Re: Java

2003-09-04 Thread Lee Begg
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I like NetBeans too, been using it at uni for Soft-Eng. > > I was using it for the cosc 12* courses due to Daves recommendation but > the course supervisor told him that it gave us an unfair advantage :( Hehe I hear that NetBeans has been in

Re: OT: Netwide Protests against EU Software Patents

2003-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Aren't SuperWaba, Sable and Kaffee Free? None of them are actual java and they don't include the java class library. Kaffee is close, but does not include fundemental classes such as BigInteger.

Re: Distro choice not easy for Windows people...

2003-09-04 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:11, you wrote: > On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:34, you wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 13:20, Zane Gilmore wrote: > > > I use it because that's what I know and as far as I'm concerned I just > > > can't be bothered setting up and learning another distro (yet). > > I know

Re: Java

2003-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I like NetBeans too, been using it at uni for Soft-Eng. > > Later > Lee Gegg I was using it for the cosc 12* courses due to Daves recommendation but the course supervisor told him that it gave us an unfair advantage :(

Re: Distro choice not easy for Windows people...

2003-09-04 Thread paul schulz
On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:34, you wrote: > On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 13:20, Zane Gilmore wrote: > > I use it because that's what I know and as far as I'm concerned I just > > can't be bothered setting up and learning another distro (yet). I use my > > machine for programming and email. I *don't*

Re: What is the "correct" place for data?

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Hellyar
There is no 'correct' place... But what I tend to do is.. Keep home drive stuff (and samba 'personal' drives) under /home. Put all other data under /data ... So in /data on my server here for example I've got: drwxr-x---4 chrish users8192 Jul 16 10:29 divx drwxrws--- 33 chrish

Re: SpamAssassin query...

2003-09-04 Thread Chad
My guess if your using sa 2.5+ is thats the Bayesian filter rating some thing as very likely to be spam (95%+ maybe) but the rules not rating it as spam. Thats a total guess mind you. If it is spam try sa-learn --spam --file ***. Chad > I'm just in the process of tweaking this, and noticing tha

Re: What is the "correct" place for data?

2003-09-04 Thread Tim Wright
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 14:16, Jim Cheetham wrote: > USB-connected drives. :-) Real ones, not flash jobbies ... > External ... well, that's not too big a deal. > Dick Smith sell the enclosures, I've heard comment that they seem to > work fine with Linux, although I've not tried them. The enclosures

Re: What is the "correct" place for data?

2003-09-04 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 13:01, Nick Rout wrote: > Is that a plan, or am I missing something? comments welcome. I also > intend to use LVM so I can change partition sizes and add new hard > drives on the fly (although I guess I'll have to power down to > physically add the drive, bummer) USB-connecte

Re: Command history for multiple shells

2003-09-04 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> > DWIM: 'cta' not found ... did you mean 'cat'? y/n > > > > But I don't think the code lived very long ... :-( > > on the contrary, i have seen this feature in somewhere recently, > the code (or at least the idea) definetly survived. tcsh has done this for over a decade now. I always turn it o

Re: tcsh vs bash (Re: Command history for multiple shells)

2003-09-04 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> > > No freaking way am I going back to tcsh :-) > > There are a few minor utter time-wasters in bash which I haven't found > > out how to fix > > which are? I am not interested in having dumb shell arguments. If I had had the time, I'd have picked the collective brain already :), therefore if y

Re: Command history for multiple shells

2003-09-04 Thread Mike Beattie
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:17:30AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: > > DWIM: 'cta' not found ... did you mean 'cat'? y/n > > But I don't think the code lived very long ... :-( > > on the contrary, i have seen this feature in somewhere recently, > the code (or at least the idea) definetly survived. zsh

What is the "correct" place for data?

2003-09-04 Thread Nick Rout
I am about to buld a new server for the office. My present server has data all over the show. home directories for stuff people have basically stuffed in there from their samba [home] share /usr/samba which is the root of all my shared samba directories for office wide stuff like precedents, cli

Re: NTFS [was Re: Dual boot Linux + Windows 2000 using Lilo?]

2003-09-04 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Rik T mobile wrote: > Incidentally, Phil, -f to force ntfsresize had absolutely no effect!? I am no expert on NTFS and have no ambition to be so. But is seems to me that the filesystem and the partitions are two separate entities with filesystem size=x sitting on partition si

Re: NTFS [was Re: Dual boot Linux + Windows 2000 using Lilo?]

2003-09-04 Thread Rik T mobile
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:14:04 +1200, Wayne Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone else got any ideas? BootIt Next Generation by Terabyte Unlimited is shareware and resizes NTFS partitions. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html Important: after you've made the floppy image and booted

Re: tcsh vs bash (Re: Command history for multiple shells)

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 10:23:22AM +1200, CF wrote: > > i find it terribly annoying that filename completion uses -d in tcsh > > and only works at the end of the buffer. > Thats cos ^D is delete char too. To do command completion in the middle > of a command do ^D ugh, three keys for what is one

Re: tcsh vs bash (Re: Command history for multiple shells)

2003-09-04 Thread CF
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 10:14, Martin Baehr wrote: > i find it terribly annoying that filename completion uses -d in tcsh > and only works at the end of the buffer. Thats cos ^D is delete char too. To do command completion in the middle of a command do ^D

Re: OT. Re: Command history for multiple shells

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:54:40AM +1200, CF wrote: > > > sick of distro wars, desktop wars, lets do shell wars :-) > > Bash them. > Phil... just sh! ksh! no yelling! greetings, martin. -- Pike Conference 2003 - Sep 25-27 - http://pike.ida.liu.se/conferences/2003/ -- interested in doing pike

Re: Command history for multiple shells

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:44:44AM +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote: > ssh - Super Shell, from Dublin in the mid 1980's ... > $ cta /etc/motd > DWIM: 'cta' not found ... did you mean 'cat'? y/n > > But I don't think the code lived very long ... :-( on the contrary, i have seen this feature in somewhere

tcsh vs bash (Re: Command history for multiple shells)

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:04:34PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > No freaking way am I going back to tcsh :-) > There are a few minor utter time-wasters in bash which I haven't found > out how to fix which are? i find it terribly annoying that filename completion uses -d in tcsh and only works

Re: List replies (Was: [Fwd: Re: Paradise spam + virus filtering])

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:05:07AM +1200, Yuri de Groot wrote: > I didn't know that a sender can over-ride the list reply-to > header. Cool. well that depends on the list software. it may either: - notice that there is already a Reply-To: header and not set one. (which leads to inconsistencies -

Re: Java

2003-09-04 Thread Roy Britten
On Friday, 5 September 2003 at 7:12am, I wrote: > you may have gcj "earlier" on the classpath. Correction: on your PATH, not classpath. Not enough coffee yet today, sigh. Cheers, Roy. -- Roy Britten National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research PO Box 8602, Christchurch, New Zealand P:

Re: Java

2003-09-04 Thread Roy Britten
Hi Anton, As noted by another poster, "java -version" is an excellent first step in resolving pretty much any Java problem. Yours is a not-uncommon problem with gcj. Try the Sun JVM [http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html] instead. If you already have the Sun JVM installed, you may have gcj

Re: Java

2003-09-04 Thread Vik Olliver
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 07:46, antonovich wrote: > properly? How do i find out? What would you recommend I do to keep NetBeans > working (I quite like it, though I know you are all probably going to tell me > I should use JBuilder...) but be able to install other IDEs? Actually, I'd recommend Ecli

Re: NTFS [was Re: Dual boot Linux + Windows 2000 using Lilo?]

2003-09-04 Thread Wayne Rooney
>>Anyone else got any ideas? BootIt Next Generation by Terabyte Unlimited is shareware and resizes NTFS partitions. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html Important: after you've made the floppy image and booted off it, click "cancel" at the first window. Wayne

Re: Distro choice not easy for Windows people...

2003-09-04 Thread Rik T mobile
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 20:52:38 +1200, Jason Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, Mandrake offers up to 16 Virtual desktops (though I use KDE so maybe that's a KDE thing) with apps displayed by their respective window size but not special icons AFAIK. Cheers J Can you drag & drop program wi

Re: less html2text and w3m (Re: converting html pages to text)

2003-09-04 Thread Peter Elliott
Hi there Sorry for delay in replying but still unwell (cue sadness and despondancy to descend on list) On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:19:13 +1200 Matthew Gregan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 07:03:38PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > > doesn't make it looke like I want to

Re: Fwd: Linux Newbie needs Help in Christchurch

2003-09-04 Thread Zane Gilmore
Welcome Kadim, You'll get a huge amount of information from this list but it might pay to filter it to a separate email folder and read the list's posts using threaded view. Then you can just delete the messages you aren't interested in. Otherwise you will be overwhelmed by the number of emails f

Re: Joining wav files...

2003-09-04 Thread Col
Chris Hellyar wrote: Hi-ho, Utility trivia for the wav gifted.. :-). I've got a problem where I want to join (concatenate) 30-70 small wav files together into one long one... They are sequentially numbered, (ie 1.wav, 2.wav) and I need to script the joining of them.. Doesn't matter how slow t

Re: Java

2003-09-04 Thread Lee Begg
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:46, antonovich wrote: > Can anyone give me some advice on this? I know that I have Java installed > "properly" as I can run NetBeans3.5. I did a windows and just downloaded > the bin and double-clicked. NetBeans works fine but I have tried to install > BlueJ and now Anyj and

Re: Distro choice not easy for Windows people...

2003-09-04 Thread Jason Greenwood
Yes, Mandrake offers up to 16 Virtual desktops (though I use KDE so maybe that's a KDE thing) with apps displayed by their respective window size but not special icons AFAIK. Cheers J Rik Tindall wrote: I'll jump in here, in case it helps the general comparison newbies need to make. RH9 use

Re: Distro choice not easy for Windows people...

2003-09-04 Thread Jason Greenwood
Fair enough. =) Zane Gilmore wrote: Jason Greenwood wrote: I couldn't agree more! I understand why people might like RH but I fail to see what it has that Mandrake doesn't... As far as I can see nothing ... Redhat has provided some irritations in the past which may make me move but unt

Java

2003-09-04 Thread antonovich
Can anyone give me some advice on this? I know that I have Java installed "properly" as I can run NetBeans3.5. I did a windows and just downloaded the bin and double-clicked. NetBeans works fine but I have tried to install BlueJ and now Anyj and I get these messages... Is it that JRE is not inst

Re: Fwd: Linux Newbie needs Help in Christchurch

2003-09-04 Thread kadim martana
Dear all,   Yes, I was desperately asking helps about how to get my winmodem works.   This early morning, after clicking here and there following some suggestions from LUG, finally it works...   I am very happy now starting my new life of net-browsing with Konquerer, and I notice that the connecti

Re: Screen Snapshots

2003-09-04 Thread David Mann
Tim Wright wrote: > Looks like I might have to do this --- both Gimp and ksnapshot are > *brainy* enough to hide the cursor when taking the shot. > > (I can see it disappear for a bit when using a software cursor) I'll suggest using the oldest *nix imaging program I've used: xv. I can't guarant

Re: Distro choice not easy for Windows people...

2003-09-04 Thread David Mann
Jim Cheetham wrote: > That is the main reason that I run a Mac OS X machine at home - > networking, printing, peripherals in general, email and web will "just > work". I went to the Apple show at the convention centre today. I've been getting p---d off at both Windows and the various XFree86 de

SpamAssassin query...

2003-09-04 Thread Steve Brorens
I'm just in the process of tweaking this, and noticing that every once in a while I get an 'odd' result like this: --snippet SpamAssassin report: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been attached along with this report, so you can recognize or

Joining wav files...

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Hellyar
Hi-ho, Utility trivia for the wav gifted.. :-). I've got a problem where I want to join (concatenate) 30-70 small wav files together into one long one... They are sequentially numbered, (ie 1.wav, 2.wav) and I need to script the joining of them.. Doesn't matter how slow the process is, as it'

Re: Distro for a server

2003-09-04 Thread Mike Beattie
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 10:36:13PM +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote: > Thanks for this script, Mike, always good to see other ways of setting > things up. > Greg Bodnar sent me details of an interesting apt addon, apt-listbugs > (and associated to that, reportbugs). > > apt-listbugs hooks into apt-get,

Telecom NZ ADSL Petition

2003-09-04 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
http://www.petitiononline.com/nzadsl/petition.html Online petition to Telecom regarding ADSL plans

Fwd: Linux Newbie needs Help in Christchurch

2003-09-04 Thread Yuri de Groot
I don't know who else here subs to NZLUG. I fwd it in case someone can help.=a0 =a0 - Message Forwarded on Thu 4/9/2003 - From: Centurion Computer Technology Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [nzlug] Linux Newbie needs Help in Christchurch We have