Laptop purchased

2004-03-25 Thread anton
Hi everyone, Just bought a Compaq/HP 2548 2.6gig celeron 256meg upgraded to 512meg for $1870 including gst (RAM was $90 installed). It also came with a free printer, which we have on trademe as I write! I am fairly certain we will sell it for over $70 (had an offer from someone else if no one b

Re: flashcard reader

2004-03-25 Thread anton
Carl Cerecke wrote: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Quick note to say that the 7-in-1 card reader from flashcards.co.nz works like a charme (well, with CF, didn't test others). All hardware should be like that: plug in, computer beeps, icon appears on desktop, clicking icon shows all the files in the file

Re: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:59, Don Gould wrote: > Question: ... > > What are the OSTC facialities used for on weekends? Fitness enhancement by young men carrying loads computer equipment up and down about 6 flights of stairs. :-) -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell NB. This PC runs Linux. If you f

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I agree - but see the beginning of this thread - parking and stairs can be a bit tough. I made the offer for up to 6 installations in my garage. Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Don Gould
Question: ... What are the OSTC facialities used for on weekends? I would have thought that resource would have been ideal for this sort of thing? (David?) Cheers Don > -Original Message- > From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:42 PM

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Don Gould
ya, I'm a starter. Don't have transport so anyone heading your way from Riccarton would be most appricated. Cheers Don > -Original Message- > From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 3:42 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Gentoo I

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
If you are a starter Don then I think that makes 5 which would be almost the limit in the garage anyway. If others can help (servers, expertise etc.) I can be flexible for the date - most Saturdays except Easter. I can supply the garage, the switch and the connection to www (soon to be 256kbs) R

Re: using dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread -:- dale robinson -:-
On 26 Mar 2004 at 12:27, Patrick Dunford wrote: > Craig FALCONER wrote: > > > I've done this with my new laptop drive, and I dd'd partitions rather than > > the drive. > > > > However, my old linux partition was 2 Gb, the new one is 8 Gb, but I can't > > see how to increase the size without refo

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Don Gould
When and where? (I don't know where Robert's garage lives :) Cheers Don > -Original Message- > From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 2:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Gentoo Installfest > > > I may live to regret this

Re: using dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Patrick Dunford
Craig FALCONER wrote: I've done this with my new laptop drive, and I dd'd partitions rather than the drive. However, my old linux partition was 2 Gb, the new one is 8 Gb, but I can't see how to increase the size without reformatting... Anyone done this before? isn't that what Gnu Parted does? Min

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread InfoHelp
Cheers Jim, Jim Cheetham wrote: Anyway, how does a beginner organise a beginner's help session? I've seen mutually-reinforcing beginners try to learn things, they end up like Skinner's pidgeons, reinforcing all sorts of odd ideas. I don't like to see that ... -jim An 'holistic' progression might

Re: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Chris Darby
Nick Rout wrote: So who wants to install gentoo. I do recommend it! And there is a lot of experience in it on the list now. Depending on what times things are happening I'd be keen to give it a shot. My specs should probably work (they go fine with knoppix): AsusA7N8X-X mobo AthlonXP 2600+ NVidia G

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
There is a good Indian takeaway just up the road from my place to warm you up. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 12:55 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest OK so is that two who want an install

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
There was another punter yesterday. 1+1=2 Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 12:48 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest

RE: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
No offence taken at all Nick. Basically what I meant was exactly what you put more eloquently. That is, there has not, as far as I understand, been a conscious decision not to have meetings, just that, as you said, we need topics, speakers and attendees. No point having meetings if we do not need

Re: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Rout
Yeah exactly what i did with the lappie last week, give it the binaries to get it workable, then compile the updates at your leisure. true you could spend a long session on the workings of emerge etcat qpkg etc etc. Probably a good idea. to do it just as you suggest. anyway we need some numbers t

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Brad Beveridge
Hey, just remember from whom you got the idea to get that shirt! As to the GenInstall, my thoughts would be that punters would be best getting a GRP install done, with KDE, X, etc going. Then a session on using emerge to maintain your distro. The settings are the hard part to get right & that is

Re: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Rout
OK so is that two who want an install or two who have machines to offer for compiling help? It may be a little OTT to set up something for two installs. So who wants to install gentoo. I do recommend it! And there is a lot of experience in it on the list now. lets hope it doesn't snow this time!

Re: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread InfoHelp
True, redundant iteration. apologies: 1 = 1 :-) Regards, Rik Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I believe that makes two. Correct? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Rout
Look we had some discussion at the beginning of the year as to what people wanted. there was no coherent body of opinion as to what was wanted. There was talk of an installfest in March, then April then May. However no-one has actually done anything. (BTW this is not the gentoo installfest being

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 11:53, Carl Cerecke wrote: > How many "MS Windows" meetings are held in Chch? (Ones organised by the > users only, not some Corporate) Well, most medium-sized computer-equipped offices function as self-help user groups for Windows. It's the small businesses with only one comp

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread InfoHelp
Great! They are still on for the future then? Keen to help organise a timetable & topics, ~/newbie/rik Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: Who said we were losing our meetings? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp

Re: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch

2004-03-25 Thread Tom Munro Glass
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:48, Brad Beveridge wrote: > Upon further reading, the Puretek modem has no firewall, only NAT. The > Billion does have firewall support. I'm probably going to run IPCop behind the router anyway, but I figured that two firewalls are better than one, and the reason for wanti

RE: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Who said we were losing our meetings? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 11:44 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Canterbury Linux Users

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:43, InfoHelp wrote: > The public meetings give newbies a chance to 'suck&see' Linux. But that's not the _only_ reason for having CLUG. > The loss of public meetings is a loss to Linux advocacy. True. > Simple? No, There is a great deal more to our club and mail list than me

RE: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
I believe that makes two. Correct? Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: InfoHelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 11:41 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest Count

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread InfoHelp
Fair comment re meeting work Carl, The ones arranged for 6 May and 30 June (optional) are available for CLUG to utilise as it sees fit. Maybe they won't fly at all. But if Volker remains willing to guide us through some new material, then we do have a start for stimulating interest. Carl Cerec

RE: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 11:42, Craig FALCONER wrote: > You can't boot from a loopback file... can you? Technically, I suppose you could by loading the disk into a ramdisk and booting from that. I do not think it would be easy :). -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Carl Cerecke
InfoHelp wrote: The public meetings give newbies a chance to 'suck&see' Linux. The loss of public meetings is a loss to Linux advocacy. Simple? yes. Do I agree? Maybe; maybe not. The loss of public meetings reflects a disinterest in organising them, most likely stemming from the difficulty get

RE: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch

2004-03-25 Thread Brad Beveridge
Upon further reading, the Puretek modem has no firewall, only NAT. The Billion does have firewall support. > -Original Message- > From: Brad Beveridge > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch > > > Well, they d

RE: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Craig FALCONER
You can't boot from a loopback file... can you? Something along the lines of root=/dev/hda1/bigfile.dd ? -Original Message- From: Michael JasonSmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 10:16 a.m. To: linux users Subject: Re: usind dd to clone hard drive On Fri, 2004-0

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread InfoHelp
The public meetings give newbies a chance to 'suck&see' Linux. The loss of public meetings is a loss to Linux advocacy. Simple? Learning... Carl Cerecke wrote: InfoHelp wrote: then I will sadly let it go too: any attachment to the tradition of regular, organised, face-to-face Linux newbie s

RE: Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch

2004-03-25 Thread Brad Beveridge
Well, they don't have it in stock :) Any reason not to go for the cheaper Puretek PT-3813? Router, switch, webinterface. Brad > -Original Message- > From: Craig FALCONER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Recommendations

Re: Gentoo Installfest

2004-03-25 Thread InfoHelp
Count me in when starting please, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:53, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I can provide a couple of 2GHz P4 laptops for distcc My son Caleb can bring an AthlonXP-2500+ I can provide a p2 400 as well if needed, on which I could put about 2 GB

using dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Craig FALCONER
I've done this with my new laptop drive, and I dd'd partitions rather than the drive. However, my old linux partition was 2 Gb, the new one is 8 Gb, but I can't see how to increase the size without reformatting... Anyone done this before? -Original Message- From: gjw49 [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Recommendations for ADSL modem/switch

2004-03-25 Thread Craig FALCONER
Dunno about it, but www.ascent.co.nz has a "Billion 7100S ADSL Router" for $131 At that price you can have a separate switch. -Original Message- From: Tom Munro Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2004 5:33 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recommendations for ADSL

OT - laptop advice

2004-03-25 Thread Craig FALCONER
Warehouse Stationery has the Toshiba A10 Satellite for $1700ish +GST Its legacy free with one PCMCIA slot, 30 Gb drive, 256 Mb ram (shared) etc Theres a miniPCI wireless option, but I don't know about price or linux support. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Carl Cerecke
InfoHelp wrote: then I will sadly let it go too: any attachment to the tradition of regular, organised, face-to-face Linux newbie support via Canterbury Linux Users Group. The human interface? The public institution being edited down in CINCH? A place where newbies know they can show up to lear

Wanted: Advice on PDAs

2004-03-25 Thread Craig FALCONER
I concur - my pipedream machine would be an ipaq with bluetooth and wireless ethernet, and a decent folding keyboard. Michael - thanks for the link, now theres another place to drool over gear :-\ -Original Message- From: Michael JasonSmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 Mar

Wanted: Advice on PDAs

2004-03-25 Thread Craig FALCONER
Dunno about all that, but I've got an old M100 palm (2 Mb ram) and I've never used the windows software... I simply installed jpilot and off we go. If you go Palm theres no syncing worries with either OS. As for MP3 and screens, that's hardware on the device. -Original Message- From: Ja

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread InfoHelp
Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:35:09 +1200 InfoHelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there is no momentum for newbie support around these, then I will sadly to let it go too. not sure what you are meaning? then I will sadly let it go too: any attachment to the tradition of regu

Re: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:35:09 +1200 InfoHelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If there is no momentum for newbie support around these, then I will > sadly to let it go too. not sure what you are meaning? -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread InfoHelp
Hi Bjorn & CLUG, Is it not appropriate for us to notify on the group website the (few) upcoming meeting dates? Namely: Thurs 6 May (& Weds 30 June) at the Sydenham Community Centre hall. If there is no momentum for newbie support around these, then I will sadly to let it go too. Cheers ~/new

Re: flashcard reader

2004-03-25 Thread Carl Cerecke
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Quick note to say that the 7-in-1 card reader from flashcards.co.nz works like a charme (well, with CF, didn't test others). All hardware should be like that: plug in, computer beeps, icon appears on desktop, clicking icon shows all the files in the file manager. Right click

Re: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 10:16:23 +1200 Michael JasonSmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 08:49, gjw49 wrote: > > Just out of interest, is there any reason why it shouldn't work going from a > > smaller hard disk to a larger hard disk? > I have no reason, but I would not do it no

Re: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 08:49, gjw49 wrote: > Just out of interest, is there any reason why it shouldn't work going from a > smaller hard disk to a larger hard disk? I have no reason, but I would not do it none the less :) I would just DD the disk to a file on the larger disk and mount the image t

Re: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:12, Gareth Williams wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:43, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:37, Paul William wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Is a simple dd: > > > dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx > > > capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? > > > > if the two devices

Re: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Gareth Williams
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:43, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:37, Paul William wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Is a simple dd: > > dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx > > capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? > > if the two devices are identical, unconditionally, yes. > if hdx is smaller than hdc,

RE: Yast going GPL - CLUG

2004-03-25 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Yes and I just got new lenses for my reading glasses. (That's why I knew how to spell Presbyopia) Regards, Robert Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windscreen. -Original Message- From: Zane Gilmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:33 p.m. To:

Re: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread gjw49
Just out of interest, is there any reason why it shouldn't work going from a smaller hard disk to a larger hard disk? I've used something similar to backup a disk image to a file on a larger disk - sending the output of dd across to another machine by piping it through netcat, where it's writt

Re: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:37, Paul William wrote: > Hi all, > > Is a simple dd: > dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx > capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? if the two devices are identical, unconditionally, yes. if hdx is smaller than hdc, then effectively no. if hdx is larger than hdc, then yes, and you then h

Re: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Steve Holdoway
Hi Paul, The disks should be the same size if you're doing that. Otherwise, do it on a per partition basis, having set the new partitions up the same as the old ones. You may want to play with the bs option to improve performance, but I doubt you've got that luxury! ...and make sure you've got

Re: usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Rex Johnston
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 07:37, Paul William wrote: > Is a simple dd: > dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx > capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? hdc is nearly dead so I will be > getting a replacement tomorrow and I don't fell like reinstalling > everything. That'll work, copying everything including partiti

Re: flashcard reader

2004-03-25 Thread Paul William
works fine with usb 2 although I have not done any speed tests. I imagine the media I am using is slower than my usb 2 card. Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Quick note to say that the 7-in-1 card reader from flashcards.co.nz works like a charme (well, with CF, didn't test others). All hardware should be l

usind dd to clone hard drive

2004-03-25 Thread Paul William
Hi all, Is a simple dd: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdx capable of 'cloning' hdc into hdx? hdc is nearly dead so I will be getting a replacement tomorrow and I don't fell like reinstalling everything. Cheers Paul

flashcard reader

2004-03-25 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Quick note to say that the 7-in-1 card reader from flashcards.co.nz works like a charme (well, with CF, didn't test others). All hardware should be like that: plug in, computer beeps, icon appears on desktop, clicking icon shows all the files in the file manager. Right click icon, unmount, unplug,

RE: Yast going GPL - CLUG

2004-03-25 Thread Zane Gilmore
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 09:35, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: > Presbyopia is an age-associated progressive loss of the focusing power of > the lens. This results in difficulty seeing objects close-up. Arf arf! Thanks Rob :-/ (aren't you older than me? :-) -- -

Fwd: Re: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
Subject: Re: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:40 From: Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 18:56, Bjorn Nilsen wrote: > Hi Margaret, > > Looks good, we are currently not running regular meetings, I think it > would be best to

Re: Wanted: Advice on PDAs

2004-03-25 Thread Michael JasonSmith
On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 21:13, Paul William wrote: > > Unistrokes *is* the single-stroke "funny" letters. > oops :) meant the multistroke letters. I guessed you did, but (for once) I wanted to make sure there was no confusion :) -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldo

RE: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group

2004-03-25 Thread David Taylor
I found the list through the library. It was very helpful to have the CINCH database to refer to. If we are not meeting at the same place all the time I suggest we also amend the location to "Meeting places and times are discussed on the list" and add some basic subscribe info if it is not there al

Re: Wanted: Advice on PDAs

2004-03-25 Thread Paul William
Michael JasonSmith wrote: On Tue, 2004-03-23 at 18:37, Paul William wrote: Unistrokes can take a while to get used to, but it is fairly fast. The but much slower than single stroke 'funny' letters :( Unistrokes *is* the single-stroke "funny" letters. oops :) meant the multistroke letters. Th