Re: Computer names, was RE: Opinions re choice of CPU; marginally on topic

2004-11-11 Thread Derek Smithies
Roger, You do get the prize for the least imaginative names. Your naming system is superior to the "elementary" suggestion from Gareth, - no need to remember that periodic table. Derek. On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Roger Searle wrote: > But you don't get the prize for least imaginative perhaps. My

Re: newbie presentation slides

2004-11-11 Thread David Kirk
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:36:08 +1300, Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks, that would be great, it's just for a handy reference. Makes it > easier to be able to look up a particular command, because at the moment > my list of commands I know to use in my head is pretty small. Plus as i

Re: ATTN Gentoo users.

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 16:30, Col wrote: > I just updated my system, resulting in no modules autoloaded on bootup. > It took down my network i/f, alsa, vid capture, usb > > It appears have changed the way hotplug works and now need coldplug to > auto load modules on boot. > > #emerge coldplug

ATTN Gentoo users.

2004-11-11 Thread Col
I just updated my system, resulting in no modules autoloaded on bootup. It took down my network i/f, alsa, vid capture, usb It appears have changed the way hotplug works and now need coldplug to auto load modules on boot. #emerge coldplug #rc-update add coldplug boot Col.

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Michael
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 16:35, Matthew Gregan wrote: > At 2004-11-11T16:26:25+1300, Nick Rout wrote: > > the weird thing is that the ppp connection gets weird ip addresses > > (192.168...) > It's not weird, it's just from RFC1918 private address space. > Unfortunately, some ISPs hand addresses from t

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2004-11-12T15:23:53+1300, Matthew Gregan wrote: > At 2004-11-12T14:54:47+1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > Is that a new feature that pppd can modify /etc/resolv.conf? > It was introduced in pppd 2.3.9, which is circa August 1999. ...and it's actually writing to /etc/ppp/resolv.conf. It's left

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2004-11-12T14:54:47+1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > Is that a new feature that pppd can modify /etc/resolv.conf? It was introduced in pppd 2.3.9, which is circa August 1999. > On SuSE this is handled by the ifup scripts, which first back up the > existing resolv.conf and then write a new one ac

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2004-11-12T14:51:21+1300, Andy Leach wrote: > Modfy DNS when connected is not checked currently, when I select it it > activates the two DNS boxes below. I don't have server IPs to enter You need to make sure 'Automatically Retrieve DNS' is checked also, otherwise you must supply the IP addres

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> For a standard pppd(8), specifying 'usepeerdns' in your /etc/ppp/options > file is the usual way to get pppd(8) to store the ISP-supplied DNS > details into /etc/resolv.conf. There should be an easier way to ensure > this happens via SuSE's graphical configuration utilities, though. I'm > not f

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Andy Leach
How is the eth0 device configured? Manually, or using DHCP? DHCP will, by default, overwrite your /etc/resolv.conf with the values it receives from the DHCP server. This isn't happening in your case, but it's worth noting as a possible issue for users with similar configurations. DHCP, but t

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2004-11-12T13:23:32+1300, Andy Leach wrote: > As Chris and Matthew have asked me the same question pretty much, should > I only respond to one to pull the thread together as I have here, or > both? What is list etiquette for such situations? Replying to only one is fine; the reason that you o

Re: Computer names, was RE: Opinions re choice of CPU; marginally on topic

2004-11-11 Thread Roger Searle
But you don't get the prize for least imaginative perhaps. My work machines are one, two, three, four... At least it's a big name space! Brendan Greer wrote: Anyone with novel names they are willing to share??? Derek. Ok how about ... localhost, ipcop, win98, win95 etc hmm I know Im not to

Re: newbie presentation slides

2004-11-11 Thread Roger Searle
thanks, that would be great, it's just for a handy reference. Makes it easier to be able to look up a particular command, because at the moment my list of commands I know to use in my head is pretty small. Plus as i had to leave early I'm keen to have a look at what else you talked about. For

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 13:23, Andy Leach wrote: > As Chris and Matthew have asked me the same question pretty much, should > I only respond to one to pull the thread together as I have here, or > both? What is list etiquette for such situations? I think it is probably better to pull them together

Re: Computer names, was RE: Opinions re choice of CPU; marginally on topic

2004-11-11 Thread Brendan Greer
Anyone with novel names they are willing to share??? Derek. Ok how about ... localhost, ipcop, win98, win95 etc hmm I know Im not to creative

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Andy Leach
animated data-transfer i'm only a suse newby, but i noticed when changing to dial on demand (thanks nick) that the kinternet icon changes to this type of icon when dial on demand is selected. are you sure that the connection has dial on demand disabled? cheers...howard Volker said 'Keep that

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Andy Leach
As Chris and Matthew have asked me the same question pretty much, should I only respond to one to pull the thread together as I have here, or both? What is list etiquette for such situations? Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2004-11-12T11:54:53+1300, Andy Leach wrote: OKAY!!! it dialed, I got a conne

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Andy Leach
Morning, hope you all had a good night - Volker Kuhlmann wrote: previously, attempting to make the connection to a site was what triggered the dailup request Keep that "demand dial" box checked. it is [ftp] no luck with these, time outs and name resolution failures Hm, maybe the li

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:11, Andy Leach wrote: > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > >On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:30, Andy Leach wrote: > >>Morning, hope you all had a good night - > > > >Yes, thank you for your concern. > > > >For some reason your connection to the isp has not given you a routeable > > ip numbe

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2004-11-12T11:54:53+1300, Andy Leach wrote: > OKAY!!! it dialed, I got a connection, I heard the modem doing its > thing. All 3 packets went and came back safely without loss in 278ms, > 279ms and 278ms Good news. > the kinternet connection has now got two plugs, however, ping > www.google.

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Andy Leach
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:30, Andy Leach wrote: Morning, hope you all had a good night - Yes, thank you for your concern. For some reason your connection to the isp has not given you a routeable ip number. Is this machine connected to a LAN at the same time as it t

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Andy Leach
Matthew Gregan wrote: At 2004-11-12T10:30:41+1300, Andy Leach wrote: and ping -c3 google.com ping: unknown host google.com These failures all make sense based on the error you reported earlier relating to /etc/resolv.conf. When you're connected, can you try pinging www.google.com by

Re: Computer names, was RE: Opinions re choice of CPU; marginally on topic

2004-11-11 Thread Gareth Williams
Sadly I have to admit... luke, leia, kenobi, vader, chewie. However, by far the coolest naming system I've heard of (and one I think mentioned briefly in the RFC Michael posted) is names of elements. This has the two advantages, besides having cool sounding names - the name space is fairly big,

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread howard blomfield
Andy Leach wrote: Morning, hope you all had a good night - Volker Kuhlmann wrote: previously, attempting to make the connection to a site was what triggered the dailup request Keep that "demand dial" box checked. it is [ftp] no luck with these, time outs and name resolution failures

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:30, Andy Leach wrote: > Morning, hope you all had a good night - Yes, thank you for your concern. For some reason your connection to the isp has not given you a routeable ip number. Is this machine connected to a LAN at the same time as it tries to connect to the wider In

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2004-11-12T10:30:41+1300, Andy Leach wrote: > >and ping -c3 google.com > ping: unknown host google.com These failures all make sense based on the error you reported earlier relating to /etc/resolv.conf. When you're connected, can you try pinging www.google.com by one of its IP addresses, e.g.:

Re: [OT] Re: OpenWatcom on Uni of Cant ftp servers? Any chance?

2004-11-11 Thread Christopher Sawtell
You might like to consider the Intel Fortran Compiler. There is a non-commercial release of it. See:- http://www.intel.com/software/products/noncom/ On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:05, Wesley Parish wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:44, Richard Graham wrote: > > I am a physics student at UoC. > > > > I don'

Re: newbie presentation slides

2004-11-11 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 2004-11-11 at 14:59, Roger Searle wrote: > Hi Nick, > > Are the slides from your recent newbie presentation available somewhere? > > (sorry if I missed this if already posted). > > Cheers, > Roger no sorry, I haven't got round to doing that yet, thanks for reminding me. i will try and p

XF86 problem

2004-11-11 Thread Rowan
Just a quick work of thanks to Jason for helping me to get my XF86config going again. The MCC worked in the end. Also thanks to Paul for trying to help. Rowan

Re: [OT] Re: OpenWatcom on Uni of Cant ftp servers? Any chance?

2004-11-11 Thread Wesley Parish
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:44, Richard Graham wrote: > I am a physics student at UoC. > > I don't know anything about Fortran or OpenWatcom, but I can say that > yes, their is still a lot of Fortran code being developed as well as > maintained as we speak. Well, I was thinking it'd be a very good way

Re: [OT] Re: OpenWatcom on Uni of Cant ftp servers? Any chance?

2004-11-11 Thread Richard Graham
I am a physics student at UoC. I don't know anything about Fortran or OpenWatcom, but I can say that yes, their is still a lot of Fortran code being developed as well as maintained as we speak. A friend of mine (an atmospheric physicist) is currently in the process of learning Fortran, as it is o

Re: Computer names, was RE: Opinions re choice of CPU; marginally on topic

2004-11-11 Thread Wesley Parish
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:47, Wesley Parish wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:58, Derek Smithies wrote: > > Ok, > > we can have a herd... > > > > === > > My work computer is called kauri. > > a 3 1/2 year old machine, that has an athlon1333/512mb ram > > which was big at the time... > > > > > > then

Re: SUSE, YaST and dial-up failure

2004-11-11 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> previously, attempting to make the connection to a site was what > triggered the dailup request Keep that "demand dial" box checked. [ftp] > no luck with these, time outs and name resolution failures Hm, maybe the link is up but doesn't shove data across. >setting /usr/bin/pppd to root:d