Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-25 Thread Clark, Rob
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Kyungmin Park kmp...@infradead.org wrote: Rough schedules. 1. Warsaw meetings (3/16~3/18): mostly v4l2 person and some SoC vendors  Make a consensence at media developers. and share the information.  Please note that it's v4l2 brainstorming meeting. so memory

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-22 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Monday 21 March 2011 19:03:38 Hans Verkuil wrote: On Wednesday, March 16, 2011 09:14:54 Kyungmin Park wrote: Rough schedules. 1. Warsaw meetings (3/16~3/18): mostly v4l2 person and some SoC vendors Make a consensence at media developers. and share the information. Please note

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-21 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Wednesday, March 16, 2011 09:14:54 Kyungmin Park wrote: Rough schedules. 1. Warsaw meetings (3/16~3/18): mostly v4l2 person and some SoC vendors Make a consensence at media developers. and share the information. Please note that it's v4l2 brainstorming meeting. so memory management

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-16 Thread Li Li
Sorry but I feel the discussion is a bit off the point. We're not going to compare the pros and cons of current code (GEM/TTM, HWMEM, UMP, CMA, VCM, CMEM, PMEM, etc.) The real problem is to find a suitable unified memory management module for various kinds of HW components (including CPU, VPU,

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-16 Thread Kyungmin Park
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Li Li eggon...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry but I feel the discussion is a bit off the point. We're not going to compare the pros and cons of current code (GEM/TTM, HWMEM, UMP, CMA, VCM, CMEM, PMEM, etc.) The real problem is to find a suitable unified memory

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-16 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Tuesday 15 March 2011 17:07:10 Robert Fekete wrote: On 8 March 2011 20:23, Laurent Pinchart wrote: On Tuesday 08 March 2011 20:12:45 Andy Walls wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:52 +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote: [snip] It really shouldn't be that hard to get everyone involved

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-16 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Alex, On Tuesday 15 March 2011 17:47:47 Alex Deucher wrote: [snip] FWIW, I have yet to see any v4l developers ever email the dri mailing list while discussing GEM, TTM, or the DRM, all the while conjecturing on aspects of it they admit to not fully understanding. For future reference,

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-16 Thread Alex Deucher
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Laurent Pinchart laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com wrote: Hi Alex, On Tuesday 15 March 2011 17:47:47 Alex Deucher wrote: [snip] FWIW, I have yet to see any v4l developers ever email the dri mailing list while discussing GEM, TTM, or the DRM, all the while

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-16 Thread Alex Deucher
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Li Li eggon...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry but I feel the discussion is a bit off the point. We're not going to compare the pros and cons of current code (GEM/TTM, HWMEM, UMP, CMA, VCM, CMEM, PMEM, etc.) The real problem is to find a suitable unified memory

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-16 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Alex, On Wednesday 16 March 2011 17:00:03 Alex Deucher wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: On Tuesday 15 March 2011 17:47:47 Alex Deucher wrote: [snip] FWIW, I have yet to see any v4l developers ever email the dri mailing list while discussing GEM,

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-16 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Alex, On Wednesday 16 March 2011 17:09:45 Alex Deucher wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Li Li eggon...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry but I feel the discussion is a bit off the point. We're not going to compare the pros and cons of current code (GEM/TTM, HWMEM, UMP, CMA, VCM, CMEM, PMEM,

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-15 Thread Robert Fekete
On 8 March 2011 20:23, Laurent Pinchart laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com wrote: Hi Andy, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 20:12:45 Andy Walls wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:52 +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote: [snip] It really shouldn't be that hard to get everyone involved together and

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-15 Thread Alex Deucher
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Robert Fekete robert.fek...@linaro.org wrote: On 8 March 2011 20:23, Laurent Pinchart laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com wrote: Hi Andy, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 20:12:45 Andy Walls wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:52 +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote: [snip]

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-13 Thread Alex Deucher
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Hans Verkuil hverk...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Tuesday, March 08, 2011 15:01:10 Andy Walls wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 09:13 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: Hi all, We had a discussion yesterday regarding ways in which linaro can assist V4L2 development. One topic

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-13 Thread Alex Deucher
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Andy Walls awa...@md.metrocast.net wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 09:13 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: Hi all, We had a discussion yesterday regarding ways in which linaro can assist V4L2 development. One topic was that of sorting out memory providers like GEM and

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-10 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 03:14:11PM +0100, Marek Szyprowski wrote: Hello, On Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:14 AM Hans Verkuil wrote: We had a discussion yesterday regarding ways in which linaro can assist V4L2 development. One topic was that of sorting out memory providers like GEM and

Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-08 Thread Hans Verkuil
Hi all, We had a discussion yesterday regarding ways in which linaro can assist V4L2 development. One topic was that of sorting out memory providers like GEM and HWMEM. Today I learned of yet another one: UMP from ARM.

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-08 Thread Kyungmin Park
Dear Jonghun, It's also helpful to explain what's the original purpose of UMP (for GPU, MALI) and what's the goal of UMP usage for multimedia stack. Especially, what's the final goal of UMP from LSI. Also consider the previous GPU memory management program, e.g., SGX. Thank you, Kyungmin Park

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-08 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Andy, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 15:01:10 Andy Walls wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 09:13 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: Hi all, We had a discussion yesterday regarding ways in which linaro can assist V4L2 development. One topic was that of sorting out memory providers like GEM and HWMEM.

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-08 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Tuesday, March 08, 2011 15:01:10 Andy Walls wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 09:13 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: Hi all, We had a discussion yesterday regarding ways in which linaro can assist V4L2 development. One topic was that of sorting out memory providers like GEM and HWMEM.

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-08 Thread Andy Walls
Hi LAurent, On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:52 +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote: Hi Andy, [snip] It really shouldn't be that hard to get everyone involved together and settle on a single solution (either based on an existing proposal or create a 'the best of' vendor-neutral solution).

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-08 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi Andy, On Tuesday 08 March 2011 20:12:45 Andy Walls wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 16:52 +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote: [snip] It really shouldn't be that hard to get everyone involved together and settle on a single solution (either based on an existing proposal or create a

Re: Yet another memory provider: can linaro organize a meeting?

2011-03-08 Thread Andy Walls
Hi Hans, On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 18:23 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: Single might be making the problem impossibly hard to solve well. One-size-fits-all solutions have a tendency to fall short on meeting someone's critical requirement. I will agree that less than n, for some small n, is