Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
e others not. But the important point is that it makes that redistribution legal. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `'[EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom - To unsubscribe from th

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
ally, you shouldn't forget that, technically speaking, using hotplug for uploading the firmware is much more flexible and elegant than including it in the kernel. Upgrading the firmware and the module should be two independent operations. People who are advocating the current situati

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
a separate function from loading a module > is "good" or "bad". Of course it is. If the proposed solution is technically better and pleases the so-called zealots, why are you discussing it at all? -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' :

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 05 avril 2005 Ã 12:50 -0600, Chris Friesen a Ãcrit : > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > The fact is also that mixing them with a GPLed software gives > > an result you can't redistribute - although it seems many people > > disagree with that assertion now.

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
provided they are clearly > identified and properly licenced, which they are not always. The fact that nobody cared to answer you shouldn't be considered as any kind of approval for your sayings. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' : [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
it into the hardware. At least that's my opinion; AIUI, Sven Luther believes it is possible if the firmware has a decent (but not necessarily free) license. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `'

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
everyday use. > As a contrast, read the discussion between Christoph and Arjan in a part > of this thread how to move firmware out of kernel drivers without > problems for the users. This might not happen today, but it's better for > the users. Some Debian develop

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
he right > to do modifications are less important for documentation, since e.g. > fixes for security bugs are not an issue. > > Removing the available documentation without an equal replacement is a > real disserve for your users. GFDL documentation

Re: non-free firmware in kernel modules, aggregation and unclear copyright notice.

2005-04-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
gt; only the dozen binary CDs of Debian? Without the GFDL documentation, you'll have the right to lock the room in which you put the CDs. The GFDL forbids that, because you'd be "using technical measures to obstruct further copying" of the documentations. -- .''`.