Ok, I just revisited the "Sarah Sharp" "no more abuse" blogpost, where I
wrote a long comment on the problem she was describing, only to find
that my comment was not there. I felt a certain degree of provocation,
since this was a serious and honest post, without any kind of abuse,
from someone
Ok, I just revisited the Sarah Sharp no more abuse blogpost, where I
wrote a long comment on the problem she was describing, only to find
that my comment was not there. I felt a certain degree of provocation,
since this was a serious and honest post, without any kind of abuse,
from someone who
On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 09:07 +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
> > Perhaps what might help here is a kernel organizational chart.
[]
> the complete chart will in no doubt break 80
> characters limit. Actually as the hierarchy is quite flat, I can't
> image how long the longest line will be.
I think it really
> Perhaps what might help here is a kernel organizational chart. A graph
> of who sends pull requests to Linus, and their subsystem maintainers.
> For example, in the USB "branch" there would be:
>
> Linus Torvalds
> (Linux kernel release
* Ingo Molnar wrote:
> [...]
>
> ... and now you want to 'shut down' the discussion. With all due
> respect, you started it, you have put out various heavy accusations here
> and elsewhere, so you might as well take responsibility for it and let
> the discussion be brought to a conclusion,
* Sarah Sharp wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Sarah Sharp wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > * Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp
>
* Sarah Sharp sarah.a.sh...@linux.intel.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Sarah Sharp sarah.a.sh...@linux.intel.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Linus Torvalds torva...@linux-foundation.org
* Ingo Molnar mi...@kernel.org wrote:
[...]
... and now you want to 'shut down' the discussion. With all due
respect, you started it, you have put out various heavy accusations here
and elsewhere, so you might as well take responsibility for it and let
the discussion be brought to a
Perhaps what might help here is a kernel organizational chart. A graph
of who sends pull requests to Linus, and their subsystem maintainers.
For example, in the USB branch there would be:
Linus Torvalds
(Linux kernel release engineer)
On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 09:07 +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
Perhaps what might help here is a kernel organizational chart.
[]
the complete chart will in no doubt break 80
characters limit. Actually as the hierarchy is quite flat, I can't
image how long the longest line will be.
I think it really
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:01:27PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote:
>
> I'm not trying to shut down this discussion. But please, let's continue
> this discussion at KS, away from the court of public opinion. I would
> love for this email to serve as a final summary of my opinion. We can
> use this
Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2013, 12:01:27 schrieb Sarah Sharp:
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Sarah Sharp wrote:
[…]
> "Respect" means different things to different people. Here's a list of
> potentially disrespectful behaviors:
>
> * cussing
> * belittling
On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 12:01 -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote:
> Move on, agree to disagree, and let's discuss this at KS.
+1
(Sorry for the reply ;-)
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Sarah Sharp wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >
> > > * Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, FFS,
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> ... and now you want to 'shut down' the discussion. With all due respect,
> you started it, you have put out various heavy accusations here and
> elsewhere, so you might as well take responsibility for it and let the
> discussion
* Ingo Molnar wrote:
> [...]
>
> Mistakes in patches and code happen all the time. Linus rarely if ever
> flamed me for _that_ - sh*t happens.
>
> What he flames me for, and what you (with all due respect) still don't
> seem to understand, are _META_ mistakes. Top level maintainer level
>
* Sarah Sharp wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh, FFS, I just called out on private email for "playing the victim
> > > > card". I will
* Sarah Sharp sarah.a.sh...@linux.intel.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Linus Torvalds torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp
sarah.a.sh...@linux.intel.com wrote:
Oh, FFS, I just called
* Ingo Molnar mi...@kernel.org wrote:
[...]
Mistakes in patches and code happen all the time. Linus rarely if ever
flamed me for _that_ - sh*t happens.
What he flames me for, and what you (with all due respect) still don't
seem to understand, are _META_ mistakes. Top level maintainer
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
... and now you want to 'shut down' the discussion. With all due respect,
you started it, you have put out various heavy accusations here and
elsewhere, so you might as well take responsibility for it and let the
discussion be
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Sarah Sharp sarah.a.sh...@linux.intel.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:39:07PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Linus Torvalds torva...@linux-foundation.org wrote:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sarah Sharp
On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 12:01 -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote:
Move on, agree to disagree, and let's discuss this at KS.
+1
(Sorry for the reply ;-)
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Am Freitag, 19. Juli 2013, 12:01:27 schrieb Sarah Sharp:
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:22:56AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Sarah Sharp sarah.a.sh...@linux.intel.com wrote:
[…]
Respect means different things to different people. Here's a list of
potentially disrespectful behaviors:
* cussing
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:01:27PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote:
I'm not trying to shut down this discussion. But please, let's continue
this discussion at KS, away from the court of public opinion. I would
love for this email to serve as a final summary of my opinion. We can
use this email
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