Re: Modern disconnect compressed data

2006-02-16 Thread Col
This phenomenon is repeated with different modems on different machines. It's better to compare them against other ISP's using the same hardware and ask for an explanation. I once managed to get my ISP to admit they where blocking incoming traffic to port 80. ( borrowed a dailin account )

Re: hard drive just died

2006-02-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Does anybody know how to recover the data? Is there any Open Source tool for > recovering it to a temporary location? Depends on the failure. Total head crash makes everything unrecoverable (no head left to read anything with, nor much non-sandpapered surface to read from). Dito electronics fri

Re: >>> CLUG Meeting - Tuesday 14th <<

2006-02-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:54:31 +1300 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW I have purchased an 8 port switch for the CLUG locker. It was > > $49.00. > > What was the reason you paid 49 when they've been selling for 35 for the > last 2 years, with auto-sensing (straight/crossover) ports

Re: ATI Radeon M10

2006-02-16 Thread Steve Holdoway
The ATI driver supports XFree 4.1 up, and... The ATI Proprietary Linux driver is designed to support the following ATI Mobility™ products: * Mobility™ Radeon® X700 * Mobility™ Radeon® X600 * Mobility™ Radeon® 9800 * Mobility™ Radeon® 9600 * Mobility™ Radeon® 9550 * Mobilit

Re: ATI Radeon M10

2006-02-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Might have to talk nicely to Volker again for latest SuSE (hint...) Yep there's 10.0 here... 10.1 isn't out yet, but near the end of the pipeline (4-6 weeks, rough guess). The safest way to test whether your hardware works is to boot the suse live cd. Any other live distro will do too, but expe

Re: >>> CLUG Meeting - Tuesday 14th <<

2006-02-16 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> BTW I have purchased an 8 port switch for the CLUG locker. It was > $49.00. What was the reason you paid 49 when they've been selling for 35 for the last 2 years, with auto-sensing (straight/crossover) ports? Time? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain

Re: How does python find modules to import?

2006-02-16 Thread Andrew Errington
'' is an empty string. I don't know if it signifies anything, and is most likely superfluous. The path is initialised from the environment variable PYTHONPATH - take a look in there to see if there is an empty entry (or something that could be interpreted as such). If the '' is significant th

Re: How does python find modules to import?

2006-02-16 Thread Nick Rout
Thanks. The first entry in path is '' - what does this signify? >>> print sys.path ['', '/usr/lib/portage/pym', '/usr/lib/python23.zip', '/usr/lib/python2.3', '/usr/lib/python2.3/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages'] O

Re: How does python find modules to import?

2006-02-16 Thread Andrew Errington
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:37, you wrote: > debugging a python program which depends on BitTornado (a python > bittorrent client). Unfortunately for illogical reasons that are not > mine I have two different versions of BitTornado installed, resulting in > the program I am debugging having one of those

How does python find modules to import?

2006-02-16 Thread Nick Rout
debugging a python program which depends on BitTornado (a python bittorrent client). Unfortunately for illogical reasons that are not mine I have two different versions of BitTornado installed, resulting in the program I am debugging having one of those installations in a subdirectory called BitTor

Re: Modern disconnect compressed data

2006-02-16 Thread Ross Drummond
Further research suggests that the errant network access server is Telstra Clear equipment. There have also been reports that Macs have been having the same problem. Cheers Ross Drummmond On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:22, Ross Drummond wrote: > Telecom have installed a new network access server, a Luc

RE: Modern disconnect compressed data

2006-02-16 Thread Craig FALCONER
Heh. The first "The Castle" I thought of was that aussie movie about the house by an airport :) -Original Message- From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 11:23 a.m. To: CLUG mailing list Subject: Modern disconnect compressed data Telecom have inst

Re: hard drive just died

2006-02-16 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 16/02/06, Wesley Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody know how to recover the data? Reinstall from your back up. You did backup your precious data, right? :-) Cheers, Carl.

So your disk drive died, who cares? Dance dance dance!

2006-02-16 Thread John Carter
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Wesley Parish wrote: Does anybody know how to recover the data? Is there any Open Source tool for recovering it to a temporary location? Maybe try disable some stuff via hdparm like su hdparm -D -A0 # Copy data off dd if=/dev/hdb of=stonking_big_file Then loopback mou

Re: OTish: ISPs

2006-02-16 Thread John Carter
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, John Rye wrote: BCL already have a broadband offering. http://www.bclnz.co.nz/index.php/pi_pageid/23 http://www.iconz.co.nz/hom_extend.php The prices are pure 'orrible. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait Electronics

Re: Postdocs, Ph.D. student wanted

2006-02-16 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 16/02/06, Zane Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wasn't Andrew Tanenbaum one of Linus's operating system theory professors? > > I seem to remember him making comments about not giving Linus > "full marks" for Linux because he used a monolithic kernel structure. > > It was around the time that

Re: hard drive just died

2006-02-16 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:35:08 +1300 Maurice Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > the freeze is an urban myth and causes more problems than it solves due to > condensation and other bits moving out of tolerance. Recovery depends on > what type the failure is i.e. Mechanical - Plater motor, head

Re: OTish: ISPs

2006-02-16 Thread John Rye
Ross Drummond wrote: > A digression regarding Telecom Govt and betrayal. > > Do you recall studying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact[1] in history. > > This treaty was between the two most mean unprincipled sharks in history. > Hitler and Stalin in which they agreed not to attack one another. We all

hard drive just died

2006-02-16 Thread Wesley Parish
Does anybody know how to recover the data? Is there any Open Source tool for recovering it to a temporary location? (The only things I am even moderately pleased about is that I burnt a cdrom of one of my projects, so I've got that at the very least. And it's still within warranty.) Thanks very

Re: FLOSS Mirror, MIniPOP and Wilber

2006-02-16 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:14:13 +1300 Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 9:02 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > > > Steve & I would like ot extend coverage to this side of the hill > > (lyttelton harbour side). > > Is that the same as "over the hill"? > > (Rob ducks for cover) Wa

Re: hard drive just died

2006-02-16 Thread Wayne Rooney
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:03, Steve Holdoway wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:35:08 +1300 > > Maurice Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > the freeze is an urban myth and causes more problems than it solves due > > to condensation and other bits moving out of tolerance. Recovery depends > > on

RE: Postdocs, Ph.D. student wanted

2006-02-16 Thread Peter Burke
Linus' "relationship" with Dr Tanenbaum is detailed in Linus' autobiography "Just For Fun". VERY interesting reading indeed. --Peter -Original Message- From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2006 11:02 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: R

Re: Postdocs, Ph.D. student wanted

2006-02-16 Thread Philip Charles
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:01, Jim Cheetham wrote: > However, Linux is "just" a reimplementation of the monolithic kernel > style present at the time Linus was learning. Andy thinks it's a shame > that all the energy that's going into Linux isn't going into anything > truly innovative, in kernel terms

Re: Last nights meeting - thanks, and any lingering problems?

2006-02-16 Thread Anthony Hart
--- Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "eth1"? > Do you have 2 network cards in this machine? It > should be "eth0" if there is > just one card. > > -- > :D > Yes I have 2 cards - "eth0" is connected to a LAN, and "eth1" the cable modem. Tony Send instant messages to your online fri

Re: Postdocs, Ph.D. student wanted

2006-02-16 Thread Jim Cheetham
Doesn't anyone know their history round here? :-) Dr Tanenbaum teaches Operating Systems amongst his other interesting computing subjects :-) In order to teach Unix, he needed the sources; these were not available for his students to experiment with. So, he invented Minix - a Unix-like operating

RE: OTish: ISPs

2006-02-16 Thread clug
The setup cost for the BCL extend service is typically ~$1000 for CPE and ~$400 for installation. The $600 figure you quoted will be including project probe 50% subsidy. I know a few people with it and it is a good service, just far too expensive unless it is a last resort. hads. P.S Please e

Re: Postdocs, Ph.D. student wanted

2006-02-16 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Thursday 16 February 2006 21:09, Zane Gilmore wrote: > Wasn't Andrew Tanenbaum one of Linus's operating system theory > professors? I thought that the 'open and frank exchanges' took place in a Usenet newsgroup between a prof. and a student, as opposed to a prof and _his_ student. > I seem to

RE: hard drive just died

2006-02-16 Thread Wesley Parish
Well, the syptoms were these: Attempting to install Mandriva 2005 last night brought on claims by the installer program that it could not copy a good many of the files. It beeped also, after a seeking noise from the motor. I looked at the ATA cable and moved it in a little more; after that I mana

Re: OTish: ISPs

2006-02-16 Thread John Rye
Nick Rout wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:23:05 +1300 > John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> BCL already have a broadband offering. >> >> http://www.bclnz.co.nz/index.php/pi_pageid/23 >> >> Cheers >> >> John > > the only one of their retailers who i could find prices for was iconz: > > Plan

RE: OTish: ISPs

2006-02-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi, baycity.co.nz also sell it to farmers and any one else that can afford the setup cost ($600 dollars+) they have mainly move to satellite Maurice > -Original Message- > From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2006 9:25 p.m. > To: linux-users@it.canterbur

RE: hard drive just died

2006-02-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi, the freeze is an urban myth and causes more problems than it solves due to condensation and other bits moving out of tolerance. Recovery depends on what type the failure is i.e. Mechanical - Plater motor, head servo, bearings Electronics - cct board failure or worse head crash. if the disk is r

Re: OTish: ISPs

2006-02-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:24:54 +1300 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:23:05 +1300 > John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > BCL already have a broadband offering. > > > > http://www.bclnz.co.nz/index.php/pi_pageid/23 > > > > Cheers > > > > John > > the only one of

Re: OTish: ISPs

2006-02-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:23:05 +1300 John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BCL already have a broadband offering. > > http://www.bclnz.co.nz/index.php/pi_pageid/23 > > Cheers > > John the only one of their retailers who i could find prices for was iconz: PlanData Allowance Monthly

Re: FLOSS Mirror, MIniPOP and Wilber

2006-02-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:14:13 +1300 Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 9:02 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > > > Steve & I would like ot extend coverage to this side of the hill > > (lyttelton harbour side). > > Is that the same as "over the hill"? > > (Rob ducks for cover) we

Re: FLOSS Mirror, MIniPOP and Wilber

2006-02-16 Thread Robert Fisher
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 9:02 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > Steve & I would like ot extend coverage to this side of the hill > (lyttelton harbour side). Is that the same as "over the hill"? (Rob ducks for cover)

Re: Last nights meeting - thanks, and any lingering problems?

2006-02-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:30:32 +1300 Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "eth1"? > Do you have 2 network cards in this machine? It should be "eth0" if there is > just one card. there were two ethernet devices.

Re: Postdocs, Ph.D. student wanted

2006-02-16 Thread Zane Gilmore
Wasn't Andrew Tanenbaum one of Linus's operating system theory professors? I seem to remember him making comments about not giving Linus "full marks" for Linux because he used a monolithic kernel structure. It was around the time that that guy was tring to claim that Linus could not possibly ha

Re: FLOSS Mirror, MIniPOP and Wilber

2006-02-16 Thread Nick Rout
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:46:10 +1300 dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not have a chat with the chaps at the canty wireless site? > > we had a bit of a blurb in archives about free wireless connections (Nick > about the time you looked at woosh i beleive). > > they have 3 repeaters on sugerlo