Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-27 Thread Ookhoi
Hi Maciej Zenczykowski, > This is happening on a freshly installed RH7.1 notebook. > Celeron 400 + 64 mb ram, kernel as shipped (2.4.2-2, have not even > recompiled it yet). I have a 140 mb swap partition set up but at the time > this happened it was OFF. I was (still am) running X + twm + two

Re: [OT] Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-26 Thread john slee
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 06:32:16PM +0200, Daniel Phillips wrote: > On Monday 25 June 2001 18:16, Colonel wrote: > > Had you tried fvwm-1.24r (the original) ? It was designed long ago to > > be lean and fast on the desktop. I know it whips KDE. > > Yes, I did. It's even faster than xfce but the

Re: [OT] Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-25 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Monday 25 June 2001 18:16, Colonel wrote: > In clouddancer.list.kernel, you wrote: > >Further to that, I followed Alan's lead and installed xfce. My laptop, > > which was really suffering under Gnome with 64 meg (much more so under > > KDE) is suddenly light on its feet. Not to mention that i

Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-25 Thread Mike Galbraith
On 25 Jun 2001, Xavier Bestel wrote: > On 24 Jun 2001 22:36:25 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > recompiled it yet). I have a 140 mb swap partition set up but at the time > > > this happened it was OFF. I was (still am) running X + twm + two xterms > > > > > > top gives me: > > > mem: 62144k av, 611

Re: [OT] Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-25 Thread Colonel
In clouddancer.list.kernel, you wrote: > >Further to that, I followed Alan's lead and installed xfce. My laptop, which >was really suffering under Gnome with 64 meg (much more so under KDE) is >suddenly light on its feet. Not to mention that it built from source in >under 10 minutes and insta

[OT] Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-25 Thread Daniel Phillips
On Monday 25 June 2001 11:21, Helge Hafting wrote: > If it still is too slow - add RAM or run fewer/smaller apps. > Opera is a low-memory alternative to netscape. Avoiding > gnome/kde apps when plain X apps are available is also a good idea > when you're short on memory. Using low resolution and

Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-25 Thread Helge Hafting
Maciej Zenczykowski wrote: > Now my question is how can it be > thrashing with swap explicitly turned off? Easy. Linux throws executables out from memory because they _can_ be fetched again from disk. Yes - this definitely gives trashing if you loose almost all your executables this way. > [o

Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-25 Thread Xavier Bestel
On 24 Jun 2001 22:36:25 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > recompiled it yet). I have a 140 mb swap partition set up but at the time > > this happened it was OFF. I was (still am) running X + twm + two xterms > > > > top gives me: > > mem: 62144k av, 61180k used, 956k free, 0k shrd, 76 buff, 2636 cache

Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-24 Thread Alan Cox
> recompiled it yet). I have a 140 mb swap partition set up but at the time > this happened it was OFF. I was (still am) running X + twm + two xterms > > top gives me: > mem: 62144k av, 61180k used, 956k free, 0k shrd, 76 buff, 2636 cached > swap: 0k av, 0k used, 0k free [as expected] Not as e

Re: Thrashing WITHOUT swap.

2001-06-24 Thread Jonathan Morton
>Now my question is how can it be >thrashing with swap explicitly turned off? Easy. All applications are themselves swap space - the binary is merely memory-mapped onto the executable file. When the system gets low on memory, the only thing it can do is purge some binary pages, and then repe