Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-06 Thread Antti Palosaari
On 01/06/2013 07:03 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:33:49 +0200 Antti Palosaari escreveu: On 01/03/2013 06:29 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger esc

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-06 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:33:49 +0200 Antti Palosaari escreveu: > On 01/03/2013 06:29 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 > > Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu: > > > >> Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 > >> Klaus Schmidinger escreveu: > >> > >>> On 03.01.2013 14:

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM, VDR User wrote: > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: >> I would not like to define exact units for BER and USB as those are quite >> hard to implement and also non-sense. User would like just to see if there >> is some (random) numbers and if t

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread VDR User
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: > I would not like to define exact units for BER and USB as those are quite > hard to implement and also non-sense. User would like just to see if there > is some (random) numbers and if those numbers are rising or reducing when he > changes a

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:33:49 +0200 Antti Palosaari escreveu: > On 01/03/2013 06:29 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 > > Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu: > > > >> Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 > >> Klaus Schmidinger escreveu: > >> > >>> On 03.01.2013 14:

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Antti Palosaari
On 01/03/2013 06:29 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu: Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger escreveu: On 03.01.2013 14:20, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu:

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Antti Palosaari wrote: > > Manu, here is manual of the professional ISDB-T signal analyzer. Look > especially BER measurement picture from "Slide 10". Sure, it looks so. Just wondering what the TDM stuffing would do after the hierarchial combiner. Manu -- To unsu

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Antti Palosaari
On 01/03/2013 09:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 01:02:02 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:39:25 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu: Hi Antti, On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Antti Palosaari

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 > Manu Abraham escreveu: > >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab >> wrote: >> > Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 >> > Manu Abraham escreveu: >> > >> >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 01:02:02 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu: > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > wrote: > > Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:39:25 +0530 > > Manu Abraham escreveu: > > > >> Hi Antti, > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: > >> > On 01/01/2013 0

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:39:25 +0530 > Manu Abraham escreveu: > >> Hi Antti, >> >> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: >> > On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Maur

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Fri, 4 Jan 2013 00:39:25 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu: > Hi Antti, > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: > > On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > >> wrote: > >> > >>> [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properti

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Manu Abraham
Hi Antti, On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Antti Palosaari wrote: > On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab >> wrote: >> >>> [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters >>> >>> The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:14:29 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu: > Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 > Klaus Schmidinger escreveu: > > > On 03.01.2013 14:20, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > > Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 > > > Manu Abraham escreveu: > > > > > >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:18:26 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger escreveu: > On 03.01.2013 14:20, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 > > Manu Abraham escreveu: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > >> wrote: > >>> Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Antti Palosaari
On 01/01/2013 06:48 PM, Manu Abraham wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure;

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 03.01.2013 14:20, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-03 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Wed, 2 Jan 2013 00:38:50 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu: > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > wrote: > > Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 > > Manu Abraham escreveu: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > >> wrote: > >> > >> > [RFCv4] dvb: Add DV

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-01 Thread Manu Abraham
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 > Manu Abraham escreveu: > >> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab >> wrote: >> >> > [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters >> > >> > The DVBv3 quality parameters

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-01 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:18:49 +0530 Manu Abraham escreveu: > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > wrote: > > > [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters > > > > The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: > > - Doesn't provide any way to ind

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-01 Thread Manu Abraham
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > [RFCv4] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters > > The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: > - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; > - Userspace need to guess how to calcul

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2013-01-01 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:36:16 -0500 Devin Heitmueller escreveu: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > wrote: > > The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: > > - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; > > - Userspace need to guess

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-29 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:49:21 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger escreveu: > On 29.12.2012 17:36, Devin Heitmueller wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab > > wrote: > >> The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: > >> - Doesn't provide any way to indicate

Re: [linux-media] Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-29 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 29.12.2012 17:36, Devin Heitmueller wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; - Userspace need to guess how to calculate the measure;

Re: [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-29 Thread Devin Heitmueller
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: > - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; > - Userspace need to guess how to calculate the measure; > - Only a limited set of stats are

Re: [linux-media] [PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-29 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
On 29.12.2012 00:56, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; - Userspace need to guess how to calculate the measure; - Only a limited set of stats are supported;

[PATCH RFCv3] dvb: Add DVBv5 properties for quality parameters

2012-12-28 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
The DVBv3 quality parameters are limited on several ways: - Doesn't provide any way to indicate the used measure; - Userspace need to guess how to calculate the measure; - Only a limited set of stats are supported; - Doesn't provide QoS measure for the OFDM TPS/TMCC