Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Joshua Miller
Finally a response that make sense. To the original question I have over 150 servers .. 2950s, 1950s, r610s, r710s and run ubuntu karmic and lucid and only issue I have is a rootdelay option I had to add on the ones that have the sas perc6 cards. Also the new Dell omsa 6.3 packages rock. Also

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin Davidson
On 7 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Johan Sjöberg wrote: > These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth > support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af > deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a reasonably slim > installation. And you are a

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Johan Sjöberg
> -Original Message- > From: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge- > boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of John Hodrien > Sent: den 7 september 2010 13:42 > To: linux-poweredge@dell.com > Subject: RE: Advice for a debian server > > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote: > >

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Michael Zoet
Am Di, 7.09.2010, 13:50 schrieb Davide Ferrari: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:41 +0100, John Hodrien wrote: >> Absolutely. And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like >> Debian >> doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux >> vendors. > > That's the point of the

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Robin Bowes
On 07/09/10 13:15, Michael Zoet wrote: > So I really do not understand the point of this discussion. Michael, The point of this discussion is that you get to see who has got their head screwed on properly, and whose opinion you should take with a pinch of salt in the future, ie. those who foam at

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread J. Epperson
On Tue, September 7, 2010 06:44, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tim Connors > wrote: > >> >> But if you know what you're doing, often debian is better.  Depends on >> your needs and skills.  We run debian fine here, with no difficulty >> talking to the raid cards and

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Davide Ferrari
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:41 +0100, John Hodrien wrote: > Absolutely. And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like > Debian > doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux > vendors. That's the point of the F/LOSS ecosystem, isn't it? :) -- Davide Ferrari System

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote: Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one... Quite, but that doesn't mean you need to rise to it. These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth support and a desktop environment on a server? A single kickstart for

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote: > Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one... > > These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth > support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af > deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS t

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Johan Sjöberg
Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one... These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a reasonably slim installation. And you are also "f

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Davide Ferrari
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:44 +0200, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: > > FYI: > > RHEL is a commercial enterprise linux distri and debian is a not reliable > opensource project with hobby developers. Most of your average server side free/open source software is|were developed by hobby developers, so

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Morten P.D. Stevens
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tim Connors wrote: > > But if you know what you're doing, often debian is better.  Depends on > your needs and skills.  We run debian fine here, with no difficulty > talking to the raid cards and hardware sensors etc that we use, and > because debian is a far bette

FW: mptlinux missing from linux-poweredge yum repository?

2010-09-07 Thread Bob Huisman
Hi all, Has anyone else run into this problem? I'm still wondering where the 'mptlinux' driver package went, or whether there is another location I can find the latest package, which used to be in the OMSA 6.2 repo. Best regards, Bob Huisman From: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:li

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Robin Bowes
On 07/09/10 02:01, Tim Connors wrote: > because debian is a far better quality distribution than redhat (and thus > centos) Without wishing to start a distro war, that statement is simply not correct. I'm not dissing debian - it is a great distro - but it's not "far better quality" than RHEL. Ind