Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-17 Thread Stefan Richter
Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: SCSI is a generic peripheral bus No, not anymore. http://www.t10.org/scsi-3.htm (recall the expansion of the acronym). The expansion of the acronym doesn't fit anymore to what SCSI is today, or even to what it became already circa 10 years ago. Even though

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-16 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 06:23:13PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: @Greg: Do you have any numbers regarding how your Linux Kernel in a Nutshell is selling? It is selling reasonably well for an O'Reilly book from what I have been told. But I have not seen any real numbers yet. Even download

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 10:01:18PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: On 14 Sep, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:00:33PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: Hi Stefan. Such a patch really calls for some minimal unifacation among the architectures. arch/alpha/Kconfig

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Stefan Richter
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 10:01:18PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: drivers/Kconfig |4 drivers/scsi/Kconfig | 1589 -- drivers/scsi/Kconfig.lowlevel | 1578 + 3 files changed, 1588

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 02:24:17PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: ... # drivers/Kconfig +source drivers/scsi/Kconfig + menu Device Drivers source drivers/base/Kconfig @@ -22,7 +24,7 @@ source drivers/misc/Kconfig source drivers/ide/Kconfig

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Stefan Richter
Adrian Bunk wrote: There should first be the lowlevel SCSI, SATA, USB etc. drivers, these drivers should select CONFIG_SCSI, and then the menu offering support for disk, CD,... ... If users who don't need it now enable CONFIG_SCSI (and drivers/ide/ usage is not that uncommon) that's a

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 03:20:06PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: There should first be the lowlevel SCSI, SATA, USB etc. drivers, these drivers should select CONFIG_SCSI, and then the menu offering support for disk, CD,... ... If users who don't need it now enable

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Stefan Richter
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 03:20:06PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: It still doesn't entirely clarify whether users need sd, sr, st, and whether thy need sd for the disk with root filesystem. If you want to do it in a really perfect way, help texts aren't the solution.

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 03:20:06PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: It still doesn't entirely clarify whether users need sd, sr, st, and whether thy need sd for the disk with root filesystem. If you want to

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Stefan Richter
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequently have to add such options into all menus which contain scsi low-level providers. Kconfig is a user interface, so perfect is what is best for the

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Jeff Garzik
Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequently have to add such options into all menus which contain scsi low-level providers. Kconfig is a user interface, so perfect is

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44:59AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequently have to add such options into all menus which contain scsi

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44:59AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. You would consequently have to

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Jeff Garzik
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Saturday 15 September 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44:59AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote: Perfect is in the eye of the beholder.

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-15 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Saturday 15 September 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 11:44:59AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: Stefan Richter wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:11:45PM +0200, Stefan

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-14 Thread Sam Ravnborg
Hi Stefan. Such a patch really calls for some minimal unifacation among the architectures. arch/alpha/Kconfig|2 arch/arm/Kconfig |2 arch/avr32/Kconfig|2 arch/blackfin/Kconfig |2 arch/cris/Kconfig |2

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:00:33PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote: Hi Stefan. Such a patch really calls for some minimal unifacation among the architectures. arch/alpha/Kconfig|2 arch/arm/Kconfig |2 arch/avr32/Kconfig|2

Re: [RFC PATCH] SCSI: split Kconfig menu into two

2007-09-14 Thread Stefan Richter
I wrote: Applies after patch SCSI: update Kconfig help text to indicate SCSI core's widespread usage, Actually the addition This menu also presents options for specific SCSI controllers... from that patch is then no longer true. These two patches could very well be collapsed into one. (I'll