RE: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:07:23 +1300, Shane Hollis wrote > >Don Gould > >www.bvc.com.au > Well their page loaded quickly pity there is nothing on it or > behind it that showed up. It's my own domain name. I had a website up there with news and information about boradband in Australia. >

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Yuri de Groot
> Obviously it will need to be Linux compatable, and as I > stuffed up recently when I bought my (non-linux > supported) Canon i550 printer, I thought this time I > would get the good oil first If you have a linux laptop with usb, bring it with you when you go camera shopping. Plug the camera in

Re: Upgrading my PC, any pointers?

2003-11-26 Thread Chris Wilkinson
Hi there, Rowan Trau'e wrote: Hello Chris I use an ATI Radeon 9700 PRO graphics card in my system and it works wonderfully. I play UT2003 and it all looks good so I can only assume that ATI does support S3TC - in windows at least. Nice! It will certainly work in Windows, but without S3TC suppor

Re: Proprietary drivers (Was: Re: Upgrading my PC, any pointers?)

2003-11-26 Thread Chris Wilkinson
Hi there, Timothy Musson wrote: Nick Rout, 2003-11-26 09:30:23: after all you cannnot use the driver without buying the card. Perhaps the details necessary to open the driver would give away too much about their hardware details. If that is the case then they have a legitimate concern. graphics

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Robert Fisher
Unfortunately, in my experience, those 400 cameras do not include recent models. On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 04:08, Luuk Paulussen wrote: > >mostly they are usb. look at the usb database at http://www.qbik.ch > > > >It helps to know the vendor and product id. the shop should be able to > >supply this, b

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:51:00 +1300, Michael JasonSmith wrote > > What is the uni using then? And why it Telecom suggesting ADSL?!? I would > > have thought that was far to slow for a uni to be using. > Sorry, the ADSL was an alternative to the wireless link for student > access, not a replaceme

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Sometimes yes, sometimes it's more hassle than it's worth. =) Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:49:28 +1300 Jason Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Nick/List, Whilst I agree, even what should be a "standard", isn't. Many still use proprietary drivers instead of generic USB Mass S

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 17:36, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:20:29 +1300, Michael JasonSmith wrote > > On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 17:04, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > > > ... or proxy servers? > > There is a proxy server, an old Sun box that it is due for an upgrade > > :) That is how the ch

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:20:29 +1300, Michael JasonSmith wrote > On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 17:04, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > > ... or proxy servers? > There is a proxy server, an old Sun box that it is due for an upgrade > :) That is how the charges are tracked currently. Oh you are kidding me?! Is the

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 17:04, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > ... or proxy servers? There is a proxy server, an old Sun box that it is due for an upgrade :) That is how the charges are tracked currently. > How you bill it out and how you pay for it don't need to be the same do they? It worked out cheaper

RE: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Brad Beveridge
> > What is the reason for needing to shift out of the standard 2.4Ghz > > band? (sorry if I missed this & am asking a dumb question) > It is to stop non-CTA users from using the network. I think > the rationale is: fewer people, you know who they are, and Fair enough - but there would still b

RE: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 15:56, Brad Beveridge wrote: > How expensive are the freq shifters? Every client would also need > one, correct? Yes, a shifter per client. > Add the cost of a wireless card + antenna + shifter up & it may be > less attractive. IT will cost around $90 IIRC. The shifter is u

RE: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Brad Beveridge
> I agree with you... look at this link: > http://www.yobbo.co.nz/sales.htm > > At that price it gets hard > to justify very quickly. Exactly. There aren't many guys on that net at the moment (apparently) but if you're going to layout $500, then (for me at least) you need to be getting interne

RE: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:56:45 +1300, Brad Beveridge wrote > How expensive are the freq shifters? Every client would also need > one, correct? Add the cost of a wireless card + antenna + shifter up > & it may be less attractive. What is the reason for needing to shift > out of the standard 2.4Ghz

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:54:02 +1300, Michael JasonSmith wrote > On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 16:36, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > > Hummm shouldn't be. Wireless sites in AU get sub 10ms ping times. > > Gaming is one of the main reasons they do it over there. > Neh, maybe I am wrong. It frequently hap

RE: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Brad Beveridge
How expensive are the freq shifters? Every client would also need one, correct? Add the cost of a wireless card + antenna + shifter up & it may be less attractive. What is the reason for needing to shift out of the standard 2.4Ghz band? (sorry if I missed this & am asking a dumb question) Brad

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 16:36, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > Hummm... you can't lease space on 802.11abg frequencies... it's public spec > space. Quite right. That is why the frequency shifter is needed to move it off the public frequencies. > Hummm shouldn't be. Wireless sites in AU get sub 10ms

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:25:30 +1300, Michael JasonSmith wrote Interesting... Have you seen this project: http://www.yobbo.co.nz/WirelessCommunity.htm Seems a bit of duplication. > > I'd like to hear more, I have a keen interest in this. > The plan is something like the following (going from mem

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:49:28 +1300 Jason Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Nick/List, > > Whilst I agree, even what should be a "standard", isn't. Many still use > proprietary drivers instead of generic USB Mass Storage. We are an > online shop and despite wanting to help Linux users,

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 15:59, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:48:06 +1300, Michael JasonSmith wrote > > On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 15:14, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > > > Perhaps the uni needs to look at getting involved with the community > > > wireless thing that I see is happening here in

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Luuk Paulussen
mostly they are usb. look at the usb database at http://www.qbik.ch It helps to know the vendor and product id. the shop should be able to supply this, but i bet they can't. you can try plugging it into a linux box with usb enabled and perusing /proc/bus/usb/devices. then get on the net and look

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:48:06 +1300, Michael JasonSmith wrote > On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 15:14, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > > Perhaps the uni needs to look at getting involved with the community > > wireless thing that I see is happening here in Christchurch to provide > > a bit of competition and give Te

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
For anyone on list, be careful of the "cheapies" as they use Digital Zoom usually, not very good. Optical zoom is better but costs more. If image quality is not the prime concern (it isn't if you are just emailing the things) then Digital optics are fine. Cheers Jason Dale Anderson wrote: I

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Hi Nick/List, Whilst I agree, even what should be a "standard", isn't. Many still use proprietary drivers instead of generic USB Mass Storage. We are an online shop and despite wanting to help Linux users, many times, that data is just not made available to us by the manufacturer, therefore I

Re: OT - Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Hi All, The URL is: http://www.flashcards.co.nz/ Cheers Jason Steve Bell wrote: Can you post your url for that stuff? Cheers Agree'd and we have them for $44 online. Being in the business, I might also suggest a camera that support Compact Flash as you'll get the most bang for the bu

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 15:14, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > Perhaps the uni needs to look at getting involved with the community > wireless thing that I see is happening here in Christchurch to provide > a bit of competition and give Telecom some reason to think a bit > harder?! Wireless is an option tha

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Dale Anderson
I got a UMAX 3.3MP for a damn good price <$400 , interpolates to 6.6MP and uses SD card for storgage, access as external drive :) Cheers Dale. - Original Message - From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CLUG Canterbury Linux Users Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 200

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Rout
mostly they are usb. look at the usb database at http://www.qbik.ch It helps to know the vendor and product id. the shop should be able to supply this, but i bet they can't. you can try plugging it into a linux box with usb enabled and perusing /proc/bus/usb/devices. then get on the net and look a

RE: OT - Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Steve Bell
Can you post your url for that stuff? Cheers > Agree'd and we have them for $44 online. Being in the business, I might > also suggest a camera that support Compact Flash as you'll get the most > bang for the buck with that format. It's not the smallest format (thus > why Memory Stick, SD

RE: Tunnel Accounting

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
Shane, Any answer is better than no answer at all at present! :) I will do a google on "Dans Guardian" and see what shows up. I don't know who 'Carl C' is but I'm sure google will help me with that as well? I've been chatting to people in many different forum and on irc about this problem a

OT - Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Agree'd and we have them for $44 online. Being in the business, I might also suggest a camera that support Compact Flash as you'll get the most bang for the buck with that format. It's not the smallest format (thus why Memory Stick, SD and XD are becoming so popular) but it is the best value by

Re: digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Huan Yee Chew
I think the main concern would be the type of memory card you'll be using, as that determines the reader writer. It may be extra spending, but having a separate reader/writer is much easier to troubleshoot then trying to get a camera to talk to Linux. Just my 2cents worth. :) Huan >>> Dave<

Re: Linux Distros on Campus - Wireless?

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
Perhaps the uni needs to look at getting involved with the community wireless thing that I see is happening here in Christchurch to provide a bit of competition and give Telecom some reason to think a bit harder?! Telstra seem to be able to provide free mirror sites for all the major distro stu

digital camera

2003-11-26 Thread Dave
Hi all I'm in the market for an basic digital camera, nothing to flash (excuse the pun), maybe 3Mpix <$4-500) Obviously it will need to be Linux compatable, and as I stuffed up recently when I bought my (non-linux supported) Canon i550 printer, I thought this time I would get the good oil firs

Re: Linux Distros on Campus

2003-11-26 Thread Mike Beattie
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 12:59:46PM +1200, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > As for what Telecom are charging for national traffic, I'd be interested to > hear more about this. As an ADSL customer I get free national traffic. It > strikes me that there is something wrong in the system if a university can

Re: Linux Distros on Campus

2003-11-26 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:59, you wrote: > I'd like to be in on this as well. Could someone provide details as to > where to go? http://www.uciswww2.canterbury.ac.nz/unimaps/NavMap/navigate.asp Lecture Theatre A5 is in square c6 Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you f

Re: Linux Distros on Campus

2003-11-26 Thread Zane Gilmore
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 13:59, Don Gould - BVC wrote: > I'd like to be in on this as well. Could someone provide details as to where > to go? > As for what Telecom are charging for national traffic, I'd be interested to > hear more about this. As an ADSL customer I get free national traffic. It

Re: Linux Distros on Campus

2003-11-26 Thread Don Gould - BVC
I'd like to be in on this as well. Could someone provide details as to where to go? As for what Telecom are charging for national traffic, I'd be interested to hear more about this. As an ADSL customer I get free national traffic. It strikes me that there is something wrong in the system if

Re: Linux Distros on Campus

2003-11-26 Thread Zane Gilmore
I suppose you could come but there probably wouldn't be much point. We just want to discuss what is going to be offered by the campus IT infrastructure here. Unfortunately we can't offer it outside as Telecom are charging like "wounded bulls" for national traffic. Regards, Zane On Thu, 2003-11-2

Re: Upgrading my PC, any pointers?

2003-11-26 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 19:15, David Mann wrote: > Peter Elliott wrote: > > > i was referring to the hassles of actually getting the things to run. i'd > > deliberatly not made any mention to or about anything to do with closed or > > opensource. > > This is one big thing which is driving me away f

Re: Mozilla Config. File Help Please

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Hi Again, Thanks for the tips everyone, I found what I needed, will test out when I get home. The data was buried near the bottom. That's what I get for looking at it at 2:00AM last night. =) Cheers Jason Rex Johnston wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 23:07, Jason Greenwood wrote: Hi All, Any

Re: Mozilla Config. File Help Please

2003-11-26 Thread Rex Johnston
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 23:07, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Hi All, > > Anyone know which file email account info is stored in Mozilla? It > started giving me trouble and an account I added is not showing but I > know it's there because when I try to create a new account it says there > is already on

Re: Linux Distros on Campus

2003-11-26 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:46, you wrote: > There seems to be enough interest to go ahead so > I have booked A5 Is this posting an invite for non-'Varsity list members to attend? -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you find a virus apparently from me, it has forged the

Re: Mozilla Config. File Help Please

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Thanks, looked in there but don't see the details for each account listed, maybe I'll just have to look harder. ;) Cheers J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Anyone know which file email account info is stored in Mozilla? It started giving me trouble and an account I added is not showing but

Re: Mozilla Config. File Help Please

2003-11-26 Thread lonewolf
> > Hi All, > > Anyone know which file email account info is stored in > Mozilla? It started giving me trouble and an account I > added is not showing but I know it's there because when I > try to create a new account it says there is already one > there with those details! I need to hand edit t

Mozilla Config. File Help Please

2003-11-26 Thread Jason Greenwood
Hi All, Anyone know which file email account info is stored in Mozilla? It started giving me trouble and an account I added is not showing but I know it's there because when I try to create a new account it says there is already one there with those details! I need to hand edit the email accou

Re: Linux Distros on Campus

2003-11-26 Thread Zane Gilmore
There seems to be enough interest to go ahead so I have booked A5 So that's A5 Fri 2pm 28 Nov (:-/) For a discussion of Linux Distribution support on campus. If you want to argue for a distro please come with the information required to support an *informed* debate. (you will be required to leav

Re: IPTables - was: Quick? Newbie Q about hosts.allow

2003-11-26 Thread Rex Johnston
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 22:10, Kerry Mayes wrote: > Thanks Rex, yes that is what I'm trying to achieve. > > -Original Message- > From: Rex Johnston > snip > He's probably installed squid on the `drake box. He'll need to > configure IPCop so that outward TCP requests on port 80 are only

Re: Upgrading my PC, any pointers?

2003-11-26 Thread Luuk Paulussen
Chris wote Do ATI's drivers support S3TC hardware texture compression yet? I knew once upon a time that people wanting a high-end card to support playing Unreal tournament 2003 in linux were forced to use NVidia cards because ATI's drivers didn't support S3TC (nVidia's drivers do, UT2003 needs S3TC

IPTables - was: Quick? Newbie Q about hosts.allow

2003-11-26 Thread Kerry Mayes
Thanks Rex, yes that is what I'm trying to achieve. -Original Message- From: Rex Johnston snip He's probably installed squid on the `drake box. He'll need to configure IPCop so that outward TCP requests on port 80 are only available from the server, blocking the rest of the LAN. Thi

RE: Tunnel Accounting

2003-11-26 Thread Shane Hollis
Does Dans guardian allow you to set a limit for your users per ip address? I have seen so many packages recently that I just cant remember which does what for items like that. If so then could it be used to help sort through this problem by routing traffic through Dans guardian. I am sure there ar

Re: Konsole Q's

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:34:26 +1300 Hamish McBrearty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > Couple of questions relating to Konsole. > > 1. For some reason my Konsole is not startng in my home directory any > more, 2 directories lower actually, but I don't know how I did this, > or how to correc

Re: Fw: [nzlug] Maori language for KDE

2003-11-26 Thread Nick Rout
are you on nzlug? theres been quite a discussion there. Their mail archives are available online. On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:34:42+1300(NZDT) Wesley Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. > > I'll just have to get my full Internet connectivity back, then I'll > take it up. > > Wesley Parish

Re: Upgrading my PC, any pointers?

2003-11-26 Thread Rowan Trau'e
Hello Chris I use an ATI Radeon 9700 PRO graphics card in my system and it works wonderfully. I play UT2003 and it all looks good so I can only assume that ATI does support S3TC - in windows at least. I still can't get my system to load it into linux yet - I will have to keep working on it.

Proprietary drivers (Was: Re: Upgrading my PC, any pointers?)

2003-11-26 Thread Timothy Musson
Nick Rout, 2003-11-26 09:30:23: > [...snip...] excellent linux support does not have to equate to open > source drivers. I agree OS is preferable. I am not sure why the big 3 > 3d board manufacturers do not open their drivers. It's because too few people protest with their wallets, or discuss t

Re: Fw: [nzlug] Maori language for KDE

2003-11-26 Thread Wesley Parish
Yes. I'll just have to get my full Internet connectivity back, then I'll take it up. Wesley Parish Quoting Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > wasn't someone on this list interested in this? Speaking. > > > Forwarded by Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --- Orig

Re: Evolution settings

2003-11-26 Thread Andrew Packer
On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 11:53, Andrew Packer wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 02:38, Jaco Swart wrote: > > Can Evolution sort by thread? > > > =Andrew > > (Never thought of doing that myself but thank you for provoking me to > investigate it!) Ah, I don't know what happened here, but what I MEA

Re: Evolution settings

2003-11-26 Thread Andrew Packer
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 02:38, Jaco Swart wrote: > Can Evolution sort by thread? =Andrew (Never thought of doing that myself but thank you for provoking me to investigate it!)

Konsole Q's

2003-11-26 Thread Hamish McBrearty
Hi all Couple of questions relating to Konsole. 1. For some reason my Konsole is not startng in my home directory any more, 2 directories lower actually, but I don't know how I did this, or how to correct it. 2. Is it possible to choose a different font for Konsole? I seem to have a very limited