Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-26 Thread Grant Coady
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:34:10 -0600, Robert Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Karim Yaghmour wrote: >> That being said, shouldn't there be a way for the kernel to refuse to >> use this hd if it's not getting enough power. I don't know enough about >> USB to say, but isn't there something more

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-26 Thread Robert Hancock
Karim Yaghmour wrote: That being said, shouldn't there be a way for the kernel to refuse to use this hd if it's not getting enough power. I don't know enough about USB to say, but isn't there something more elegant that could be done in software? Not really.. It seems like pretty much a matter

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-26 Thread Robert Hancock
Karim Yaghmour wrote: That being said, shouldn't there be a way for the kernel to refuse to use this hd if it's not getting enough power. I don't know enough about USB to say, but isn't there something more elegant that could be done in software? Not really.. It seems like pretty much a matter

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-26 Thread Grant Coady
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:34:10 -0600, Robert Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karim Yaghmour wrote: That being said, shouldn't there be a way for the kernel to refuse to use this hd if it's not getting enough power. I don't know enough about USB to say, but isn't there something more elegant

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-25 Thread Karim Yaghmour
Alistair John Strachan wrote: > You can get special USB cables that link two USB ports' 5Vs together in > parallel, which seems to help supply the necessary current; after the HD has > spun up you can remove the second "dummy" USB connector (my laptop only has > two USB ports and I require the

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-25 Thread Karim Yaghmour
Alistair John Strachan wrote: You can get special USB cables that link two USB ports' 5Vs together in parallel, which seems to help supply the necessary current; after the HD has spun up you can remove the second dummy USB connector (my laptop only has two USB ports and I require the

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-20 Thread Alistair John Strachan
On Tuesday 19 Jul 2005 17:47, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > I have a usb-attached HD that I use from time to time. When it's connected > to my desktop through a hub it works flawlessly. When connected to my Dell > D600 Laptop, however, it sometimes randomly exhibits a loud click (as if > the heads went

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-20 Thread Alistair John Strachan
On Tuesday 19 Jul 2005 17:47, Karim Yaghmour wrote: I have a usb-attached HD that I use from time to time. When it's connected to my desktop through a hub it works flawlessly. When connected to my Dell D600 Laptop, however, it sometimes randomly exhibits a loud click (as if the heads went

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 04:16:55PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 15:29 -0400, Greg KH wrote: > > Ugh, you have a bad device or power supply, or aren't giving it enough > > power to drive the thing. Nothing we can do in Linux for that, sorry. > > Buy a wall-powered usb hub, that

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 15:29 -0400, Greg KH wrote: > Ugh, you have a bad device or power supply, or aren't giving it enough > power to drive the thing. Nothing we can do in Linux for that, sorry. > Buy a wall-powered usb hub, that usually helps. > I get the same messages on boot from a bus with

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 03:27:18PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > > That being said, shouldn't there be a way for the kernel to refuse to > use this hd if it's not getting enough power. I don't know enough about > USB to say, but isn't there something more elegant that could be done in >

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Karim Yaghmour
Greg KH wrote: > Ugh, you have a bad device or power supply, or aren't giving it enough > power to drive the thing. Nothing we can do in Linux for that, sorry. > Buy a wall-powered usb hub, that usually helps. I have one. I naively thought I could just plug the drive directly to the laptop

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:47:32PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: > > I have a usb-attached HD that I use from time to time. When it's connected > to my desktop through a hub it works flawlessly. When connected to my Dell > D600 Laptop, however, it sometimes randomly exhibits a loud click (as if

Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Karim Yaghmour
I have a usb-attached HD that I use from time to time. When it's connected to my desktop through a hub it works flawlessly. When connected to my Dell D600 Laptop, however, it sometimes randomly exhibits a loud click (as if the heads went berzerk) and the device goes unrecognized (i.e. the USB

Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Karim Yaghmour
I have a usb-attached HD that I use from time to time. When it's connected to my desktop through a hub it works flawlessly. When connected to my Dell D600 Laptop, however, it sometimes randomly exhibits a loud click (as if the heads went berzerk) and the device goes unrecognized (i.e. the USB

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 12:47:32PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: I have a usb-attached HD that I use from time to time. When it's connected to my desktop through a hub it works flawlessly. When connected to my Dell D600 Laptop, however, it sometimes randomly exhibits a loud click (as if the

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Karim Yaghmour
Greg KH wrote: Ugh, you have a bad device or power supply, or aren't giving it enough power to drive the thing. Nothing we can do in Linux for that, sorry. Buy a wall-powered usb hub, that usually helps. I have one. I naively thought I could just plug the drive directly to the laptop without

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 03:27:18PM -0400, Karim Yaghmour wrote: That being said, shouldn't there be a way for the kernel to refuse to use this hd if it's not getting enough power. I don't know enough about USB to say, but isn't there something more elegant that could be done in software?

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 15:29 -0400, Greg KH wrote: Ugh, you have a bad device or power supply, or aren't giving it enough power to drive the thing. Nothing we can do in Linux for that, sorry. Buy a wall-powered usb hub, that usually helps. I get the same messages on boot from a bus with no

Re: Weird USB errors on HD

2005-07-19 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 04:16:55PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 15:29 -0400, Greg KH wrote: Ugh, you have a bad device or power supply, or aren't giving it enough power to drive the thing. Nothing we can do in Linux for that, sorry. Buy a wall-powered usb hub, that