Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-06 Thread Johannes Berg
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 07:59 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > (depending on whether we want to accomodate Debian's glacial > release schedule). I don't think Debian updates the kernel to some actual newer version either. johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:39:00PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > Ok, I only named HAL as that is what people have told me the problem is. > I have been running this change on my boxs, without > CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED since last July or so. > > But I don't use NetworkManager here for the most part, but

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:17:09 -0800 Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 05:08:49PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:56:25 -0500 > > Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > So the question really is are we really done making changes to sysfs, >

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 05:08:49PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:56:25 -0500 > Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So the question really is are we really done making changes to sysfs, > > or maybe what we should do is talk about major version numbers to > > sysfs.

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 07:56:25PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:37:15PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > But I AM TRYING TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE!!! > > > > That's what that config option is there for. If you happen to be > > running a newer userspace, a different distro than wha

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:56:25 -0500 Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the question really is are we really done making changes to sysfs, > or maybe what we should do is talk about major version numbers to > sysfs. Perhaps using a config option wasn't the right way to do this - a kernel b

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Theodore Tso
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:37:15PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > But I AM TRYING TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE!!! > > That's what that config option is there for. If you happen to be > running a newer userspace, a different distro than what is in Debian > right now, or don't use HAL and Networkmanager, then di

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:24:57AM +1100, Bron Gondwana wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:14:25PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > That's not the point. The point is that Debian/unstable as of _this > > > > morning_ doesn't work.

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:14:25PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > That's not the point. The point is that Debian/unstable as of _this > > > morning_ doesn't work. For reference, I'm running both the latest > > > releases of both hal

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Jeffrey Hundstad
Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 07:59:50AM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: Ok, how about the following patch. Is it acceptable to everyone? thanks, greg k-h --- init/Kconfig | 13 +++-- 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- gregkh-2.6.orig/init/Kconfig +++ gre

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:55:30PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > Ok, how about the following patch. Is it acceptable to everyone? > > > > - If you are using a distro that was released in 2006 or later, > > - it should be safe to

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Joel Becker
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:13:26AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > That's not the point. The point is that Debian/unstable as of _this > > morning_ doesn't work. For reference, I'm running both the latest > > releases of both hal (0.5.8

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Matt Mackall
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:46:09PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > That's not the point. The point is that Debian/unstable as of _this > > morning_ doesn't work. For reference, I'm running both the latest > > releases of both hal (0.5.8.1-6.1) and network-manager (0.6.4-6). And > > there are people

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Matt Mackall
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:58:13AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > Ok, how about the following patch. Is it acceptable to everyone? > > - If you are using a distro that was released in 2006 or later, > - it should be safe to say N here. > + If you are using an OpenSuSE, Gentoo, Ubuntu,

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 07:59:50AM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:17:29PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > I should not have broken any userspace if CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is > > enabled with that patch. If that is enabled, and that patch still > > causes problems, please let me

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 01:13:26AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:02:48PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:42:29AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600,

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Theodore Tso
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:17:29PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > I should not have broken any userspace if CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is > enabled with that patch. If that is enabled, and that patch still > causes problems, please let me know. But we still need to update the help text for CONFIG_SYS_DEPRE

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-05 Thread Johannes Berg
On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 17:17 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > This is due to the recent sysfs restructuring I think. IIRC the fix is > > > to upgrade hal to a current git version. > > > > If that's the cause, the fix is to back out whatever was done to break > > userspace. Breaking userspace is not ok.

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Matt Mackall
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:02:48PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:42:29AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > > > Recent kernels are having troubles with w

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:42:29AM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly > > > related problems: > > > > >

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Matt Mackall
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly > > related problems: > > > > a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200 > > b)

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 06:25:50PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: > > [adding linux-wireless to CC] > > > > On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seeming

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:08:57PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly > related problems: > > a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200 > b) Manual iwconfig waits for 60s and then reports: > > Error for wirele

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 04:45:25PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:25:50 -0600 Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: > > > [adding linux-wireless to CC] > > > > > > On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt M

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Andrew Morton
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:25:50 -0600 Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: > > [adding linux-wireless to CC] > > > > On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Ian McDonald
On 3/5/07, Matt Mackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is due to the recent sysfs restructuring I think. IIRC the fix is > to upgrade hal to a current git version. If that's the cause, the fix is to back out whatever was done to break userspace. Breaking userspace is not ok. Upgrading from 2.

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Matt Mackall
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:39:24AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: > [adding linux-wireless to CC] > > On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly > > related problems: > > I don't think they are related actually. >

Re: Recent wireless breakage (ipw2200, iwconfig, NetworkManager)

2007-03-04 Thread Johannes Berg
[adding linux-wireless to CC] On Sun, 2007-03-04 at 16:08 -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > Recent kernels are having troubles with wireless for me. Two seemingly > related problems: I don't think they are related actually. > a) NetworkManager seems oblivious to the existence of my IPW2200 This is d