Hi.
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 21:36 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > But you're still likely to run into trouble if you unplug a storage
> > > device, move it to another system and write on it, then plug it back into
> > > the original system. The PLVM would somehow have to recognize that
Hi!
> > But you're still likely to run into trouble if you unplug a storage
> > device, move it to another system and write on it, then plug it back into
> > the original system. The PLVM would somehow have to recognize that the
> > data had been changed. I don't know a foolproof way of doing
Hi!
But you're still likely to run into trouble if you unplug a storage
device, move it to another system and write on it, then plug it back into
the original system. The PLVM would somehow have to recognize that the
data had been changed. I don't know a foolproof way of doing that.
Hi.
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 21:36 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
But you're still likely to run into trouble if you unplug a storage
device, move it to another system and write on it, then plug it back into
the original system. The PLVM would somehow have to recognize that the
data
On Monday, 2 April 2007 04:54, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sunday, 1 April 2007 20:34, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > > > Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
> > > > > attached just will not work.
Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Pavel Machek wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> The GNOME hath spoken?
> I also thought about that,
>
> I think that the best solution is still to hide connect/disconnect of
> usb devices from userspace (now it also causes corruption)
>
Hi!
> >Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass
> >storage devices
> >attached just will not work. User will unplug them,
> >then complain
> >about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work
> >with them
> >somewhere else, replug them, then loose filesystem.
> >
> >Feel free to
Pavel Machek wrote:
..
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
somewhere else, replug them, then loose filesystem.
Feel free to send patch
Pavel Machek wrote:
..
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
somewhere else, replug them, then loose filesystem.
Feel free to send patch
Hi!
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass
storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them,
then complain
about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work
with them
somewhere else, replug them, then loose filesystem.
Feel free to send patch to teach
Alan Stern wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
The GNOME hath spoken?
I also thought about that,
I think that the best solution is still to hide connect/disconnect of
usb devices from userspace (now it also causes corruption)
But to refuse suspend with any usb
On Monday, 2 April 2007 04:54, Alan Stern wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
Hi,
On Sunday, 1 April 2007 20:34, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them,
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sunday, 1 April 2007 20:34, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > > > Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
> > > > attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
> > > > about corruption.
Hi,
On Sunday, 1 April 2007 20:34, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
> > > attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
> > > about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
> > > somewhere
Hi!
> > Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
> > attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
> > about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
> > somewhere else, replug them, then loose filesystem.
> >
> > Feel free to send
Hi!
> > Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
> > attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
> > about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
> > somewhere else, replug them, then loose filesystem.
> >
> > Feel free to send
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > > > The GNOME hath spoken?
> > >
> > > > I also thought about that,
> > > >
> > > > I think that the best solution is still to hide
> > > > connect/disconnect of usb devices from userspace (now it also causes
> > >
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 19:50 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
> attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
> about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
> somewhere else, replug them, then loose
Hi!
> > > > The GNOME hath spoken?
> >
> > > I also thought about that,
> > >
> > > I think that the best solution is still to hide connect/disconnect of
> > > usb devices from userspace (now it also causes corruption)
> > > But to refuse suspend with any usb mass storage device
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 15:29 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > > In that case the user would see data corruption - just as if he mounts
> > > > a piece
> > > > of removable media in a USB card reader; yanks out the card and
> > > > modifies it
> > > > elsewhere, and then puts it back in.
Hi!
> > > In that case the user would see data corruption - just as if he mounts a
> > > piece
> > > of removable media in a USB card reader; yanks out the card and modifies
> > > it
> > > elsewhere, and then puts it back in.
> >
> > > I my opinion we can't really defend ourselves against such
Hi!
In that case the user would see data corruption - just as if he mounts a
piece
of removable media in a USB card reader; yanks out the card and modifies
it
elsewhere, and then puts it back in.
I my opinion we can't really defend ourselves against such users... We
can
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 15:29 +, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
In that case the user would see data corruption - just as if he mounts
a piece
of removable media in a USB card reader; yanks out the card and
modifies it
elsewhere, and then puts it back in.
I my opinion
Hi!
The GNOME hath spoken?
I also thought about that,
I think that the best solution is still to hide connect/disconnect of
usb devices from userspace (now it also causes corruption)
But to refuse suspend with any usb mass storage device connected with
mounted
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 19:50 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
somewhere else, replug them, then loose
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
The GNOME hath spoken?
I also thought about that,
I think that the best solution is still to hide
connect/disconnect of usb devices from userspace (now it also causes
corruption)
But
Hi!
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
somewhere else, replug them, then loose filesystem.
Feel free to send patch to teach
Hi!
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
somewhere else, replug them, then loose filesystem.
Feel free to send patch to teach
Hi,
On Sunday, 1 April 2007 20:34, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
about corruption. Advanced user will unplug them, work with them
somewhere else, replug
On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
Hi,
On Sunday, 1 April 2007 20:34, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
Problem is that suspending _with_ removable mass storage devices
attached just will not work. User will unplug them, then complain
about corruption. Advanced user will
Alan Stern wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Mmm.. this sounds really bad -- I wonder what happens if the rootfs is on USB ?
The system crashes as soon as it resumes. As you might expect.
With older kernels, things just "worked" this way. Has it now been broken ??
No; it has
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
> Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
> > unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
> > While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a
> > device is a flash card with
Maxim Levitsky wrote:
Hi,
I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a device is a flash card with mounted
file-system, because disappeared device will cause
Maxim Levitsky wrote:
Hi,
I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a device is a flash card with mounted
file-system, because disappeared device will cause
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Maxim Levitsky wrote:
Hi,
I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a
device is a flash card with mounted
Alan Stern wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Mark Lord wrote:
Mmm.. this sounds really bad -- I wonder what happens if the rootfs is on USB ?
The system crashes as soon as it resumes. As you might expect.
With older kernels, things just worked this way. Has it now been broken ??
No; it has
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 20:05:24 Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:15:14 -0400 (EDT), Alan Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > > Suspend to disk still causes "virtual replugging" and I think that
> > > controller is reset and will unplug/replug devices anyway
> > > Resolving
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:15:14 -0400 (EDT), Alan Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Suspend to disk still causes "virtual replugging" and I think that
> > controller is reset and will unplug/replug devices anyway
> > Resolving this problem is very difficult. Maybe it possible to check on
> >
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 19:15:14 Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
> > unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
> > While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> Hi,
> I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
> unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
> While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a
> device is a flash card with mounted
> file-system, because
Hi,
I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a device
is a flash card with mounted
file-system, because disappeared device will cause file-system corruption.
Hi,
I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a device
is a flash card with mounted
file-system, because disappeared device will cause file-system corruption.
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
Hi,
I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a
device is a flash card with mounted
file-system, because
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 19:15:14 Alan Stern wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
Hi,
I noticed that after suspend/resume cycle all my usb devices are
unplugged/replugged by uhci driver.
While it is not that big problem to me, that can be a real problem if a
device
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:15:14 -0400 (EDT), Alan Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suspend to disk still causes virtual replugging and I think that
controller is reset and will unplug/replug devices anyway
Resolving this problem is very difficult. Maybe it possible to check on
unplugging
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 20:05:24 Pete Zaitcev wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:15:14 -0400 (EDT), Alan Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Suspend to disk still causes virtual replugging and I think that
controller is reset and will unplug/replug devices anyway
Resolving this problem is
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