[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Last night I downloaded the entire SUSE directory tree (7.2Gb) from
> > Jetstreamgames and used it for an FTP installation on an old box here at
> > work.
> >
> > All hardware was detected, even the isa soundcard. I am very impressed
> > with this distro. Entire install
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> > The common wisdom seems to be that a network install will beat a cd
> > install simply because the medium is faster, and you do not have ot futz
> > around with swapping cd's etc.
>
> Not really. By far the most time is taken up by uncompressing the
> archives and writing
Try running gnome-panel first. It should open a new gnome pannely which you
can move to some other part of the desktop and resize. Then stick the
character app on it. Gnome panel should have no problems running in kde along
side kicker.
Chad
Roy Britten wrote:
> On 01/07/04 14:08, Michael Jaso
Regards, Robert
-Original Message-
From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 5:12 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Suse Problem
> No I have not removed anything. Should I try reinstalling something?
That's not likely to solve an
On Thursday 01 July 2004 16:10, Robert Fisher wrote:
> On this old box I just installed SUSE on, I get some strange results in a
> terminal. I did not get this with the laptop I tried yesterday. Any ides?
Please could you let ups know exactly what "this old box" actually is?
cat /proc/cpuinfo
Is
Yuri de Groot wrote:
Timothy Musson wrote:
(FWIW, and not surprisingly, I would be pretty happy if a
GNU user group or mailing list appears. I'm glad Linux
Cobble together a list server, start it up and I'll be one
of your first subscribers.
Very well, http://mailhub.ourshack.com/mailman/listinfo/g
> No I have not removed anything. Should I try reinstalling something?
That's not likely to solve anything unless the cause of the problem can
be rectified first. Was there an error during installation which you
missed? Poke around in /var/log/YaST2/ which has the yast logfiles.
ping is in package
Carl Cerecke wrote:
InfoHelp wrote:
By settling on a standard set of tools (the best deducible) &
deepening the knowledge of them, CLUG would spend less time moving in
circles.
I like circles :-) But what do you mean by best?
I do too - better than (being) squares :-)
- That to which by our con
InfoHelp wrote:
Is the choice one of which hook we use? Cheap entertainment, or skills
for life? The young of today know the difference.
How about "just works with the hardware/peripherals they have" and
"doesn't do *less* than windows" ? "First, do no harm".
In general, Mandrake has been a good
Regards, Robert
-Original Message-
From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 4:48 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Suse Problem
Looks pretty screwed.
> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
> l
/home/robert_fisher/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/game
s:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin
Regards, Robert
-Original Message-
From: Paul William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 4:40 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Looks pretty screwed.
> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
The locale files are not installed? They're part
Yes, that was to say CompSci students will be going to Installfest, and
we want to encourage more youth to undertake CompSci training, in "CS
departments around the world", through UGs, or both.
Always open to updates in thinking though :-) Clarity is important.
Carl Cerecke wrote:
InfoHelp wro
what is the output of
#echo $PATH
Robert Fisher wrote:
On this old box I just installed SUSE on, I get some strange results in a terminal. I
did not get this with the laptop I tried yesterday. Any ides?
Password:
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cann
InfoHelp wrote:
So I guess we're agreeing on the need to up our game. CompSci students
are the target audience,
Eh? They already do most of their education on Linux, at most CS
departments around the world.
Cheers,
Carl.
Thanks Nick, & best of luck in organising it.
I think there are problems with the framework, as to why it's left to
you to try and organise this.
And standardisation has been attempted, around Mandrake, which I
acknowledge. For MP3's & DVD's it could be the best choice. I don't know
because I d
InfoHelp wrote:
By settling on a standard set of tools (the best deducible) & deepening
the knowledge of them, CLUG would spend less time moving in circles.
I like circles :-) But what do you mean by best?
Sharing a pointer from Jim last night, if I remember correctly, the GCC
compiler tools were
On Thu 01 Jul 2004 15:58:48 NZST +1200, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote:
> And the answer to the question which was on everybody's lips last night
> is..
>
> http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=2140
Guessing what that question might have been, I'd like to point out that
On this old box I just installed SUSE on, I get some strange results in a terminal. I
did not get this with the laptop I tried yesterday. Any ides?
Password:
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or
And the answer to the question which was on everybody's lips last night
is..
http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=2140
Regards, Robert
On Thu 01 Jul 2004 15:25:16 NZST +1200, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote:
> Do you have an exclusive club Volker?
Of course! Monthly dues payable directly to me.
--
Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header
http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do no
If you want to deepen knowledge of them thats cool, go fo rit. If you
want people to settle (as a group) on a stanndard set of tools then
dream oon. people use linux for choice, not lock in. Some people want to
use Intel's compiler, i believe it will compile the kernel.
OK if you want to deepen kn
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:20:11 +1200
Yuri de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nick Rout wrote:
> > Sorry to Roger and anyone else that I did not get that
> > demo up and running last night, the meeting seemed to
> > degenerate into a free for all after the short and fairly
> > inconclusive instal
Please excuse my hangover, catching up here..
My post may not clearly have made it's main point, which Chad has drawn
out -
By settling on a standard set of tools (the best deducible) & deepening
the knowledge of them, CLUG would spend less time moving in circles.
Sharing a pointer from Jim las
Do you have an exclusive club Volker?
Regards, Robert
-Original Message-
From: Zane Gilmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 2:46 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: SUSE 9.1
Robert Fisher wrote:
> Last night I downloaded the entire SUSE director
> The common wisdom seems to be that a network install will beat a cd
> install simply because the medium is faster, and you do not have ot futz
> around with swapping cd's etc.
Not really. By far the most time is taken up by uncompressing the
archives and writing a gazillion files to disk. Theref
Nick Rout wrote:
> Sorry to Roger and anyone else that I did not get that
> demo up and running last night, the meeting seemed to
> degenerate into a free for all after the short and fairly
> inconclusive installfest discussion.
Darn - missed it. Hard to work until 9pm last night.
> IPCOP is fa
> Last night I downloaded the entire SUSE directory tree (7.2Gb) from
> Jetstreamgames and used it for an FTP installation on an old box here at
> work.
>
> All hardware was detected, even the isa soundcard. I am very impressed
> with this distro. Entire installation on the PII, 300Mhz, 256Mb ram t
Robert Fisher wrote:
Last night I downloaded the entire SUSE directory tree (7.2Gb) from Jetstreamgames and
used it for an FTP installation on an old box here at work.
All hardware was detected, even the isa soundcard. I am very impressed with this
distro. Entire installation on the PII, 300Mhz,
Timothy Musson wrote:
> (FWIW, and not surprisingly, I would be pretty happy if a
> GNU user group or mailing list appears. I'm glad Linux
> exists, and I'm grateful to Linus, but the FSF is the
> cause I'm interested in. It'd be neat to be able to talk
> about that side of things without risking a
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 14:15, Roy Britten wrote:
> > Have you tried running the bin? It may appear in the panel or (worst
> > case) appear in its own window.
>
> Just hangs. Not even an error message.
I was wrong about the worst case, sorry.
As a hack you could paste some commonly used characters
Last night I downloaded the entire SUSE directory tree (7.2Gb) from Jetstreamgames and
used it for an FTP installation on an old box here at work.
All hardware was detected, even the isa soundcard. I am very impressed with this
distro. Entire installation on the PII, 300Mhz, 256Mb ram took less
On 01/07/04 14:08, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
Have you tried running the bin? It may appear in the panel or (worst
case) appear in its own window.
Just hangs. Not even an error message.
Cheers,
Roy.
--
Roy Britten
National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research
PO Box 8602, Christchurch, New Ze
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 13:59, Roy Britten wrote:
> > I find the GNOME Character Palette applet to be the simplest way of
> > entering Unicode characters into an application
> Looks good. Under Gnome. I'm thinking that
> /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-applets/charpick_applet2 is probably the binary.
Have you
Hi,
On 01/07/04 11:29, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
Well â writing from experience â I find the GNOME Character Palette
applet to be the simplest way of entering Unicode characters into an
application, such as an email.
â It should work under KDE.
Looks good. Under Gnome. I'm thinking that
/opt/gnom
Rob had a good idea - use two pairs for each of two sockets.
Then at the other end put each pair of pairs to a different socket on the
ethernet hub/switch.
A small distribution switch is also a workable idea - but they need power.
Is there any reason to not wire more proper sockets in place?
Y
Sorry, once again I did not fully read your first post. Ignore my reply.
Regards, Robert
-Original Message-
From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:25 p.m.
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:RE: OT but not political - getting
Cat5 cable has 8 wires and only 4 are usually used.
You can buy splitters, one for each end which allow for either 2 x PC's, 1
PC plus Phone or 2 x phones.
Dataworld next to us have them.
Regards, Robert
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday,
Get two Xnet 8 Port 10/100Mbps Switches for $70 from TasTech then, refer
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~centralp/modems.htm
David Stephen
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2004 12:12 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT but not po
Nick Rout wrote:
I have one ether net connection in my room at the office, but sometimes
I bring the laptop in and have to unplug the desktop to use the lappie
on the net. frustrating.
I am in no position to be running more wiring from the hub room to my
office.
I have a 5 port 10M hub that I could
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:07:03 +1200
Andrew Errington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:59, you wrote:
> > I have one ether net connection in my room at the office, but sometimes
> > I bring the laptop in and have to unplug the desktop to use the lappie
> > on the net. frustrating
Nick Rout wrote:
I have one ether net connection in my room at the office, but sometimes
I bring the laptop in and have to unplug the desktop to use the lappie
on the net. frustrating.
If the desktop was running linux, you could chuck in another network
card, enable traffic forwarding and you'd be
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:59, you wrote:
> I have one ether net connection in my room at the office, but sometimes
> I bring the laptop in and have to unplug the desktop to use the lappie
> on the net. frustrating.
>
> I am in no position to be running more wiring from the hub room to my
> office.
>
>
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Derek Smithies wrote:
> Exactly. GNU supplied the compiler, and thus Linus could actually build
> his code. It is an often forgotten point, that without the compiler Linux
> would have struggled.
I had forgotten the compiler.
> Many web reviews credit the presence of the inte
I have one ether net connection in my room at the office, but sometimes
I bring the laptop in and have to unplug the desktop to use the lappie
on the net. frustrating.
I am in no position to be running more wiring from the hub room to my
office.
I have a 5 port 10M hub that I could use within my
Hi,
Phil write::
> The GNU utils and apps were actively being developed and collected before
> the Linux kernel. I rather doubt if Linus would have bothered with his
> kernel unless the GNU project had made its collection. The Linux kernel
> would have been completely useless otherwise.
Exactl
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 10:45, Roy Britten wrote:
> Looking for the simplest possible way to enter Unicode characters into,
> say, an email or document.
Well â writing from experience â I find the GNOME Character Palette
applet to be the simplest way of entering Unicode characters into an
applicatio
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Zane Gilmore wrote:
> You are quite wrong about all that.
> GNU and the FSF was already well established before Linus Torvalds
> started university.
>
> GNU etc is what started Linux *not* the other way 'round. Without GNU
> (unarguably) and (arguably) the GPL, Linux would not
Hi,
Looking for the simplest possible way to enter Unicode characters into,
say, an email or document. I am using the Unicode Character Map
(gucharmap) which requires several clicks to locate the character of
choice from among the thousands on offer, and doesn't appear to have any
shortcuts. Th
Xandros.. -M$ commercial dynamic. This is important, it is why we have
"Linux", and it is best targetted, imho, by acknowledging the GNU/Linux flag.
GNU/Linux offers the best roadmap to developing both the programmers and the
software essential to a *free* future.
Does it really matter what
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:39:33 +1200
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >better IMHO to spend $200 on an old headless machine, install a linux
> >imap server on it and log in from your laptop over the network. cheaper
> >than vmware :-)
> >
> >
> >
>
> Or set up an IPcop box and use for t
> >...I'll wager the drinks bill that the conversation will
> >not be any different to the conversations we have at meetings already.
> Excellent. I accept on everyone else's behalf. I'm sure we can make the
> conversation different from normal if sufficiently motivated.
ROTFL... is this called
Chad wrote:
> As for GNU, Linux makes use of GNU tools the compiler and various other
utilities and FSF ideas. But much of the OSS software (Kde, Gnome, OO.org,
TheGimp) seems to have been developed firstly for Linux rather than GNU and
should linux not have existed I'd doubt much of that softwa
Sorry to Roger and anyone else that I did not get that demo up and
running last night, the meeting seemed to degenerate into a free for all
after the short and fairly inconclusive installfest discussion.
IPCOP is fairly easy to set up (says me who has done it many times). If
anyone wants help wi
Nick Rout wrote:
[snip]
...I'll wager the drinks bill that the conversation will
not be any different to the conversations we have at meetings already.
Excellent. I accept on everyone else's behalf. I'm sure we can make the
conversation different from normal if sufficiently motivated.
Douglas.
What laptop? Most are fairly easy to remove the hard drive and attach a 2.5
- 3.5 adapter then copy stuff on a desktop machine.
-Original Message-
From: Wesley Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 2004 2:58 p.m.
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Timothy Musson wrote:
[snip]
I would be pretty happy if a GNU user group
or mailing list appears. I'm glad Linux exists, and I'm grateful to
Linus, but the FSF is the cause I'm interested in. It'd be neat to be
able to talk about that side of things without risking annoying 90% of
the group.)
Yo
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:19:15 +1200
Timothy Musson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Volker Kuhlmann, 2004-07-01 08:08:54:
> > On Thu 01 Jul 2004 06:55:14 NZST +1200, Timothy Musson wrote:
> > > "The GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program."
> > > -- The very first sentence at http://www.gimp.org/
http://www.mu.org/~mux/wtf/
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:25:03 +1200
Ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where do you download it?
> Ive been googling for a few minutes and thats just about all my
> attention span allows me.
>
> Nick Rout wrote:
>
> >I just found wtf by accident and installed it immedia
Volker Kuhlmann, 2004-07-01 08:08:54:
> On Thu 01 Jul 2004 06:55:14 NZST +1200, Timothy Musson wrote:
> > "The GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program."
> > -- The very first sentence at http://www.gimp.org/
> Sorry you're wrong there
Copy/paste is working correctly.
> and the above is mi
Chad wrote:
[snip]
As for GNU, Linux makes use of GNU tools the compiler and various other
utilities and FSF ideas. But much of the OSS software (Kde, Gnome, OO.org,
TheGimp) seems to have been developed firstly for Linux rather than GNU and
should linux not have existed I'd doubt much of that s
I don't know how helpful this is and it may sound like a troll, but the GIMP and
GTK can both be used on windows, so it doesn't really need an X server although
I guess windows does have a kernel.
> The gimp needs a kernel and an X server, neither are/were GNU. It
> provides its own widget libra
> I _did_ mean to suggest that The GIMP
> and GNOME would not have happened without GNU, and they don't mind
The gimp needs a kernel and an X server, neither are/were GNU. It
provides its own widget library (gtk, no gnome without gimp). On
Solaris, no further GNU anything would be needed so your
Timothy Musson, 2004-07-01 06:55:14:
> Chad, 2004-06-30 17:36:22:
> > As for GNU, Linux makes use of GNU tools the compiler and various
> > other utilities and FSF ideas. But much of the OSS software (Kde,
> > Gnome, OO.org, TheGimp) seems to have been developed firstly for Linux
> > rather than GN
On Thu 01 Jul 2004 06:55:14 NZST +1200, Timothy Musson wrote:
> Chad, 2004-06-30 17:36:22:
> > As for GNU, Linux makes use of GNU tools the compiler and various
> > other utilities and FSF ideas. But much of the OSS software (Kde,
> > Gnome, OO.org, TheGimp) seems to have been developed firstly fo
Phill Coxon wrote:
Steve sent me this which works great.
Thanks Nick & Rex for your suggestions to.
I can't resist posting another couple of options. In sed, it's a one-liner:
$ sed -e 's/.*/&\n"&"\n[&]/' infile > outfile
It's also possible to read line-by-line in a shell script without
messin
Chad, 2004-06-30 17:36:22:
> As for GNU, Linux makes use of GNU tools the compiler and various
> other utilities and FSF ideas. But much of the OSS software (Kde,
> Gnome, OO.org, TheGimp) seems to have been developed firstly for Linux
> rather than GNU and should linux not have existed I'd doubt m
I have a USB to ethernet adapter if you want to use it.
Drop me a line and I will arange for you to pick it up or I can drop it off.
Graeme.
Wesley Parish wrote:
Hi.
At the St Albans Community Resource Centre I've encountered a fellow volunteer
with a problem - a Win98 laptop with Win98 problems, a
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:25, Ed wrote:
> Where do you download it?
> Ive been googling for a few minutes and thats just about all my
> attention span allows me.
Part of the bsd-games package on slackware, and possibly others.
hads
--
Anyone who uses the phrase "easy as taking candy from a baby" ha
> Where do you download it?
I asked Nick offlist hoping he'd post it, but he answered offlist as
well:
http://www.mu.org/~mux/wtf/
--
Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header
http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Where do you download it?
Ive been googling for a few minutes and thats just about all my
attention span allows me.
Nick Rout wrote:
I just found wtf by accident and installed it immediately
sample output:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ wtf is afaik
AFAIK: as far as I know
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ wtf
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