Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread David Mann
On May 30, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Hadley Rich wrote: And on cable you might actually get those speeds :) My 3.5/512 ADSL is actually 2.5/384 On a good day I'm getting about 900kbps download on an "up to 2Mbit" connection. The phone wiring might be a bit soggy in this area :) - Dave

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Don Gould
Where is it? Can I go plug a usb dongle antenna in to it and bounce it back to my place? Ben Devine wrote: Just for comparision Here is a heavily utilised 5/5 fibre connection 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9092ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 23.557/29.025/38.349/4.077 m

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Hadley Rich
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 15:39, Craig FALCONER wrote: > And having symmetrical up/down link speeds is just nice. > Fwoah!  Telecom announce 512 kbit upload!!! I'm on 2/2 Mbit at home and > 10/2 at work And on cable you might actually get those speeds :) My 3.5/512 ADSL is actually 2.5/384 hads --

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Ben Devine
On 5/30/06, Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is from an iHug 3.5/512 ADSL connection:>> --- www.italk.co.nz ping statistics ---> 53 packets transmitted, 53 received, 0% packet loss, time 83066ms> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 74.667/85.646/99.057/6.146 ms>85 +/- 8 ms on 3.5/128 iHug ADSL

RE: Broadband Modems

2006-05-29 Thread Craig FALCONER
Not from me you won't. But that's the next thing I have to look at :\ Seems that linksys are anal about 192.168.x.y Ips being used as nothing larger than a /24 -Original Message- From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:59 p.m. To: linux-users@it.ca

RE: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Craig FALCONER
They're probably just as good as each other for most stuff. However cable has fewer short outages - when cable is out tends to be for hours at a time, but maybe once a year or two. With DSL how many times have you found a problem is just gone by the time you look for it ? Remember Micro-outages

Re: 'Dynamic' firewall script getting better...

2006-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 30 May 2006 09:45:54 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j ACCEPT > > iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 -j DROP > > No point dropping anything after you've already accepted everything. > > No suggestions, but the problem with

Re: Broadband Modems

2006-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 30 May 2006 09:04:56 +1200 Craig FALCONER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Linksys WRT54GL > > ~$154 from www.ascent.co.nz inc freight/GST > > Make sure it's the GL version - the G version5 is $5 cheaper but has less > ram and a different OS. And its got decent aerials. > > (No wait! Buy

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 30 May 2006 11:40:02 +1200 Hadley Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 30 May 2006 11:35, Craig FALCONER wrote: > > Give us some hosts to test and compare - here's www.italk.co.nz > > > >                                                Packets               Pings > >  Host          

Re: Broadband Modems

2006-05-29 Thread Roger Searle
i have the same at home (though not sure which sub-type it is) and have found it to be excellent. roger Craig FALCONER wrote: > Linksys WRT54GL > > ~$154 from www.ascent.co.nz inc freight/GST > > Make sure it's the GL version - the G version5 is $5 cheaper but has less > ram and a different OS.

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> I was under the impression latency was worse on cable? No, other way round. More like the only low-latency internet service you'll get in this country is Telsta cable. Unless they've changed that, but ssh is pretty snappy. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Hadley Rich
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 11:35, Craig FALCONER wrote: > Give us some hosts to test and compare - here's www.italk.co.nz > >                                                Packets               Pings >  Host                                         Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg >  Best Wrst StDev > 10. webs

RE: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Craig FALCONER
Give us some hosts to test and compare - here's www.italk.co.nz Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 10. websrv2.tranzpeer.net 0.0%10 49.3 43.0

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Ben Bodley
> > I don't have cable so I can't definitively test but I'm pretty sure you > should > have less latency to local peering points than ADSL (although Telstra doesn't > usually peer so that might not mean much). > > VoIP is great, on the proviso that you have a decent connection and a decent >

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Ben Bodley
Steve Holdoway wrote: >>2. Go mobile >> >>Drop the landline, move phone plans to talkzonezero [49.95], get a >>shitter B/T mobile and jury rig VOIP via. 3rd mobile using asterisk. >>Possible savings: $45 + $6 + $10 cheaper internet + $20 mobile plans, >>Problems: VOIP delay? Still locals dialing i

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Hadley Rich
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 10:54, Ben Bodley wrote: > I would go with a 10Gb cap 2M up, 2M down?  This enough? Plenty for the amount of calls you would do at home, even with a home office. > I was under the impression latency was worse on cable?  That is a worry > for me as all tolls are currently VO

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Ben Bodley
>> >>However the cap is a real problem here. Voip is useless if running torrents >>with the massive 128k upstream bandwidth. Capped it'll just be useless. I would go with a 10Gb cap 2M up, 2M down? This enough? > > > Yep, but cable is 2Mb up and you can get 512k upstream ADSL now (although >

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Hadley Rich
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 10:23, Steve Holdoway wrote: > Ben Bodley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Things I wouldn't mind trying: > > > > 1. Dropping landline altogether > > > > Telstra now offering _just_ broadband at $59.95 p/m [10gb cap]. Now > > local calling gets expensive. Slingshot VOIP curre

Re: Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 30 May 2006 10:15:01 +1200 Ben Bodley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I'm just re-evaluating communications at my house, which I also work > from daily, and was interested in thoughts regarding any cost savings > and improvements. > > Requirements: > > Phone in/out > Fax in/ou

Communications costly?

2006-05-29 Thread Ben Bodley
Hi Guys, I'm just re-evaluating communications at my house, which I also work from daily, and was interested in thoughts regarding any cost savings and improvements. Requirements: Phone in/out Fax in/out Interweb [10Gb min] 2 x mobile phone Current setup [costs monthly]: Phoneline (Telecom)

Re: 'Dynamic' firewall script getting better...

2006-05-29 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j ACCEPT > iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 -j DROP No point dropping anything after you've already accepted everything. No suggestions, but the problem with all these iptables scripts is that they don't work together, so I never see that much poin

'Dynamic' firewall script getting better...

2006-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
Can anyone suggest any extensions to this. It's a part of a sort of moving firewall script, run hourly that firewalls those who are annoying me the most. ( I regenerate that part of the list from the mailer logs ) 1. Reset and static rules. iptables -F INPUT iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -A

RE: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Craig FALCONER
Agree. You will need a package called wpa_supplicant (it may be called wpasupplicant in some distros) -Original Message- From: Col [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2006 7:23 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Wireless laptop Robert Fisher wrote: > On

RE: Broadband Modems

2006-05-29 Thread Craig FALCONER
Linksys WRT54GL ~$154 from www.ascent.co.nz inc freight/GST Make sure it's the GL version - the G version5 is $5 cheaper but has less ram and a different OS. And its got decent aerials. (No wait! Buy my old 3COM's that I'm replacing with linksys! Book value of $350 still!) -Original Me

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Col
Robert Fisher wrote: On Tuesday 30 May 2006 10:28 am, Robert Fisher wrote: I cannot seem to connect my laptop to my new wireless access point. To make sure it works and to try to keep it simple to get started I tried it with Windows (dual boot laptop) and turned WEP off. I am using Mepis and

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 10:28 am, Robert Fisher wrote: > I cannot seem to connect my laptop to my new wireless access point. > > To make sure it works and to try to keep it simple to get started I tried > it with Windows (dual boot laptop) and turned WEP off. > > I am using Mepis and am a bit stuck/

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Rik Tindall
You're all welcome to join the organised mayhem :) Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2006 21:34:56 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 29 May 2006 21:25, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2006 20:22:06 +1200 Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I have no success

Re: Broadband Modems

2006-05-29 Thread Steve Holdoway
...just make sure it's a standalone one, not usb. Steve On Mon, 29 May 2006 21:46:33 +1200 Chris Downie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Am I right in presuming BB modems/routers are OS neutral like my external > modem? Are there any brands I should steer clear off or are they all > pre

Broadband Modems

2006-05-29 Thread Chris Downie
Hi, Am I right in presuming BB modems/routers are OS neutral like my external modem? Are there any brands I should steer clear off or are they all pretty much the same? I intend going the wireless route. Cheers, Chris

XaraLX

2006-05-29 Thread Andy Leach
I need to do some graphics work and wondered if anyone had tried building Xara ( http://www.xaraxtreme.org/ ) and how you found using it, Cheers, Andy

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 29 May 2006 21:34:56 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 29 May 2006 21:25, Nick Rout wrote: > > On Mon, 29 May 2006 20:22:06 +1200 > > > > Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I have no success it might be a good excuse to come and have a > > > co

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 29 May 2006 21:25, Nick Rout wrote: > On Mon, 29 May 2006 20:22:06 +1200 > > Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I have no success it might be a good excuse to come and have a > > coffee in Lyttelton. > > You're welcome any time. You could come to Rik's wireless config night >

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 29 May 2006 20:22:06 +1200 Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I have no success it might be a good excuse to come and have a coffee in > Lyttelton. You're welcome any time. You could come to Rik's wireless config night on Thursday at Sydenham, but nothing at all worked there l

Re: Picasa for Linux

2006-05-29 Thread Dave G
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: It's not native linux though. First thing I noticed too, though the screen shots don't look too bad, as does the features list, but not burning CDs can be a k.o. Do have a careful look at rpm -q --scripts -p picasa... before installing it. Given the relative lack of

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 29 May 2006 20:22, Robert Fisher wrote: > On Tuesday 30 May 2006 10:28 am, Robert Fisher wrote: > > I cannot seem to connect my laptop to my new wireless access point. > > > > To make sure it works and to try to keep it simple to get started I > > tried it with Windows (dual boot laptop)

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 10:28 am, Robert Fisher wrote: > I cannot seem to connect my laptop to my new wireless access point. > > To make sure it works and to try to keep it simple to get started I tried > it with Windows (dual boot laptop) and turned WEP off. > > I am using Mepis and am a bit stuck/

Re: 'Ere - where's the time gone???

2006-05-29 Thread Zane Gilmore
Have you seen this? http://msl.irl.cri.nz/services/time/ntpServer.html And their publically accessible NTP server msltime.irl.cri.nz Measurement Standards Laboratory is a "Crown Research Institute" IMO an excellent use of taxpayer funds Steve Holdoway wrote: It resolves for me now, too. Very

Re: Wireless laptop

2006-05-29 Thread Nick Rout
try the iwlist commands iwlist scan iwlist ap iwlist channel etc On Mon, 29 May 2006 18:28:30 -0400 Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I cannot seem to connect my laptop to my new wireless access point. > > To make sure it works and to try to keep it simple to get started I tried it >