Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Joshua Miller
Finally a response that make sense. To the original question I have over 150 servers .. 2950s, 1950s, r610s, r710s and run ubuntu karmic and lucid and only issue I have is a rootdelay option I had to add on the ones that have the sas perc6 cards. Also the new Dell omsa 6.3 packages rock. Also

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Kevin Davidson
On 7 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Johan Sjöberg wrote: > These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth > support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af > deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a reasonably slim > installation. And you are a

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Johan Sjöberg
> -Original Message- > From: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge- > boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of John Hodrien > Sent: den 7 september 2010 13:42 > To: linux-poweredge@dell.com > Subject: RE: Advice for a debian server > > On Tue, 7 Sep 2

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Michael Zoet
Am Di, 7.09.2010, 13:50 schrieb Davide Ferrari: > On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:41 +0100, John Hodrien wrote: >> Absolutely. And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like >> Debian >> doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux >> vendors. > > That's the point of the

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Robin Bowes
On 07/09/10 13:15, Michael Zoet wrote: > So I really do not understand the point of this discussion. Michael, The point of this discussion is that you get to see who has got their head screwed on properly, and whose opinion you should take with a pinch of salt in the future, ie. those who foam at

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread J. Epperson
On Tue, September 7, 2010 06:44, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tim Connors > wrote: > >> >> But if you know what you're doing, often debian is better.  Depends on >> your needs and skills.  We run debian fine here, with no difficulty >> talking to the raid cards and

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Davide Ferrari
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:41 +0100, John Hodrien wrote: > Absolutely. And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like > Debian > doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux > vendors. That's the point of the F/LOSS ecosystem, isn't it? :) -- Davide Ferrari System

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote: Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one... Quite, but that doesn't mean you need to rise to it. These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth support and a desktop environment on a server? A single kickstart for

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote: > Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one... > > These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants Bluetooth > support and a desktop environment on a server? You need to do a lot af > deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS t

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Johan Sjöberg
: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge- > boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of Morten P.D. Stevens > Sent: den 7 september 2010 12:44 > To: linux-poweredge@dell.com > Subject: RE: Advice for a debian server > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tim Connors > wrote: >

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Davide Ferrari
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 12:44 +0200, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: > > FYI: > > RHEL is a commercial enterprise linux distri and debian is a not reliable > opensource project with hobby developers. Most of your average server side free/open source software is|were developed by hobby developers, so

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Morten P.D. Stevens
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tim Connors wrote: > > But if you know what you're doing, often debian is better.  Depends on > your needs and skills.  We run debian fine here, with no difficulty > talking to the raid cards and hardware sensors etc that we use, and > because debian is a far bette

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-07 Thread Robin Bowes
On 07/09/10 02:01, Tim Connors wrote: > because debian is a far better quality distribution than redhat (and thus > centos) Without wishing to start a distro war, that statement is simply not correct. I'm not dissing debian - it is a great distro - but it's not "far better quality" than RHEL. Ind

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Connors
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Tapas Mishra wrote: > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Morten P.D. Stevens > wrote: > > Hi Emmanuel, > > > > my suggestion is to use CentOS with Dell Poweredge servers. All Dell > > Poweredge machines are certified for RHEL and CentOS is 100% binary > > compatible with RHEL.

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Morten P.D. Stevens
ve Baroti > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:05 PM > To: linux-poweredge@dell.com > Subject: Re: Advice for a debian server > > Remember, please skip S100/S300 controllers, at my knowledge they are > not > supported: > https://access.redhat.com/kb/docs/DOC-19840

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Steve Baroti
Remember, please skip S100/S300 controllers, at my knowledge they are not supported: https://access.redhat.com/kb/docs/DOC-19840 SB. - Original Message - From: "Tapas Mishra" To: Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 13:13 Subject: Re: Advice for a debian server > On Mon, S

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Tapas Mishra
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Morten P.D. Stevens wrote: > Hi Emmanuel, > > my suggestion is to use CentOS with Dell Poweredge servers. All Dell > Poweredge machines are certified for RHEL and CentOS is 100% binary > compatible with RHEL. > > If you need without fail a debian based linux dist

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Morten P.D. Stevens
> -Original Message- > From: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge- > boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of Emmanuel Lesouef > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 2:58 PM > To: linux-poweredge@dell.com > Subject: Advice for a debian server > > Hi, > > Read

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Tapas Mishra
My reply will not directly answer your question. I have had n number of problems using Debian. Many different type of issues. Search for Ubuntu and your Dell Server Model number there is a high probability that Canonical team would have done their calculations and all the things will work, On Mon,

RE: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Johan Sjöberg
info: http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant#Needbnx2firmware /Johan -Original Message- From: linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge-boun...@dell.com] On Behalf Of Tim Small Sent: den 6 september 2010 18:02 To: Emmanuel Lesouef Cc: linux-poweredge@dell.com Subject: Re: Advice fo

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Tim Small
On 06/09/10 13:57, Emmanuel Lesouef wrote: > Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about > compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux. > > What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install Debian > Stable (Lenny) ? > Anything without a

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Joe Gooch
We have poweredge R710's, plus 2850, 2950, and others all running Lenny 5.0.6. Our servers have the PERC model raid cards. It's primarily Lenny with additional packages from squeeze as necessary. (using apt preferences to pin specific packages to squeeze) Joe On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:00 AM, "Emma

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread cgm
Acctually I do have debian lenny7 running fine on R810 (which cames with PERC H700), used netinstall # cat version.info Debian version: 5.0 (lenny) Installer build: 20090123lenny7 and yes I added bnx2 firmware manually http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware __

Re: Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread i3D.net - Joep Gottlieb
Dependable on what you want, If you want one of the new raid cards in your server, H700 or H200 (I've even heard the S100 and S300 have problems with debian) You don't want Debian, or you want Debian Squeeze. When you go for a server in the R x10 serie, you will most likely face problems with th

Advice for a debian server

2010-09-06 Thread Emmanuel Lesouef
Hi, Reading this list, I sometimes see threads complaining about compatibility issue between recent Dell servers and Debian GNU/Linux. What is the most stable and compatible model in order to install Debian Stable (Lenny) ? Thanks for your advices. -- Emmanuel Lesouef