Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2021-01-08 Thread Sandy Harris
Pavel Machek wrote: > To play devil's advocate, does RNG subsystem need to evolve? Its task > is to get random numbers. Does it fail at the task? > > Problem is, random subsystem is hard to verify, and big rewrite is > likely to cause security problems... Parts of the problem, though, are dead

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-24 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 3:17 PM Petr Tesarik wrote: > > > Upfront, let me admit that SUSE has a vested interest in a > > > FIPS-certifiable Linux kernel. > > > > Sorry, but just because you have a "vested interest", or a financial > > interest, or because you want it does not

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-24 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > Any updates on that? > > > > I don't believe Torsten's concerns are simply about *applying* patches > > but more about these long periods of radio silence. That kills > > Exactly. I could live with replies in the style of "old" Linus like: > "Your code is crap, because it does X and Y".

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-23 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 5:03 PM Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 5:01 PM Petr Tesarik wrote: > > I never suggested that this should serve as a supportive argument. I was > > just trying to be honest about our motivations. > > > > I'm a bit sad that this

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-23 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hi Peter, On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 5:01 PM Petr Tesarik wrote: > I never suggested that this should serve as a supportive argument. I was just > trying to be honest about our motivations. > > I'm a bit sad that this discussion has quickly gone back to the choice of > algorithms and how they can

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-23 Thread Petr Tesarik
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 15:32:55 +0100 "Jason A. Donenfeld" wrote: > On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 3:17 PM Petr Tesarik wrote: > > Upfront, let me admit that SUSE has a vested interest in a FIPS-certifiable > > Linux kernel. > > Sorry, but just because you have a "vested interest", or a financial >

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-23 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 4:26 PM Stephan Mueller wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, dem 23.12.2020 um 15:32 +0100 schrieb Jason A. Donenfeld: > > > > I would, however, be interested in a keccak-based construction. But > > just using the keccak permutation does not automatically make it > > "SHA-3", so we're

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-23 Thread Stephan Mueller
Am Mittwoch, dem 23.12.2020 um 15:32 +0100 schrieb Jason A. Donenfeld: > > I would, however, be interested in a keccak-based construction. But > just using the keccak permutation does not automatically make it > "SHA-3", so we're back at the same issue again. FIPS is simply not > interesting for

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-23 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 3:17 PM Petr Tesarik wrote: > Upfront, let me admit that SUSE has a vested interest in a FIPS-certifiable > Linux kernel. Sorry, but just because you have a "vested interest", or a financial interest, or because you want it does not suddenly make it a good idea. The idea

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-23 Thread Petr Tesarik
On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:28:51 +0100 Torsten Duwe wrote: >[...] > > collaboration and disengage people. More than simply reviewing patches > > I would expect a maintainer to give directions and drive the > > community. Asking Jason to review Nicolai's patches was a step towards > > that, but I

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-23 Thread Torsten Duwe
On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:25:19 -0300 Marcelo Henrique Cerri wrote: > Hi, Ted and Jason. > > Any updates on that? > > I don't believe Torsten's concerns are simply about *applying* patches > but more about these long periods of radio silence. That kills Exactly. I could live with replies in the

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-18 Thread Marcelo Henrique Cerri
Hi, Ted and Jason. Any updates on that? I don't believe Torsten's concerns are simply about *applying* patches but more about these long periods of radio silence. That kills collaboration and disengage people. More than simply reviewing patches I would expect a maintainer to give directions and

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-12-01 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 5:56 PM Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > patches this cycle. One thing that would help me is if folks > (especially Jason, if you would) could start with a detailed review of > Nicolai's patches. Sure, I'll take a look.

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-11-30 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 04:15:23PM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > I am willing to maintain random.c and have intentions to have a > formally verified RNG. I've mentioned this to Ted before. > > But I think Ted's reluctance to not accept the recent patches sent to > this list is mostly

Re: drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-11-30 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
I am willing to maintain random.c and have intentions to have a formally verified RNG. I've mentioned this to Ted before. But I think Ted's reluctance to not accept the recent patches sent to this list is mostly justified, and I have no desire to see us rush into replacing random.c with something

drivers/char/random.c needs a (new) maintainer

2020-11-30 Thread Torsten Duwe
Hi Linus! AFAIK it's legit to bother you directly with issues like this one? I see certifications as the mere messengers here which tell us that our /dev/random is technologically outdated. Input entropy amounts are guesstimated in advance, obviously much too conservatively, compiled in and