Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-10-13 Thread Mark Hahn
message -- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:24:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Linux Kernel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux. In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > him, but he has cut off all commutations. So starting

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-29 Thread James H. Cloos Jr.
> "Erik" == Erik Mouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Erik> I have taken the role as flame fighter and I have written a Erik> summary which you can read at: Erik> http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/flamewar.txt There is one small problem with the solution advocated at the end of that page. Th

RE: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-28 Thread Erik Mouw
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:58:35 -0700, Howell, David P wrote: > My 2 cents. > > I don't read this mail list for this type of rubbish either. The technical > detail of this thread is all that seems appropriate here, not the issue > between George and Russell. I'd be embarrassed if I were either of

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-28 Thread Russell King
Howell, David P writes: > I don't read this mail list for this type of rubbish either. The technical > detail of this thread is all that seems appropriate here, not the issue > between George and Russell. I'd be embarrassed if I were either of them, > the way that they have presented themselves

RE: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-28 Thread Howell, David P
rance Cc: Linux Kernel Subject: Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux. Well, this sucks. I am not sure how you both came to this impass, but it really is quite unacceptable. I think there are several problems here: No maintainer should cut off contribution from an entire company to a platfor

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-28 Thread Jeff Garzik
On 28 Sep 2000, Jes Sorensen wrote: > > "George" == George France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > George> Eric Mouw from the LART group will be posting the whole thing > George> in a little while. > Is there a reason why this obviously personal fight between you and > Russell needs to be mediat

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-28 Thread Jes Sorensen
> "George" == George France <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: George> Eric Mouw from the LART group will be posting the whole thing George> in a little while. Is there a reason why this obviously personal fight between you and Russell needs to be mediated/judged by linux-kernel? Jes - To unsubscr

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Alexander Viro
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Miles Lane wrote: > Perhaps the Linux community should draft up some > guidelines for the job of maintainer that would include > some mechanism for replacing a maintainer who is not > effectively shepherding his port. Since when it is decided by community? It's not a democ

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Miles Lane
Well, this sucks. I am not sure how you both came to this impass, but it really is quite unacceptable. I think there are several problems here: No maintainer should cut off contribution from an entire company to a platform it intends to help support and implement. Usually these kin

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Erik Mouw
Russell King writes: > George France writes: [snip] OK, so the flamewar landed over here. I have taken the role as flame fighter and I have written a summary which you can read at: http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/flamewar.txt We are currently trying to solve this issue privately, so the

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Mark Hahn
> him, but he has cut off all commutations. So starting tomorrow, we will be > submitting patches directly to the kernel mailing list, since Russell will uh, this will be unpleasantly familiar to anyone who was reading the linux-usb mailing list in Dec 99, when George said, roughly "you are all s

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Mike Touloumtzis
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 02:30:13PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > For what it's worth, the SA1100 serial driver has been registered with > me on the Low-Density Serial Ports major (204) as /dev/ttySA0-2 (minor > 5-7). > > Russ is 100% correct that different drivers shouldn't use the > same dev

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Philipp Rumpf
On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 02:30:13PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Russ is 100% correct that different drivers shouldn't use the > same device numbers, unless they are: > > a) mutually exclusive, > b) interface compatible, *AND* > c) handle all arbitration necessary. This doesn't handle the watch

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Alan Cox
> heh. It'd go along very well with the current /.post: > Kernel Fork for Big Iron? > Posted by Hemos on Wednesday > September 27, @04:01PM > from the what-to-do dept. > (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/09/27/191243&mode=thread) > > *sigh* It amuses me tha

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Eli Carter
Dan Hollis wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Russell King wrote: > > Alan Cox writes: > > > So is there a URL with the whole discussion on. It looks like a fun read ? > > Have a look at the linux-arm-kernel archive at > > http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/ > > for the thread

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > Alan Cox writes: > > > now. IMHO, today he lost it, declaring that he was going to block all > > > e-mails from Compaq, which means he can not recieve any more ARM Linux > > > patche

RE: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread George France
Hello Mike; > Ok. I didn't mean to imply anything.. It just wasn't clear, and > due to the nature of the discussion, it seemed that it might have > been a private message.. > No problem. I should have took more time in writing my e-mail and inserted the headers. Best Regards, --George - T

RE: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Mike A. Harris
;Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Subject: RE: Russell King forks ARM Linux. > >Relax. Russel posted this to a public mailing list. Ok. I didn't mean to imply anything.. It just wasn't clear, and due to the nature of the discussion, it s

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Russell King wrote: > Alan Cox writes: > > So is there a URL with the whole discussion on. It looks like a fun read ? > Have a look at the linux-arm-kernel archive at > http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/ > for the thread: > Re: information request abou

RE: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread George France
Eric Mouw from the LART group will be posting the whole thing in a little while. Patience. --George > -Original Message- > From: Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject

RE: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread George France
Relax. Russel posted this to a public mailing list. --George > If that was a personal email from him to you (ie: not public) > then it was very distasteful and disrespectful of you to post it > here publically. You should have at least quoted the header > lines to make it clear... > > Just my

RE: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread George France
Russell; > > George France writes: > > As you probably know Russell King is the maintainer of ARM > Linux. Him and I > > have been debating how serial ports should be handled on an > off for months > > now. IMHO, today he lost it, > > Please note that at every instance, George has totally >

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Russell King
Alan Cox writes: > > now. IMHO, today he lost it, declaring that he was going to block all > > e-mails from Compaq, which means he can not recieve any more ARM Linux > > patches from us. I have tried every method that I know of, to work with > > So is there a URL with the whole discussion on. It

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, George France wrote: >Greetings; > >As you probably know Russell King is the maintainer of ARM Linux. Him and I >have been debating how serial ports should be handled on an off for months >now. IMHO, today he lost it, declaring that he was going to block all >e-mails from Co

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Alan Cox
> now. IMHO, today he lost it, declaring that he was going to block all > e-mails from Compaq, which means he can not recieve any more ARM Linux > patches from us. I have tried every method that I know of, to work with So is there a URL with the whole discussion on. It looks like a fun read ? >

Re: Russell King forks ARM Linux.

2000-09-27 Thread Russell King
George France writes: > As you probably know Russell King is the maintainer of ARM Linux. Him and I > have been debating how serial ports should be handled on an off for months > now. IMHO, today he lost it, Please note that at every instance, George has totally ignored my suggestions and advice