a command protocol. It is what your CD-ROM drive and USB storage devices talk (albeit with a bit of an accent). Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Adam Turk wrote: I just found this thread and it looks like it will fix my problem too. I have an IDE cd-rw drive and 2 SCSI hard drives. My ide cd-rw drive hasn't been showing up. I looked at setting scsi cdrom support (CONFIG_BLOCK_DEV_SR) but it doesn't mention

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: For starters, enable CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR. That could stand to be moved or renamed, it is well buried in the menu for the REAL scsi stuffs, which I don't have any of. Enabled building now. The SCSI

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: For starters, enable CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR. That could stand to be moved or renamed, it is well buried in the menu for the REAL scsi stuffs, which I don't have any of. Enabled building now. The SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM) section of

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Adam Turk
I just found this thread and it looks like it will fix my problem too. I have an IDE cd-rw drive and 2 SCSI hard drives. My ide cd-rw drive hasn't been showing up. I looked at setting scsi cdrom support (CONFIG_BLOCK_DEV_SR) but it doesn't mention anything about ide drives using libata. I

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Jeff Garzik
Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
Is this 4GB or =4GB? I've seen contradictory reports, and I've got 4GB. Depends how the memory is mapped. Any memory physically above the 4GB boundary Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: .. Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says something about using the bios for device access this

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
rgheck wrote: Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - sata_nv with 4GB of

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Alan Cox wrote: things in the kernel that refer to SCSI probably should say storage (or ATA, really, but that would make the acronyms confusing). SCSI is a command protocol. It is what your CD-ROM drive and USB storage devices talk (albeit with a bit of an accent).

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to - error

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Alan Cox wrote: The SCSI error reporting really ought to include a simple interpretation of the error for end users (The drive doesn't support this command A sector's data got lost The drive timed out The drive failed The drive is entirely gone). There's too much

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
I've seen a lot of verbosity out of SCSI messages, but I haven't seen a straightforward interpretation of the problem in there. It's all information useful for debugging, not information useful for system administration. It tells you what is going on. Unfortunately that frequently requires

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
That could stand to be moved or renamed, it is well buried in the menu for the REAL scsi stuffs, which I don't have any of. Yes you do - USB storage and ATAPI are SCSI -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Does anyone know why my dvdwriter isn't being assigned a '/dev/sdx' number when dmesg says its found ok at ata2.00? I've turned on an option that says

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread rgheck
Mark Lord wrote: rgheck wrote: Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil down to -

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
rgheck wrote: Mark Lord wrote: rgheck wrote: Alan Cox wrote: not one problem but lots---is sufficiently widespread that a Mini HOWTO, say, would be really welcome and, I'm guessing, widely used. We don't see very many libata problems at the distro level and they for the most part boil

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
The SCSI error reporting really ought to include a simple interpretation of the error for end users (The drive doesn't support this command A sector's data got lost The drive timed out The drive failed The drive is entirely gone). There's too much similarity between the message you get

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 January 2008, Alan Cox wrote: That could stand to be moved or renamed, it is well buried in the menu for the REAL scsi stuffs, which I don't have any of. Yes you do - USB storage and ATAPI are SCSI By the linux software definition maybe. But I've defined scsi as that which uses

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Alan Cox
By the linux software definition maybe. But I've defined scsi as that which uses a 50 wire cable using 50 contact centronics connectors since the mid '70's, and which often needs a ready supply of nubile virgins t 25, 50 or 68, with multiple voltage levels, plus of course it might be over

RE: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Adam Turk
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if this works then it really needs to move and be renamed. I am compiling with DEV_SR set. That fixed me right up, Adam, k3b is once again as happy as a clam. Fixed it for me too. I just realized the default config in 2.6.24 is way different than the default config

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: I doubt libata has that capability now, or ever will, cuz these ide/atapi devices are generally dumber than rocks about that. But any device claiming to be scsi-II is supposed to be able to do those sorts of things while the cpu is off crunching numbers for BOINC or

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Florian Attenberger
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:13:21 -0500 Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I had to reboot early this morning due to a freezeup, and I had a > >> bunch of these in the messages log: > >> == > >> Jan 27 19:42:11 coyote kernel: [42461.915961] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 > >> SAct

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:31:57PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > In my script, its one line: > mkinitrd -f initrd-$VER.img $VER && \ > > where $VER is the shell variable I edit to = the version number, located at > the top of the script. > > Unforch, its failing: > No module pata_amd found

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Kasper Sandberg
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 23:49 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 January 2008, Kasper Sandberg wrote: > [...] > > > >I can invalidate this theory... > >i helped a guy on irc debug this problem, and he had ati. I tried having > >him stop using fglrx, and go to r300.. same problem, and same

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Kasper Sandberg wrote: [...] >> >We have no way of debugging that module, so please try 2.6.24 without it. >> >> Sorry, I can't do this and have a working machine. The nv driver has >> suffered bit rot or something since the FC2 days when it COULD run a 19" >> crt at

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Kasper Sandberg
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 11:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 January 2008, Mikael Pettersson wrote: > >Gene Heskett writes: > > > On Monday 28 January 2008, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > >On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 09:17 +0100, Mikael Pettersson wrote: > > > >> 1. Wrong mailing list; use

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >.. > >> That's ok, dd seemed to do the job also. > >.. > >The two programs operate entirely differently from each other, >so it may still be worth trying the make_bad_sector utility there. > >dd goes through the regular kernel I/O

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 January 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 January 2008, Robert Hancock wrote: [...] Check the /etc/modprobe.conf file, a lot of distributions use this to generate the initrd. If there's references to pata_amd it'll try and include it. Bingo! Thanks

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: .. That's ok, dd seemed to do the job also. .. The two programs operate entirely differently from each other, so it may still be worth trying the make_bad_sector utility there. dd goes through the regular kernel I/O calls, whereas make_bad_sector sends raw ATA commands

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Monday 28 January 2008, Robert Hancock wrote: >[...] > >>Check the /etc/modprobe.conf file, a lot of distributions use this to >>generate the initrd. If there's references to pata_amd it'll try and >>include it. > >Bingo! Thanks Robert, I'll try

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 January 2008, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Monday 28 January 2008, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > >> >Building this and installing it along with the appropriate initrd (which > >> >might be handled by

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Robert Hancock wrote: [...] >Check the /etc/modprobe.conf file, a lot of distributions use this to >generate the initrd. If there's references to pata_amd it'll try and >include it. Bingo! Thanks Robert, I'll try it again with that line commented. I wasn't aware of

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Daniel Barkalow wrote: >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 28 January 2008, Daniel Barkalow wrote: >> >Building this and installing it along with the appropriate initrd (which >> >might be handled by Fedora's install scripts) >> >> Or mine, which I've

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Robert Hancock
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 January 2008, Robert Hancock wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: And so far no one has tried to comment on those 2 dmesg lines I've quoted a couple of times now, here's another: [0.00] Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. [0.00] If you

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Robert Hancock wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> And so far no one has tried to comment on those 2 dmesg lines I've quoted >> a couple of times now, here's another: >> [0.00] Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. >> [0.00] If you got timer

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 January 2008, Daniel Barkalow wrote: > >Building this and installing it along with the appropriate initrd (which > >might be handled by Fedora's install scripts) > > Or mine, which I've been using for years. You're ahead of a surprising

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Robert Hancock
Gene Heskett wrote: And so far no one has tried to comment on those 2 dmesg lines I've quoted a couple of times now, here's another: [0.00] Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. [0.00] If you got timer trouble try acpi_use_timer_override what the heck is that

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >>.. >> And so far no one has tried to comment on those 2 dmesg lines I've quoted >> a couple of times now, here's another: >> [0.00] Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. >> [0.00] If you got timer

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 28 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: >>.. >> >>> Another way is to use the "make_bad_sector" utility that >>> is included in the source tarball for hdparm-7.7, as follows: >>> >>> make_bad_sector --readback /dev/sda

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Daniel Barkalow wrote: >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Richard Heck wrote: >> Daniel Barkalow wrote: >> > Can you switch back to old IDE to get your work done (and to make sure >> > it's not a hardware issue that's developed recently)? >> >> I think it'd be really, REALLY helpful

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 28 January 2008, Mark Lord wrote: .. Another way is to use the "make_bad_sector" utility that is included in the source tarball for hdparm-7.7, as follows: make_bad_sector --readback /dev/sda 474507 Apparently not in the rpm, darnit. .. That's okay. It

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Mark Lord
Mark Lord wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: .. And so far no one has tried to comment on those 2 dmesg lines I've quoted a couple of times now, here's another: [0.00] Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. [0.00] If you got timer trouble try acpi_use_timer_override what

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Mark Lord
Gene Heskett wrote: .. And so far no one has tried to comment on those 2 dmesg lines I've quoted a couple of times now, here's another: [0.00] Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. [0.00] If you got timer trouble try acpi_use_timer_override what the heck is that

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Richard Heck wrote: > Daniel Barkalow wrote: > > Can you switch back to old IDE to get your work done (and to make sure it's > > not a hardware issue that's developed recently)? > I think it'd be really, REALLY helpful to a lot of people if you, or someone, > could explain

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Richard Heck
Andrey Borzenkov wrote: Richard Heck wrote: Daniel Barkalow wrote: Can you switch back to old IDE to get your work done (and to make sure it's not a hardware issue that's developed recently)? I think it'd be really, REALLY helpful to a lot of people if you, or someone, could

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Andrey Borzenkov wrote: >On Monday 28 January 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 28 January 2008, Andrey Borzenkov wrote: >> >Richard Heck wrote: >> >> Daniel Barkalow wrote: >> >>> Can you switch back to old IDE to get your work done (and to make sure >> >>> it's

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Monday 28 January 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 January 2008, Andrey Borzenkov wrote: > >Richard Heck wrote: > >> Daniel Barkalow wrote: > >>> Can you switch back to old IDE to get your work done (and to make sure > >>> it's not a hardware issue that's developed recently)? > >> > >>

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greeting; >> >> I had to reboot early this morning due to a freezeup, and I had a >> bunch of these in the messages log: >> == >> Jan 27 19:42:11 coyote kernel: [42461.915961] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 >> SAct 0x0

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 January 2008, Andrey Borzenkov wrote: >Richard Heck wrote: >> Daniel Barkalow wrote: >>> Can you switch back to old IDE to get your work done (and to make sure >>> it's not a hardware issue that's developed recently)? >> >> I think it'd be really, REALLY helpful to a lot of people if

Re: Problem with ata layer in 2.6.24

2008-01-28 Thread Jeff Garzik
Gene Heskett wrote: Greeting; I had to reboot early this morning due to a freezeup, and I had a bunch of these in the messages log: == Jan 27 19:42:11 coyote kernel: [42461.915961] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Jan 27 19:42:11 coyote kernel:

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