Re: RDMAoE / lossless Ethernet (ewg: SC'09 BOF - Meeting notes)

2009-12-24 Thread Or Gerlitz
Roland Dreier wrote: Sure, DCB is very useful, in many environments. And maybe even a requirement sometimes. I'm simply trying to say that IBoE with classical ethernet is at least as useful as standard IB in many cases Roland, Paul, Putting a side for a moment the detailed discussion we've

Re: RDMAoE / lossless Ethernet (ewg: SC'09 BOF - Meeting notes)

2009-12-23 Thread Or Gerlitz
Liran Liss wrote: all the rdmaoe materials saying the lossless traffic class is a must, are you saying that this works well also without it? then why from architect point of view you have posed this requirement? lossless traffic can be achieved today using global pause, for example.

Re: RDMAoE / lossless Ethernet (ewg: SC'09 BOF - Meeting notes)

2009-12-23 Thread Roland Dreier
Liran, I would say that OTOH global pause isn't the way to go and OTHO IB RC functions quite bad when many packets are lost. As such RDMAoE without PFC and mapping priorities into TCs (the Ethernet VLs) isn't really for production, for any non trivial environment involving more then one

Re: RDMAoE / lossless Ethernet (ewg: SC'09 BOF - Meeting notes)

2009-12-23 Thread Or Gerlitz
Roland Dreier rdre...@cisco.com wrote: I agree that implementing DCB is important for IBoE, but why do you say that a classical ethernet fabric with global pause isn't usable?  That should be roughly equivalent to an IB fabric that uses only a single VL, which is the case for many production