Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-27 Thread ira.weiny
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 02:53:37PM +, Liran Liss wrote: > > From: ira.weiny [mailto:ira.we...@intel.com] > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > 2)The name rdma_tech_* is lame. > > > > rdma_transport_*(), adhering to the above (*) remark, is much better. > > > > For example, both IB and ROCE *do* use t

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-27 Thread ira.weiny
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 02:44:29PM +, Liran Liss wrote: > > From: Michael Wang [mailto:yun.w...@profitbricks.com] > > > > [snip] > > > > > > Depends on who is "we". > > > For ULPs, you are probably right. > > > > > > However, core services (e.g., mad management, CM, SA) do care about > > vari

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-27 Thread ira.weiny
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:42:26AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 03:00:15PM +, Liran Liss wrote: > > > Currently, the only code in the kernel that has an SMI interface is IB. > > When OPA is introduced, add the proper helper. > > We already have tests checking for SM

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-24 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 03:00:15PM +, Liran Liss wrote: > Currently, the only code in the kernel that has an SMI interface is IB. > When OPA is introduced, add the proper helper. We already have tests checking for SMI is supported so QP0 can be created, this is to support ROCEE > All I am s

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-24 Thread Michael Wang
On 04/24/2015 04:44 PM, Liran Liss wrote: >> From: Michael Wang [mailto:yun.w...@profitbricks.com] > > >> [snip] [snip] >> > > We don't want to stop code branches that are not abstractions but rather > depend > on the specific technology! > There is no generic "iWARP CM" - only one. > There i

RE: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-24 Thread Liran Liss
> From: Hefty, Sean [mailto:sean.he...@intel.com] [snip] > > > So, I think that our "old-transport" below is just fine. > > > No need to change it (and you aren't, since it is currently > > > implemented > > as a function). > > > > I think there is a need to change this. Encoding the transport in

RE: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-24 Thread Liran Liss
> From: Michael Wang [mailto:yun.w...@profitbricks.com] > [snip] > > > > Depends on who is "we". > > For ULPs, you are probably right. > > > > However, core services (e.g., mad management, CM, SA) do care about > various details. > > In some cases, where it doesn't matter, this code will use mana

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-23 Thread Michael Wang
On 04/22/2015 07:10 PM, ira.weiny wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:59:52AM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: >> On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 23:36 +, Liran Liss wrote: > > [snip] > >>> >>> 2)The name rdma_tech_* is lame. >>> rdma_transport_*(), adhering to the above (*) remark, is much better. >>> For

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-23 Thread Michael Wang
On 04/22/2015 06:57 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:59:52AM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: > >>> 2)The name rdma_tech_* is lame. >>> rdma_transport_*(), adhering to the above (*) remark, is much better. >>> For example, both IB and ROCE *do* use the same transport. >> >> I e

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-23 Thread Michael Wang
On 04/22/2015 06:16 PM, Liran Liss wrote: [snip] > > Depends on who is "we". > For ULPs, you are probably right. > > However, core services (e.g., mad management, CM, SA) do care about various > details. > In some cases, where it doesn't matter, this code will use management helpers. > In othe

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread ira.weiny
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:59:52AM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: > On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 23:36 +, Liran Liss wrote: [snip] > > > > 2)The name rdma_tech_* is lame. > > rdma_transport_*(), adhering to the above (*) remark, is much better. > > For example, both IB and ROCE *do* use the same transp

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:59:52AM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote: > > 2)The name rdma_tech_* is lame. > > rdma_transport_*(), adhering to the above (*) remark, is much better. > > For example, both IB and ROCE *do* use the same transport. > > I especially want to second this. I haven't really been

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
On Apr 21, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Liran Liss wrote: > An ib_dev (or a port of) should be distinguished by 3 qualifiers: > - The link layer: > -- Ethernet (shared by iWARP, USNIC, and ROCE) > -- Infiniband > > - The transport (*) > -- IBTA transport (shared by IB and ROCE) > -- iWARP transport > -- US

RE: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Hefty, Sean
> > So, I think that our "old-transport" below is just fine. > > No need to change it (and you aren't, since it is currently implemented > as a function). > > I think there is a need to change this. Encoding the transport into the > node > type is not a good idea. Having different "transport sem

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:38:34AM +, Liran Liss wrote: > This is redundant. All IB ports have SMI, so if you know that you > are using an IB device, you know you have an SMI. You should really go back and read the whole thread, this has already been discussed. The patch set was developed fr

RE: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Liran Liss
> From: Michael Wang [mailto:yun.w...@profitbricks.com] > > Hi, Liran > > Thanks for the comment :-) > > On 04/22/2015 01:36 AM, Liran Liss wrote: > [snip] > > > > (**) This has been extended to also encode the transport in the current > code. > > At least for user-space visible APIs, we might c

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Doug Ledford
On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 23:36 +, Liran Liss wrote: > Hi Michael, > > The spirit of this patch-set is great, but I think that we need to clarify > some concepts. > Since this will affect the whole patch-set, I am laying out my concerns here > instead. > > A suggestion for the resulting managem

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Michael Wang
On 04/22/2015 04:41 AM, ira.weiny wrote: [snip] > >> >> 5) Do no modify phys_state_show() in [PATCH v5 09/27] IB/Verbs: Reform >> IB-core verbs/uverbs_cmd/sysfs >> It *is* the link layer! > > I agree with this. When the Link Layer is directly being requested we should > report the link layer.

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Michael Wang
Hi, Liran Thanks for the comment :-) On 04/22/2015 01:36 AM, Liran Liss wrote: [snip] > > (**) This has been extended to also encode the transport in the current code. > At least for user-space visible APIs, we might chose to leave this for > backward compatibility, but we can consider cleaning

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-22 Thread Michael Wang
On 04/22/2015 02:28 AM, ira.weiny wrote: [snip] >> >> Highlights: >> The patch set covered a wide range of IB stuff, thus for those who are >> familiar with the particular part, your suggestion would be invaluable >> ;-) >> >> Patch 1#~15# included all the logical reform, 16#~25# int

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-21 Thread ira.weiny
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:36:40PM +, Liran Liss wrote: > Hi Michael, > > The spirit of this patch-set is great, but I think that we need to clarify > some concepts. > Since this will affect the whole patch-set, I am laying out my concerns here > instead. > > A suggestion for the resulting

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-21 Thread ira.weiny
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:28:57AM +0200, Michael Wang wrote: > > Since v4: > * Thanks for the comments from Hal, Sean, Tom, Or Gerlitz, Jason, > Roland, Ira and Steve :-) Please remind me if anything missed :-P > * Fix logical issue inside 3#, 14# > * Refine 3#, 4#, 5# with label 'free'

RE: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-21 Thread Liran Liss
Hi Michael, The spirit of this patch-set is great, but I think that we need to clarify some concepts. Since this will affect the whole patch-set, I am laying out my concerns here instead. A suggestion for the resulting management helpers is given below. I believe the result would be much more c

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Wang
ernel.org; h...@dev.mellanox.co.il >> Cc: Tom Tucker; Steve Wise; Hoang-Nam Nguyen; Christoph Raisch; Mike >> Marciniszyn; Eli Cohen; Faisal Latif; Jack Morgenstein; Or Gerlitz; Haggai >> Eran; >> Ira Weiny; Tom Talpey; Jason Gunthorpe; Doug Ledford >> Subject: Re: [PA

RE: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-21 Thread Devesh Sharma
Cohen; Faisal Latif; Jack Morgenstein; Or Gerlitz; Haggai > Eran; > Ira Weiny; Tom Talpey; Jason Gunthorpe; Doug Ledford > Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers > > Hi, Devesh > > On 04/21/2015 07:41 AM, Devesh Sharma wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > &

Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-21 Thread Michael Wang
Hi, Devesh On 04/21/2015 07:41 AM, Devesh Sharma wrote: > Hi Michael, > > is there a specific git branch available to pull out all the patches? Not yet, we may need the maintainer to tell us which branch could the series been applied for testing purpose, after we all satisfied :-) For now we co

RE: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers

2015-04-20 Thread Devesh Sharma
Hi Michael, is there a specific git branch available to pull out all the patches? -Regards Devesh > -Original Message- > From: linux-rdma-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-rdma- > ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wang > Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:59 PM > To: Roland Dreie