Re: No Distro today thank you...

2006-07-31 Thread Glynn Foster
Nick Rout wrote: > One problem with choosing one distro and settling on it is that they all > have problems from time to time. The current ubuntu is a case in point. > At least two of the wireless drivers which they have merged into the > kernel do not seem to work properly all of the time [1][2]

Re: No Distro today thank you...

2006-07-31 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Don Gould wrote: > http://www.gnome.org/~gman/img/july/freegeek.jpg > > Could we have 30 of those to build our node network? Yeah, that was an amazing place - stacked high with heaps of computers and laptops everywhere. Everyone who drops off a computer gives a $10 donation, and then the co

Re: Fake Root... dnsmasq 2.32

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:27:22 +1200 Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is that I don't follow the scope of what fakeroot is... I > read some help on it, but didn't understand why it applies here... man fakeroot look Don, if you can't look at the documentation and then ask what y

Re: Fake Root... dnsmasq 2.32

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
Sorry, Simon Kelly Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:27:22 +1200 Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't understand why SK is saying to use it. I don't understand what SK is? -- Don Gould www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz - www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz - www.bowenvale.co.nz - www.hearing

Re: Fake Root... dnsmasq 2.32

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
Nick Rout wrote: Is there any particular need to have that version? Yes. It includes the --dhcp-script option -- Don Gould www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz - www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz - www.bowenvale.co.nz - www.hearingbooks.co.nz - SkypeMe: ThinkDesignPrint

Re: Fake Root... dnsmasq 2.32

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:27:22 +1200 Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't understand why SK is saying to use it. I don't understand what SK is?

Re: Fake Root... dnsmasq 2.32

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:06:57 +1200 Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A tip for getting the newest version: if you don't want to upgrade your > > system to the "testing" distribution, then download the 2.32 source with > > > > apt-get source dnsmasq > > > > and build a binary package w

Re: Fake Root... dnsmasq 2.32

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
Eliot Blennerhassett wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:06, Don Gould wrote: But then I got another error when I ran # fakeroot debian/rules DBUS= binary Just to give some of the other good people on this list a rest. WHAT WAS THE ERROR MESSAGE? Opps... sorry, I got so many different errors

Re: Fake Root... dnsmasq 2.32

2006-07-31 Thread Eliot Blennerhassett
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:06, Don Gould wrote: > But then I got another error when I ran > > # fakeroot debian/rules DBUS= binary Just to give some of the other good people on this list a rest. WHAT WAS THE ERROR MESSAGE? This sage advice may be pertinent http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.

Re: nvidia & TVOUT

2006-07-31 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:22:10 +1200 "Adrian.Mageanu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did try it and found that I couldn't use both the TV and the monitor > in the same time, like using the TV as a projector. The colours on TV > were not too sharp either. > > Here is what the relevant section of my

USB wireless dongle

2006-07-31 Thread Robert Fisher
Nick said:- However both of those drivers can be fixed or worked around with ease from what google tells me. [3] Certainly not worth a distro change. [1] there have been other well publicised problems with the release too [2] specifically bcm43xx and zd1211 [3] the specific advice for bcm43xx is

Fake Root... dnsmasq 2.32

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
A tip for getting the newest version: if you don't want to upgrade your system to the "testing" distribution, then download the 2.32 source with apt-get source dnsmasq and build a binary package with fakeroot debian/rules DBUS= binary The DBUS stuff inhibits use of a library which is too ol

Re: nvidia & TVOUT

2006-07-31 Thread Adrian.Mageanu
I did try it and found that I couldn't use both the TV and the monitor in the same time, like using the TV as a projector. The colours on TV were not too sharp either. Here is what the relevant section of my xorg: Section "Device" # Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" Optio

Re: Isaac Writes "(the hard stuff)" - ONCS

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
Nick Rout wrote: and echo $0 is interesting too. Gives you the name of the script you're running. On with the next problem now... getting DNSMasq to actually run on debian 3.1 I've got to machines connected... I've identified that Neil has firewalled port 67 I've identified that dnsmasq

Re: Isaac Writes "(the hard stuff)" - ONCS

2006-07-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 14:26, Rex Johnston wrote: > Don Gould wrote: > > In a script, how do I see the parameters that are being passed in? > > in a shell, type > man bash > > There, that should keep you quiet for a while Like to bet on it? These URLs might add to the effect:- http://perso

Re: No Distro today thank you...

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Rout
Sorry to top post. This was an excellent post Glynn. I spent ages installing redhat, mandrake, debian, sorcerer, slackware, you name it. I settled on gentoo eventually. One problem with choosing one distro and settling on it is that they all have problems from time to time. The current ubuntu is

Re: Isaac Writes "(the hard stuff)" - ONCS

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:41:39 +1200 Don Gould wrote: > Thanks Rex, > > $* for all arguments passed in. > $x where x is the number of the argument you want. > > Example: > > If we write a script called test.sh > > echo $* $1 $3 $5 > and echo $0 is interesting too.

Re: Isaac Writes "(the hard stuff)" - ONCS

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
Thanks Rex, $* for all arguments passed in. $x where x is the number of the argument you want. Example: If we write a script called test.sh echo $* $1 $3 $5 Then run it... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ./test.sh hello don how are you hello don how are you hello how you [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ Cheer

Re: Isaac Writes "(the hard stuff)" - ONCS

2006-07-31 Thread Rex Johnston
Don Gould wrote: In a script, how do I see the parameters that are being passed in? in a shell, type man bash There, that should keep you quiet for a while Rex

Isaac Writes "(the hard stuff)" - ONCS

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
See: http://www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,23/ I have assigned my self a hard task - in terms of my skill level. I've been doing research in to the commonants that I can build it out of that already exist. I've posted messages to LARTC and DNSMasq mailing lists

Re: No Distro today thank you...

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
http://www.gnome.org/~gman/img/july/freegeek.jpg Could we have 30 of those to build our node network? Cheers Don Glynn Foster wrote: Don Gould wrote: Quick thought... thanks to every one who's suggested a distro change is the best option... In this instance I've decided it's not. Right!

Re: No Distro today thank you...

2006-07-31 Thread Glynn Foster
Don Gould wrote: > Quick thought... thanks to every one who's suggested a distro change is > the best option... > > In this instance I've decided it's not. Right! Absolutely 100% right! I'd encourage *everyone* to just pick one distribution and spend a decent amount of time learning about it.

[SPAM-Bowenvale] Re: Schoolzone RE: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
Which question Craig? The school zone question? Yes, a question, why did you post this question to list? Is it on topic for this list? I find this hard to understand, I'm told by some that it's OT, it's not Linux related at all. Frankly I read your post and thought you were just bashing a

RE: Re: Schoolzone RE: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Craig FALCONER
So - do you actually have anything to contribute towards answering the question? -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:23 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: OT: Re: Schoolzone RE: CLUG is dying Craig FALCONER wrote: >

Reprogramming USB Pen Drives Re: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread John Carter
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Isaac Devine wrote: What has happened to clug? Where is all the nitty-gritty tech debate? (the hard stuff) Blame Ubuntu. I gave a course on Linux here at work the other day. I asked for hard practical real life problems to solve. Some asked, "How do you Dual Boot betwee

OT: Re: Schoolzone RE: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
ROFL > WTF is with all the OT posts - most of which aren't even labelled OT. > Is clug dying? > Are we poisoned? > Predominantly, the OT messages are/were mainly from two perpetrators. > Judging by their relative silence today, they seem to have 'got the > message'. If they haven't they'll get

Re: OT: Wifi under MS Windows! - Comment

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
Steve Holdoway wrote: So, for all those who spend a lot of effort bashing linux installs, let it be known that Microsoft is not immune! I don't know who you're talking about... For the whole, personally I think most of the installers are fantastic. Wireless is a known problem because the t

Re: Javascript strikes again.

2006-07-31 Thread Don Gould
http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2003-04/trustrev.html http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2001-12/2001-12-trust.html Steve Holdoway wrote: For all of you feeling safe behind your firewall, looks like we're all in for a hard time. I think the picture isn't as black as painted, but this is only the be

Schoolzone RE: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Craig FALCONER
Leif - do you have the option of not having your email munted by telecom and schoolzone ? Not trying to sound critical or anything, but schoolzone seems to be utter crap. Cable is far superior, cheaper, faster, etc. -Original Message- From: Leif Keane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: T

Re: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Leif Keane
linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz on Tuesday, 1 August 2006 at 12:22 AM + wrote: > >2) Now that Joe is using Linux, we are getting questions from him. That's me (though I'm trying to lose the six-pack), and I'm very grateful! Thanks everyone. Leif -- --

Re: Javascript strikes again.

2006-07-31 Thread Rex Johnston
Steve Holdoway wrote: For all of you feeling safe behind your firewall, looks like we're all in for a hard time. I think the picture isn't as black as painted, but this is only the beginning. And you thought ActiveX was bad... Steve http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6099891.html?tag=nl.e589

Javascript strikes again.

2006-07-31 Thread Steve Holdoway
For all of you feeling safe behind your firewall, looks like we're all in for a hard time. I think the picture isn't as black as painted, but this is only the beginning. And you thought ActiveX was bad... Steve http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6099891.html?tag=nl.e589

Re: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Andrew Errington
> Is clug dying? Does Netcraft confirm it? > Are we poisoned? Fortunately Jim's post of his OSCON findings arrived just in time. I am sure the cure will work. Andrew

OT: Wifi under MS Windows!

2006-07-31 Thread Steve Holdoway
To set the scene... my old tosh lappie is starting to fall apart - the DVD reader now only reads CDs being the biggest problem. When I started having problems with the graphics as well ( nVidia users beware: there's now 2 drivers available, and I need the 'legacy' version on this lappie otherwis

Re: Scanner blues

2006-07-31 Thread Andrew Packer
Thanks for additional tips, Barry, Steve, Volker. 1. The scanner is the only USB device connected to this machine and is connected directly (no external hub). 2. /etc/sane.d/dll.conf had only "epson" uncommented. I tried commenting out "epson" and uncommenting "epkowa", then running iscan. This

Re: Scanner blues

2006-07-31 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:46:32 +1200 Andrew Packer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 22:51 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > > > > > All of those scanning options except iscan use sane as the base. I would be > > using the sane command line tools and looking for errors in their output >

Re: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 31 July 2006 22:25, Isaac Devine wrote: > Hi all, > > What has happened to clug? The monthly in person meeings are usually attended by 20 to 30 people. I think that's pretty good for a very niche market group. I am hoping to bring up the technical level of the talks. After Volker's secon

Re: Scanner blues

2006-07-31 Thread Barry
Hi Andrew, I'm rusty on this one, I have'nt used my scanner for quite a while and not on this install, but from memory some setting up has to be done in /etc/sane.d/epson.conf and/etc/sane.d/dll.conf. I see you have already looked at the epson.conf. Have you compared it with the same file on y

Re: CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:25:21 +1200 Isaac Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > What has happened to clug? > Where is all the nitty-gritty tech debate? (the hard stuff) > Do we just answer (RTFMable) modem/printer/wifi > configuration/compilation questions now? > WTF is with all the OT

Re: Scanner blues

2006-07-31 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> sane-find-scanner yields > > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0112 [EPSON > Scanner]) at libusb:004:005 > > scanimage -L yields > > device `epson:libusb:004:005' is a Epson GT-9700 flatbed scanner That's looking good - also http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu

CLUG is dying

2006-07-31 Thread Isaac Devine
Hi all, What has happened to clug? Where is all the nitty-gritty tech debate? (the hard stuff) Do we just answer (RTFMable) modem/printer/wifi configuration/compilation questions now? WTF is with all the OT posts - most of which aren't even labelled OT. Is clug dying? Are we poisoned? Isaac

Re: Scanner blues

2006-07-31 Thread Andrew Packer
On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 22:51 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > > All of those scanning options except iscan use sane as the base. I would be > using the sane command line tools and looking for errors in their output and > in the system logs. > > scanimage -L > > and > > sane-find-scanner > > come

Re: Roll-your-own boot CD

2006-07-31 Thread yuri
On 29/07/06, Robert Fisher wrote: On Saturday 29 July 2006 9:00 pm, Andrew Errington wrote: > Isn't Mepis fantastic. Seems it's only you and me that realise it... Yes it seems that way, although I wonder if others have thought that there have been more Ubuntu related questions on this list than