no its working for me
amsn
On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 19:11, Robert Fisher wrote:
> Am I the only one having trouble with MSN messaging tonight?
> (I am using Kopete)
Am I the only one having trouble with MSN messaging tonight?
(I am using Kopete)
--
Robert Fisher
(aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish)
www.fisher.net.nz
BOFH Excuse #399:
We are a 100% Microsoft Shop.
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:19, C. Falconer wrote:
>
> Interested? Opinions? Make reply!
I recall that we had a late response to the Ken Yap (etherboot) session but in
the end it was a great night. (I went home and installed LTSP)
Go for it!
--
Robert Fisher
(aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish)
I'm going to keep meetings going at the (lower cost) Sydenham venue as
long as possible next year, to complement St Albans activities. If
nothing gets sorted for the latter fixture at that time, you may extend
invitations around the Sydenham booking date of 07 February 2005, if you
can & so wis
Thanks for the info Roger,
Roger Searle wrote:
Windows reports an Agere Systems AC97.
This was where you struck oil - these modems are (one of the few)
recognised by SuSe out of the box - the best to have. Lucky you.
lspci: reports an Intel AC'97.
This is where Linuxes can be less than helpful, i
definitely go for it.
On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 18:19, C. Falconer wrote:
> I've had an approach from the Waikato LUG expressing an interest in
> some inter-LUG cooperation.
>
> With Linuxconf happening in Australia in January, there will be a
> bunch of linux noteable people just over there. If t
Title: Message
I've had an approach
from the Waikato LUG expressing an interest in some inter-LUG
cooperation.
With Linuxconf
happening in Australia in January, there will be a bunch of linux noteable
people just over there. If the LUGs in New Zealand cooperate we may be
able to get a wo
For all those who seem to think that its hard to find and install
software on linux, considere this quote from Maximum PC (Oct 2004). In
an article on what is needed in the next windows (longporn or whatever
it is called) the auther opines:
"Maximum PC (October 2004 issue)
"Finding and installin
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Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 17:33:51 +1300
From: Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: InfoHelp Services, Canterbury Technology Ltd.
User-Agent:
> > If kinternet "just works"(tm), why bother with kppp? kinternet and
> > kppp provide the same functionality as far as dial-up connections go.
>
> Ehh, no. kppp is a standard KDE program and for those losing out on
> kinternet. kinternet, cinternet (the command line version, though I
> couldn't
> If kinternet "just works"(tm), why bother with kppp? kinternet and
> kppp provide the same functionality as far as dial-up connections go.
Ehh, no. kppp is a standard KDE program and for those losing out on
kinternet. kinternet, cinternet (the command line version, though I
couldn't quite get it
Windows, at least recent versions, has as reasonably serious
scripting facility of its own.
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:32:58 +1300, Christopher Sawtell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:04, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > I think I read somewhere that Windows was getting some kind of admin
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:04, Nick Rout wrote:
> > I think I read somewhere that Windows was getting some kind of admin
> > scripting ability - didn't really pay much attention though.
>
> \
> Isn't that the one that has to be switched off because OE/IE allow
> intruders to execute arbitrary scripts w
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:36:47 +1300
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't even know if my modem is supported or what type it is, except
> it's an onboard thing, Acer Travelmate, I'm running SuSE 9.1. Can
> someone get me started on setting up a dialup connection?
Ahhh there is another
yep, purely to explore, experiment, compare, fiddle, break/fix, clock up to
experience. all the above and more ;-)
sort of like: i know mozilla works fine as a browser/mail client, it ain't
broke. but i might like to try firefox and thunderbird.
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mail
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:52:41 +1300, Michael JasonSmith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 13:02, Rik Tindall wrote:
> > Screen projection, power extension/board, & dial-up Internet access is
> > organised. Do our speakers have any further hardware requests or
> > clarifications? It
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:58:58 +1300, Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> answering my own question by searching in Yast's "Install and remove
> software" for kppp:
> "The default tool on SuSE is Kinternet, which also handles ISDN and DSL".
> The window above clearly indicates that kppp is not
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:58:58 +1300
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> answering my own question by searching in Yast's "Install and remove
> software" for kppp:
> "The default tool on SuSE is Kinternet, which also handles ISDN and DSL".
> The window above clearly indicates that kppp is not
> I think I read somewhere that Windows was getting some kind of admin
> scripting ability - didn't really pay much attention though.
\
Isn't that the one that has to be switched off because OE/IE allow
intruders to execute arbitrary scripts with it? LOL
>
> Cheers,
> Carl.
--
Nick Rout <[EM
I have found recently that, as long as your hardware is supported, SuSE
installs and configures as easily (although much different) as Windows.
If you hunt around YaST for a while you will be surprised how many tools are
in there.
Rob.
-Original Message-
From: Roger Searle [mailto:[EMAIL
answering my own question by searching in Yast's "Install and remove
software" for kppp:
"The default tool on SuSE is Kinternet, which also handles ISDN and DSL".
The window above clearly indicates that kppp is not installed. Note to
self - install and try (later).
-Original Message-
Fro
But
they won't spend on linux cos it is supposed to be free!
..I actually feel quite good (could be read as smug) because I have a
Windowless box with free and legal software but I do acknowledge the efforts
of the developers and have made donations to a couple of Distros.
I agree with Nick th
Roger Searle wrote:
Here are some of the things that confused or frustrated me (and in some
cases still do) as an experienced windows "hacker" becoming a linux
"newbie":
There are 4 fuzzily defined categories the group caters for:
(Carl's on-the-spot approximate Linux-user taxonomy)
1. Linux newbie
On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 13:02, Rik Tindall wrote:
> Screen projection, power extension/board, & dial-up Internet access is
> organised. Do our speakers have any further hardware requests or
> clarifications? It is assumed they will be bringing a demonstration PC each.
I will have a laptop, but I am
Windows reports an Agere Systems AC97.
lspci: reports an Intel AC'97.
Yast - Network Devices - Modem - couldn't see the trees for the forest!
Autodetects the modem, configured easily, and connected 2 minutes later. It
then utilises Kinternet. I was looking for and trying to run kppp at the
week
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:00:20 +1300
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Btw SuSE has excellent user and admin manuals, included as pdf and
> html. If you want the printed version you'll have to buy the box. These
> explain all these basic things.
>
> Volker
I suspect this is part of the
On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 12:00, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> yast->System->date and Time, select Global/NZ
>
> (and don't take NZ-CHAT, that's the Chathams...)
One day, one Glorious Day,
I will go to the Chathams,
And set the timezone to NZ/Chat,
Smile, then email
The developers of the clock,
So they kn
> I don't even know if my modem is supported or what type it is, except it's
> an onboard thing, Acer Travelmate
yast->network devices->modem
If it's auto-detected you're away, if not, things are more complicated.
Show us the output of lspci, it should show which type of losemodem is
in your lapp
Here are some of the things that confused or frustrated me (and in some
cases still do) as an experienced windows "hacker" becoming a linux
"newbie":
1. The file system structure (very different to windows)
2. Connecting to a windows network, then sharing and accessing files with
other machines
3.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Is there anything that people think should be covered in such a newbie
>talk. I was going to do a theme like " what to do when you first sit
>down at your linux computer" - although most of my listeners may be past
>that stage and wanting a few intermediatish tips.
As a
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:34:44 +1300
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rik i assume there will be a projector?
oops forget that, it was in the bit i trimmed.
--
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:02:46 +1300
Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This week we have two talks: the X server-client GUI system by Michael
> Jasonsmith; and a newbie introduction to Linux by Nick Rout.
hell is that this week..
bugger
ok - call for topics:
Is there anything that p
Hi all,
This week we have two talks: the X server-client GUI system by Michael
Jasonsmith; and a newbie introduction to Linux by Nick Rout.
Venue: Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street (before
McDonalds, heading south).
Screen projection, power extension/board, & dial-up Inte
Has anyone recently installed K3B on Xandros desktop 2.5?
rgds!
Jaco
===
This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended
addressee. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be
the subject of legal or oth
Step 1:
Establish the exact modem type.
Boot into Windows & write down its description of the modem. There may
be a package to match it for SuSE.
Cheers, Rik
Roger Searle wrote:
Next. I'm pleased to be able to report that these days I sometimes boot
into windows and mostly linux, rather than som
Next. I'm pleased to be able to report that these days I sometimes boot
into windows and mostly linux, rather than sometimes to linux (referring to
personal rather than work use). While away for the weekend I decided that I
would not use windows for the entire trip, but did have to resort to doin
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 12:16:22 +1300
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
>
> [yes I know, I'm not *that* dementic!]
>
> > /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland [1]
>
> Not on SuSE, where it's Global/NZ. Dunno why.
true, duuno why either...
>
> > kernel's clo
my clock is fine now after a restart - my fix for 95% of things :-|
local timezone and Pacific-Auckland. can live with ignoring the "modified"
column in konqueror when it looks "wrong" - normally it's pretty obvious.
thanks for all the replies and help.
Roger
-Original Message-
From: R
> > Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
[yes I know, I'm not *that* dementic!]
> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Pacific/Auckland [1]
Not on SuSE, where it's Global/NZ. Dunno why.
> kernel's clock. the hardware clock can be stored as localtime or UTC,
> linux does not care, as long as it knows at startup what it is get
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:47:57 +1300
Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FWIW, this observation may be related to the problem under discussion..
>
> Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
>
> >In your case, suddenly having time in the middle of the night is
> >indicative for a time zone mismatch. Keep in mi
> Oh oh... time zone is screwed up on the notebook. So that's part of the
> answer.
Possibly not. The time (time elapsed since a certain mark) of anything
is independent of what your compi is set to display local time as.
Or in geek speek, the time_t value is constant, but depending on your
loca
yes a suse machine. I think I've half fixed it but the clock is suddenly
showing the wrong date and time (15:50 10/10/2004).
(manually typing the output seen on the suse machine now)
date:
Mon Oct 11 11:46:04 NZDT 2004
ls -l /etc/localtime:
-rw-r--r-- 3 root root 882 2004-04-06 12:09 /etc/local
> I think Volker's reply is pretty informative, if ultimately unhelpful
> (in that it doesn't really offer a solution to what seem to be pretty
> fundamental problems)
Unfortunately that's probably because when it comes to ftp, there are
no solutions, only explanations. ftp clients are diabolical
FWIW, this observation may be related to the problem under discussion..
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
In your case, suddenly having time in the middle of the night is
indicative for a time zone mismatch. Keep in mind that Billyware(TM)
expects to go on local time whereever your are, resulting in a big
scr
suse isn't it?
run the date command and get back to us, as well as
ls -l /etc/localtime
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:40:16 +1300
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh oh... time zone is screwed up on the notebook. So that's part of the
> answer. (now I'm struggling to fix that - I'll get
how would I configure samba?
-Original Message-
From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 October 2004 10:43 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: date modified info is wrong?
You may need to configure samba to use the correct
timezone.
Volker
--
Volker Kuhlmann
Oh oh... time zone is screwed up on the notebook. So that's part of the
answer. (now I'm struggling to fix that - I'll get there!)
It's good to know I'm not going nuts here, and that this is partly
unfixable.
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 Octobe
> Yes, kbear is an ftp client, I was trying to maximise my "linux time" to get
> log files from our isp and put on a windows machine, the only way I could do
> that was to copy them from kbear and paste into the windows share. (so yes
> to that question, by smb path I ought to have more clearly s
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:23:50 +1300
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, something I've noticed a few times in the past, and don't understand.
> Here's an example...
>
> I have just copied some log files into a folder with kbear via konqueror
to
> an smb path.
I don't understand this bit
On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 04:52:08PM +1300, Derek Smithies wrote:
> you will see they have a nice video of a moving penguin that shows on my
> mozilla browser quite well
because it's an animated gif.
greetings, martin.
--
- Pike - Caudium - sTeam - psycMUVE - LPC -
Pike Cam
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 05:49:51PM +1300, Matthew Gregan wrote:
> Thirty thousand small files in a single folder? At that point you need
> to start looking at the filesystem in use to make sure it scales to that
> level well enough.
yup. or use mutt and mbox. (no problems here with 10 mails i
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 05:10:50PM +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> Even relatively fast stuff like courier imap gets a bit choked on
> folders with 30k emails (yeah join gentoo-user and you'll see what I
> mean). its written in c.
>
> try putting some scripting high memory usage sql bound beast on that
It's been one of my pet peeves for a long time that many/most file
copying applications are too stupid to copy the date modified across.
This is especially true for GUI apps.
On Linux, copying the modified-date with a file copied onto an msdos or
vfat partition isn't even possible - you'll get a p
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 05:04:00PM +1300, Zane Gilmore wrote:
> >>Would such an MDA be best written in Perl, Python, Pike, C++ or something
> >>else?
> Any of those but add C for GTK.
> Pike is a bit exotic though (sorry Martin)
hey, i am doing my best to change that :-)
you don't need c for gtk.
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 01:45:17PM +1300, yuri wrote:
> After Jim and Volker's email presentations, I've been thinking.
> How hard would it be to write an MDA that stores mail in a database?
> Would such an MDA be best written in Perl, Python, Pike, C++ or something else?
in pike of course, and it
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:23:50 +1300
Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, something I've noticed a few times in the past, and don't understand.
> Here's an example...
>
> I have just copied some log files into a folder with kbear via konqueror to
> an smb path.
I don't understand this bi
Hi, something I've noticed a few times in the past, and don't understand.
Here's an example...
I have just copied some log files into a folder with kbear via konqueror to
an smb path. When I then sort the destination folder by date modified (in
konqueror) , I see that all the files that were ther
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 14:01:00 +1300
Matthew Gregan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 2004-10-10T13:48:06+1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> > is this a bug or something I am not grokking?
>
> The manual clearly states how the scale interacts with the operators.
so it does if you read all of it :)
after rea
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