Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Loeliger
> > I would prefer if the source for the (PDF-)documentation would be > available in some open, free and widely used meta-language, e.g. LaTeX > (or XML or txt2tags or ..., but I'm oldschool and prefer LaTeX ;) ). So > everyone could build it's copy in whatever f

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-10-18, Jon Loeliger wrote: >> >> I would prefer if the source for the (PDF-)documentation would be >> available in some open, free and widely used meta-language, e.g. LaTeX >> (or XML or txt2tags or ..., but I'm oldschool and prefer LaTeX ;) ). So >>

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-18 Thread Alexander Holler
Am 16.10.2012 15:22, schrieb Constantine Shulyupin: > Questions: > - have same issues with PDF documentation and datasheets? No. > - do you think documentation and datasheets in HTML format on a site > can be more useful than PDF? I would prefer if the source for the (PDF-)documen

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:29 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > Consider also, from their point of view, the issue of documentation > control. Notice that most companies don't provide download links for > old documentation... Yep. That's why I archive all datasheets I can get my hands on. Th

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > If there was not a problem here, all documentation would explicitly > state that it is able to be freely distributed. Lawyers like job security as much as the guy on the floor, theirs just involves different psychology. //Peter -- To unsubscribe from this list:

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:25:20AM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote: > Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > > You have to be careful of copyright infringement. > > Yeah, because a company might sue for datasheet copyright > infringement when someone is (if only potentially) buying > their product. > > I wou

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Tim Bird wrote: > Being able to identify a page of an existing online PDF is already > possible with URLs. See > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/125632/is-it-possible-to-link-to-a-bookmark-within-a-pdf-using-url-parameters Yes, I know. I already wrote about it

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > You have to be careful of copyright infringement. Yeah, because a company might sue for datasheet copyright infringement when someone is (if only potentially) buying their product. I would think that one through one more time. :) //Peter -- To unsubscribe from

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 04:05:55PM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote: > > Sometimes it is more easy just to copy paste and send by email part > > of documentation instead of using hyperlinks. > > A group collaborating around a given hardware certainly needs a > common repository of documentation. A file se

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Tim Bird
On 10/17/2012 12:26 PM, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Constantine Shulyupin wrote: >>> Peter, can you please just send me some links to most frequently >>> used online PDF? >> >> I don't have a particular PDF that is used more frequently than

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Constantine Shulyupin wrote: >> Peter, can you please just send me some links to most frequently >> used online PDF? > > I don't have a particular PDF that is used more frequently than > others. Here's one I used recently, for a common flash ch

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Constantine Shulyupin wrote: > >> - what PDF documentation do you use? (You can just drop a link to PDF, > >> for example http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/omap4430.pdf) > > > > I don't understand what you want to know. I have thousands of data > > sheets fo

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Constantine Shulyupin wrote: >> - what PDF documentation do you use? (You can just drop a link to PDF, >> for example http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/omap4430.pdf) > > I don't understand what you want to know

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-17 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Tim, In message <507da84a.2080...@am.sony.com> you wrote: > > Several years ago, CELF tried to add a similar capability to > MoinMoin (the ability to take arbitrary page lists, and > automatically publish them to PDF). Unfortunately, it didn't > work very well. The tools to produce PDF were

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-16 Thread Tim Bird
situations, but I agree that it is > also non-perfect for many other use cases. > >> Questions: >> - have same issues with PDF documentation and datasheets? >> - do you think documentation and datasheets in HTML format on a site >> can be more useful than PDF? > &

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-16 Thread Mikael Pettersson
times it is possible just to convert > PDF to HTML. > > Questions: > - have same issues with PDF documentation and datasheets? No. They work just fine. > - do you think documentation and datasheets in HTML format on a site > can be more useful than PDF? Fore brief overviews, html will d

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-16 Thread Wolfgang Denk
not so easy to manage a lot of PDF documents > sometimes with strange code in file names. It is not easy to store > and share links to documentation. PDF has a lot of advantages in many situations, but I agree that it is also non-perfect for many other use cases. > Questions: >

Re: PDF documentation

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Stuge
HTML. I strongly prefer working with PDF because it is the canonical documentation made available by the manufacturer and because my PDF readers are much much better than my HTML readers. > - have same issues with PDF documentation and datasheets? Personally no. > - do you think docume

Re: [Celinux-dev] PDF documentation

2012-10-16 Thread Bill Traynor
just to convert > PDF to HTML. > > Questions: > - have same issues with PDF documentation and datasheets? Yes, PDFs can be unwieldy. However, for a vendor, they provide an immutable format that allows vendors to disseminate technical information in one format, thereby decre

PDF documentation

2012-10-16 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
documentation instead of using hyperlinks. I found, that it is more easy work (and work collaboratively) with documentation in HTML format. Sometimes it is possible just to convert PDF to HTML. Questions: - have same issues with PDF documentation and datasheets? - do you think documentation and