On 22/02/2009, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>
> Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
YES
> Optional question:
>
> Why:
I'm not going to repeat everything again, but i'd like to know that
most of the developer's time to code is used adding new features or
improving the
Hi all,
Hans Verkuil schrieb:
So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explanation to
your standpoint. It doesn't matter if you are a user or developer, I'd like
to see your opinion regardless.
Pleas
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
>
> _: Yes
> _: No
Yes.
> Optional question:
>
> Why:
Focus on moving forward instead of looking backwards. Keeping user
space compatibilty is of course a good idea, but
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a s
Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
_: Yes
_: No
Yes.
Why:
I'm a v4l-user, I use my VDR for a couple of years now. These were the
steps I took, before I assembled my box:
- I have analog cable, so what hardware does exist, that is capable to
record vi
> Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
>
> _: Yes
> _: No
>
>
YES (but I would go even further)
>
> Optional question:
>
> Why:
>
The aim should be to bring improvements to the released Linux kernel.
The *only* point relevant for both development and te
> Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb
> repository?
>
> _: Yes
> _: No
>
Yes.
> Optional question:
>
> Why:
>
Most distros offer the lastest kernels. I had requests for old kernels,
but these ones were very old (2.6.10!).
--
Ken ar c'hentañ | ** Breizh ha Lin
Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
_: Yes
_: No
YES.
Optional question:
Why:
I assume that the main goal should be development of linux v4l/dvb
drivers to be included in *new* kernel versions. These dont need compat
code.
But beside of the main g
Simon Kenyon wrote:
Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to
actually determine someone's opinion.
So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly
to me with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short
explan
> Hans Verkuil wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
>> determine someone's opinion.
>>
>> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to
>> me
>> with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explanat
Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
determine someone's opinion.
So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explanation to
your standpo
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Markus Rechberger
wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Jonathan Johnson wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> My vote is YES, why haven't we done this already??
>>
>> My understanding is that we are just drop old kernel support and retaining
>> the vast majority of the
Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
determine someone's opinion.
So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explanation to
your standpo
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Jonathan Johnson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> My vote is YES, why haven't we done this already??
>
> My understanding is that we are just drop old kernel support and retaining
> the vast majority of the drivers.
> If anyone tallied the total number CVE listed vulernabi
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 24.02.2009, 16:02 -0500 schrieb Michael Krufky:
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
> >
> > _: Yes
> > _: No
>
>
> NO.
>
this is an unwanted reply to Hans' polling, but I also sta
Hello all,
My vote is YES, why haven't we done this already??
My understanding is that we are just drop old kernel support and retaining the
vast majority of the drivers.
If anyone tallied the total number CVE listed vulernabilites and other problems
fixed since then they would probably be shoc
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
>
> _: Yes
> _: No
NO.
> Optional question:
>
> Why:
Dropping support for older kernels means dropping support for MOST testers.
Sure, it's an inconvenience for the m
John Pilkington wrote:
Jean Delvare wrote:
* Enterprise-class distributions (RHEL, SLED) are not the right target
for the v4l-dvb repository, so we don't care which kernels these are
running.
I think you should be aware that the mythtv and ATrpms communities
include a significant number
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 11:15 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional but
Please reply to this poll if you haven't done so yet. I only count clear
yes/no answers, so if you replied earlier to this in order to discuss a
point then I haven't counted that.
Currently it's 16 yes and 2 no votes, but I'd really like to see some more
input. I want to post the final results
Hi Jean:
Jean Delvare wrote:
Hi John,
(re-adding linux-media on Cc as I doubt you dropped it on purpose...)
Right: I do subconsciously expect 'reply' to go to the list, and don't
always remember to check first. No doubt you got two copies.
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:46:04 +, John Pilkingto
On Sunday 22 of February 2009, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome
Hi John,
(re-adding linux-media on Cc as I doubt you dropped it on purpose...)
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:46:04 +, John Pilkington wrote:
> Jean Delvare wrote:
>
> > * Enterprise-class distributions (RHEL, SLED) are not the right target
> > for the v4l-dvb repository, so we don't care which ke
Jean Delvare wrote:
* Enterprise-class distributions (RHEL, SLED) are not the right target
for the v4l-dvb repository, so we don't care which kernels these are
running.
I think you should be aware that the mythtv and ATrpms communities
include a significant number of people who have chos
On Tuesday 24 February 2009 06:04:48 Trent Piepho wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, David Ellingsworth wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Hans Verkuil
wrote:
> > > Optional question:
> >
> > Why can't we drop support for all but the latest kernel?
> >
> > > Why:
> >
> > As others have alread
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, David Ellingsworth wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> > Optional question:
>
> Why can't we drop support for all but the latest kernel?
>
> >
> > Why:
>
> As others have already pointed out, it is a waste of time for
> developers who volunteer thei
> Hello Hans,
>
> Hans Verkuil schrieb:
>> We still need to support kernels from 2.6.22 onwards. Although I think
>> the
>> minimum supported kernel is something that needs a regular sanity check,
>> right now there are no technical reasons that I am aware of to go to
>> something newer than 2.6.2
Hello Hans,
Hans Verkuil schrieb:
We still need to support kernels from 2.6.22 onwards. Although I think the
minimum supported kernel is something that needs a regular sanity check,
right now there are no technical reasons that I am aware of to go to
something newer than 2.6.22.
Whether we keep
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional but welc
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:26:57 -0300
Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> I'm right now working on another way of allowing backport that will better
> scale, and will allow developers to use -git, without losing backport for
> users.
I have an incomplete skeleton for the backport scripts, available at
Hello Hans,
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:15:01 +0100
Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to
> actually determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly
> to me with your yes/no answer and
Hi Trent,
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Jean Delvare wrote:
>> > There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to
>> actually
>> > determine someone's opinion.
>> >
>> > So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly
>> to me
>> > with your yes/no answer and (optional
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> > determine someone's opinion.
> >
> > So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> > with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short ex
Hi Hans,
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explanation to
> your standpoint. It do
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:15:01 +0100
Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional b
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
>
> _: Yes
> _: No
Yes.
> Optional question:
>
> Why:
The reasons already stated, those resources could be better used doing
other things. Aside of that, of the devs/use
2009/2/22 Hans Verkuil :
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explanation to
>
Andy Walls wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 14:12 -0500, CityK wrote:
>
>
>> The V4L-DVB is lacking in strategic direction. Yesterday was the time
>> to adopt one; so lets pick up one today!
>>
>
> CityK,
>
> I see you've been reading (or channeling) my blathering:
>
> http://www.linuxtv.org
Yes...
On Mon Feb 23 12:13 , hermann pitton sent:
>
>Am Sonntag, den 22.02.2009, 11:15 +0100 schrieb Hans Verkuil:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
>> determine someone's opinion.
>>
>> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to
Am Sonntag, den 22.02.2009, 11:15 +0100 schrieb Hans Verkuil:
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (opti
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 14:12 -0500, CityK wrote:
> The V4L-DVB is lacking in strategic direction. Yesterday was the time
> to adopt one; so lets pick up one today!
CityK,
I see you've been reading (or channeling) my blathering:
http://www.linuxtv.org/irc/v4l/index.php?date=2009-02-20
([19:42]
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Hans Verkuil wrote:
Hi all,
There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
determine someone's opinion.
So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explana
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
> determine someone's opinion.
>
> So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
> with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a s
Hans Verkuil wrote:
> Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository?
>
Yes
> Optional question:
>
> Why:
>
Its causing skilled developers to waste time that would be better served
in other areas. Because of that, these skilled volunteers are becoming
frustrated and
Hi all,
There are lot's of discussions, but it can be hard sometimes to actually
determine someone's opinion.
So here is a quick poll, please reply either to the list or directly to me
with your yes/no answer and (optional but welcome) a short explanation to
your standpoint. It doesn't matter
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