Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Robert Hancock
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 09:58:21AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Enhanced mode means separate SATA and PATA. (I recommend avoiding the "IDE" acronym, it is largely meaningless and confusing these days) Good idea. We're talking about Linux here. Linux regularly supports

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Prakash Punnoor
Am Mittwoch 10 Januar 2007 19:19 schrieb Jeff Garzik: > Prakash Punnoor wrote: > > Intel wants you to buy hw with ICH8R. ICH8 isn't get the advanced > > features for free > > What advanced features do you claim are missing from ICH8? I don't claim anything. Intel does. I know that the chip is

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: No doubt part of the Wintel (intel + Microsoft) strategy to perpetually break non-windows platforms with new incompatible hardware like the switch over from the e1000 MT adapters to e1000 GT which are not backward compatible with the older chipsets. I presume you mean

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Prakash Punnoor wrote: Am Mittwoch 10 Januar 2007 18:47 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:29:28PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: You can install the Intel Matrix driver after "adjusting" the inf file... Hmm, I guess a good question is: Why should I have to edit the inf file?

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:56:05PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: > Intel wants you to buy hw with ICH8R. ICH8 isn't get the advanced features > for > free But the BIOS has AHCI mode as an option. I don't want their fake raid, just ahci. That isn't an advanced feature, it is native mode.

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:25:52AM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > No doubt part of the Wintel (intel + Microsoft) strategy to perpetually > break non-windows platforms with new incompatible > hardware like the switch over from the e1000 MT adapters to e1000 GT > which are not backward compatible

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Prakash Punnoor
Am Mittwoch 10 Januar 2007 18:47 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:29:28PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: > > You can install the Intel Matrix driver after "adjusting" the inf file... > > Hmm, I guess a good question is: Why should I have to edit the inf file? > Is it an issue

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:29:28PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: You can install the Intel Matrix driver after "adjusting" the inf file... Hmm, I guess a good question is: Why should I have to edit the inf file? Is it an issue of them making it only install if

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:29:28PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: > You can install the Intel Matrix driver after "adjusting" the inf file... Hmm, I guess a good question is: Why should I have to edit the inf file? Is it an issue of them making it only install if your hardware is already set to

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Prakash Punnoor
Am Mittwoch 10 Januar 2007 15:39 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: > I tried setting my sister's new machine to AHCI mode (Asus P5B with 965 > chipset), but I eventually gave up since it also needed windows xp on it > and I can't for the life of me find an AHCI driver for windows that > would install.

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 09:58:21AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Enhanced mode means separate SATA and PATA. > > (I recommend avoiding the "IDE" acronym, it is largely meaningless and > confusing these days) Good idea. > We're talking about Linux here. Linux regularly supports hardware >

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:25:00PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Combined mode is a technical term. Judging from your answers, you are not using combined mode. I would have thought 'sata 3.0 + IDE' sounded a lot like combined mode, unless it means seperate sata and ide.

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:25:00PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Combined mode is a technical term. Judging from your answers, you are > not using combined mode. I would have thought 'sata 3.0 + IDE' sounded a lot like combined mode, unless it means seperate sata and ide. > Judging from your

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:25:00PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Combined mode is a technical term. Judging from your answers, you are not using combined mode. I would have thought 'sata 3.0 + IDE' sounded a lot like combined mode, unless it means seperate sata and ide. Judging from your

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 07:25:00PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Combined mode is a technical term. Judging from your answers, you are not using combined mode. I would have thought 'sata 3.0 + IDE' sounded a lot like combined mode, unless it means seperate sata and ide.

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 09:58:21AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Enhanced mode means separate SATA and PATA. (I recommend avoiding the IDE acronym, it is largely meaningless and confusing these days) Good idea. We're talking about Linux here. Linux regularly supports hardware before

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Prakash Punnoor
Am Mittwoch 10 Januar 2007 15:39 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: I tried setting my sister's new machine to AHCI mode (Asus P5B with 965 chipset), but I eventually gave up since it also needed windows xp on it and I can't for the life of me find an AHCI driver for windows that would install. You

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:29:28PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: You can install the Intel Matrix driver after adjusting the inf file... Hmm, I guess a good question is: Why should I have to edit the inf file? Is it an issue of them making it only install if your hardware is already set to ahci

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:29:28PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: You can install the Intel Matrix driver after adjusting the inf file... Hmm, I guess a good question is: Why should I have to edit the inf file? Is it an issue of them making it only install if

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Prakash Punnoor
Am Mittwoch 10 Januar 2007 18:47 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:29:28PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: You can install the Intel Matrix driver after adjusting the inf file... Hmm, I guess a good question is: Why should I have to edit the inf file? Is it an issue of them

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:25:52AM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: No doubt part of the Wintel (intel + Microsoft) strategy to perpetually break non-windows platforms with new incompatible hardware like the switch over from the e1000 MT adapters to e1000 GT which are not backward compatible

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:56:05PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: Intel wants you to buy hw with ICH8R. ICH8 isn't get the advanced features for free But the BIOS has AHCI mode as an option. I don't want their fake raid, just ahci. That isn't an advanced feature, it is native mode. :)

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: No doubt part of the Wintel (intel + Microsoft) strategy to perpetually break non-windows platforms with new incompatible hardware like the switch over from the e1000 MT adapters to e1000 GT which are not backward compatible with the older chipsets. I presume you mean

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
Prakash Punnoor wrote: Am Mittwoch 10 Januar 2007 18:47 schrieb Lennart Sorensen: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:29:28PM +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: You can install the Intel Matrix driver after adjusting the inf file... Hmm, I guess a good question is: Why should I have to edit the inf file?

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Prakash Punnoor
Am Mittwoch 10 Januar 2007 19:19 schrieb Jeff Garzik: Prakash Punnoor wrote: Intel wants you to buy hw with ICH8R. ICH8 isn't get the advanced features for free What advanced features do you claim are missing from ICH8? I don't claim anything. Intel does. I know that the chip is

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-10 Thread Robert Hancock
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 09:58:21AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Enhanced mode means separate SATA and PATA. (I recommend avoiding the IDE acronym, it is largely meaningless and confusing these days) Good idea. We're talking about Linux here. Linux regularly supports

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Jeff Garzik wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:46:42PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Jeff Garzik wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds before liquifying in the

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds before liquifying in the chassis. I note that

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:46:42PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle > motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support > SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. > > The chip worked for about 30 seconds

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Auke Kok wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: root=/dev/hda2 is what was passed to the kernel from grub. Jeff I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Auke Kok
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: root=/dev/hda2 is what was passed to the kernel from grub. Jeff I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: root=/dev/hda2 is what was passed to the kernel from grub. Jeff I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked

SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds before liquifying in the chassis. I note that the 945 chipset in the

SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds before liquifying in the chassis. I note that the 945 chipset in the

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: root=/dev/hda2 is what was passed to the kernel from grub. Jeff I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Auke Kok
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: root=/dev/hda2 is what was passed to the kernel from grub. Jeff I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Auke Kok wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: root=/dev/hda2 is what was passed to the kernel from grub. Jeff I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:46:42PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds before liquifying in the chassis. I note that

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Jeff Garzik wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds before liquifying in the

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:46:42PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked for about 30 seconds

Re: SATA/IDE Dual Mode w/Intel 945 Chipset or HOW TO LIQUIFY a flash IDE chip under 2.6.18

2007-01-09 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Jeff Garzik wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: Jeff V. Merkey wrote: I just finished pulling out a melted IDE flash drive out of a Shuttle motherboard with the intel 945 chipset which claims to support SATA and IDE drives concurrently under Linux 2.6.18. The chip worked