Re: Wireless support

2005-08-11 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Aug 11, 2005, at 23:17:07, Lee Revell wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 12:59 +1000, roucaries bastien wrote: They post on this list 1 year and a half ago no answer. I guess everyone on LKML has day jobs now, no one has time for fun stuff like reverse engineering drivers anymore... :-(

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 12:59 +1000, roucaries bastien wrote: > They post on this list 1 year and a half ago no answer. > I guess everyone on LKML has day jobs now, no one has time for fun stuff like reverse engineering drivers anymore... :-( Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-11 Thread roucaries bastien
On 8/12/05, Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 09:52 -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote: > > they are much less likely to participate in any kind of reverse > > engineering effort, even if it's just testing a new driver. > > I think anyone launching a reverse engineering effort

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 09:52 -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote: > they are much less likely to participate in any kind of reverse > engineering effort, even if it's just testing a new driver. I think anyone launching a reverse engineering effort should announce the project to LKML! When I set out to

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 09:52 -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote: they are much less likely to participate in any kind of reverse engineering effort, even if it's just testing a new driver. I think anyone launching a reverse engineering effort should announce the project to LKML! When I set out to add

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-11 Thread roucaries bastien
On 8/12/05, Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 09:52 -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote: they are much less likely to participate in any kind of reverse engineering effort, even if it's just testing a new driver. I think anyone launching a reverse engineering effort should

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 12:59 +1000, roucaries bastien wrote: They post on this list 1 year and a half ago no answer. I guess everyone on LKML has day jobs now, no one has time for fun stuff like reverse engineering drivers anymore... :-( Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-11 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Aug 11, 2005, at 23:17:07, Lee Revell wrote: On Fri, 2005-08-12 at 12:59 +1000, roucaries bastien wrote: They post on this list 1 year and a half ago no answer. I guess everyone on LKML has day jobs now, no one has time for fun stuff like reverse engineering drivers anymore... :-(

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-09 Thread Jochen Friedrich
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: >On Tuesday, 9 of August 2005 15:52, Kyle Moffett wrote: > > >>On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: >> >> >>>Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one >>>platform. >>> >>>E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-09 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Tuesday, 9 of August 2005 15:52, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: > > Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one > > platform. > > > > E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on > > Linux, but > > only for

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-09 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one platform. E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on Linux, but only for mipsel (wrt54g). On Alpha or PowerPC, most WLAN equipment doesn't work under

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-09 Thread Jochen Friedrich
Adrian Bunk wrote: >I see at least two disadvantages: > >First, it doesn't encourage hardware manufacturers to support open >source development. > >Linux has only a small market share, but it's slowly growing. > >Linux driver support does sometimes influence the decision which >hardware to buy.

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-09 Thread Jochen Friedrich
Adrian Bunk wrote: I see at least two disadvantages: First, it doesn't encourage hardware manufacturers to support open source development. Linux has only a small market share, but it's slowly growing. Linux driver support does sometimes influence the decision which hardware to buy. With

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-09 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one platform. E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on Linux, but only for mipsel (wrt54g). On Alpha or PowerPC, most WLAN equipment doesn't work under

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-09 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Tuesday, 9 of August 2005 15:52, Kyle Moffett wrote: On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one platform. E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on Linux, but only for mipsel

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-09 Thread Jochen Friedrich
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Tuesday, 9 of August 2005 15:52, Kyle Moffett wrote: On Aug 9, 2005, at 05:09:55, Jochen Friedrich wrote: Third, both ndiswrapper and binary-only drivers only work on one platform. E.g. broadcom has a binary-only driver for their WLAN card on Linux, but

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 01:29 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 03:06:58PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > With NdisWrapper, the hardware manufacturer can say: > "Our hardware is supported through the open source

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 03:06:58PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > > Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people > > uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf > > that don't care about

RE: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread alan
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > > Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people > > uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf > > that don't care about Linux. > > If you are

RE: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs >> ndiswrapper to work? >>> >>> No real idea but an educated guess: too much... >>> >> >> I like the idea of blacklisting anything with a native driver (even a >> partially working one), but

RE: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people > uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf > that don't care about Linux. If you are always speccing out new systems then of course, but

RE: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
> > > Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs > ndiswrapper to work? > > > > No real idea but an educated guess: too much... > > > > I like the idea of blacklisting anything with a native driver (even a > partially working one), but leaving alone the stuff that is completely >

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:24 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > > > >>I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago > >>(one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas Steinmetz
Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > >>I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago >>(one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need >>wlan there is http://zd1211.sourceforge.net/ > > > Any idea

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: > I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago > (one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need > wlan there is http://zd1211.sourceforge.net/ Any idea how much hardware is out there

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas Steinmetz
Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > >>On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: >> >>>On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: >>> On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: >Is the Linksys

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 22:50 -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote: > It doesn't actually say it works on Linux. Perhaps you wanted > mysticgooglepsychic.com? ;-) > > I don't think it is reasonable to expect google to know what ndiswrapper > is ... or perhaps it just has a taste filter installed? ;-)

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > > On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > > > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > > supported? > > > > Normally, linksys

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > supported? > > Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even > release info for a

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Denis Vlasenko
On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even release info for a driver.

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? Normally, linksys doesn't care much

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 22:50 -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote: It doesn't actually say it works on Linux. Perhaps you wanted mysticgooglepsychic.com? ;-) I don't think it is reasonable to expect google to know what ndiswrapper is ... or perhaps it just has a taste filter installed? ;-) True,

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas Steinmetz
Arjan van de Ven wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 13:48 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 09:31 +0300, Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Monday 08 August 2005 03:39, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago (one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need wlan there is http://zd1211.sourceforge.net/ Any idea how much hardware is out there that

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Andreas Steinmetz
Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago (one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need wlan there is http://zd1211.sourceforge.net/ Any idea how much

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:24 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 20:13 +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: I gave up on my laptop's built in Inprocomm IPN 2220 quite some time ago (one more reason not to like Cisco). In the rare cases I do really need wlan

RE: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs ndiswrapper to work? No real idea but an educated guess: too much... I like the idea of blacklisting anything with a native driver (even a partially working one), but leaving alone the stuff that is completely unsupported. Lee

RE: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf that don't care about Linux. If you are always speccing out new systems then of course, but in

RE: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread linux-os \(Dick Johnson\)
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: Any idea how much hardware is out there that needs ndiswrapper to work? No real idea but an educated guess: too much... I like the idea of blacklisting anything with a native driver (even a partially working one), but leaving alone the stuff

RE: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread alan
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf that don't care about Linux. If you are always

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 03:06:58PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: Again, the point is that ndiswrapper is a great project, but people uses it for the leftovers! We *shouldn't* buy leftovers or from Manuf that don't care about Linux.

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-08 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 01:29 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 03:06:58PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 12:56 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: With NdisWrapper, the hardware manufacturer can say: Our hardware is supported through the open source NdisWrapper.

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Martin J. Bligh
--Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Sunday, August 07, 2005 15:56:06 -0400): > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: >> Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) >> supported? >> > > Wow, Google has really declined in quality. I got zero hits for >

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 21:20 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 18:39 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > > supported? > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > >

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 18:39 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > > supported? > > > > TIA, > > > > Lee > > Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > supported? > > TIA, > > Lee Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's but the

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) > supported? > Wow, Google has really declined in quality. I got zero hits for "Linksys WUSB 54G linux". Then I found this page on my own. (from

Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Lee Revell
Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? TIA, Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at

Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Lee Revell
Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? TIA, Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? Wow, Google has really declined in quality. I got zero hits for Linksys WUSB 54G linux. Then I found this page on my own. (from

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? TIA, Lee Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even release info for a driver. Yeah, they have some open info for the WRT's but the

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 18:39 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? TIA, Lee Normally, linksys doesn't care much about Linux and they won't even release

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 21:20 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 18:39 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla Beeche wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? TIA, Lee Normally,

Re: Wireless support

2005-08-07 Thread Martin J. Bligh
--Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Sunday, August 07, 2005 15:56:06 -0400): On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:22 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Is the Linksys WUSB 54GS wireless adapter (FCCID Q87-WUSB54GS) supported? Wow, Google has really declined in quality. I got zero hits for Linksys