Re: Hotswapping internal hard drives - need RAID drives?

2007-11-07 Thread Phill Coxon
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 21:01 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > Any SATA drive will work in that swappy caddy. Good to know. > > Anyone else on this list hot-swapping drives? > > Yes. IDE via USB converter, SATA goes on straight. Neither show a > difference to a keyring USB gimmick in handling by

Re: Hotswapping internal hard drives - need RAID drives?

2007-11-07 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Wed 07 Nov 2007 21:34:50 NZDT +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: > if you're really paranoid, then the command > > sync > > followed by manually umounting the device is a pretty indestructable > belt and braces approach. The critical bit is the umount, the sync is included in the umount automaticall

Re: Hotswapping internal hard drives - need RAID drives?

2007-11-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:01:13 +1300 Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well lets put it this way: if you rip the drive off the computer while > writing to it and without unmounting it first, you *will* be cursing > regardless of whether it's USB or SATA, or Linux or Doze. Hint KDE: > righ

Re: Hotswapping internal hard drives - need RAID drives?

2007-11-07 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Wed 07 Nov 2007 13:24:12 NZDT +1300, Phill Coxon wrote: > I just bought one of these nifty hot swappable esata drive bays: > > http://icute.com.tw/english/iSwap201.htm Looks ideal. > I want to use it for off site backups i.e.: backup to the drive, pop it > out to take off site and replace wi

Re: Hotswapping internal hard drives - need RAID drives?

2007-11-06 Thread Phill Coxon
On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 13:37 +1300, Michael Fincham wrote: > IIRC, the SATA standard always supports hotplug. The drivers don't > always, but the support has improved massively in recent Linux kernels. > > That said, I won't be responsible for your data loss / hardware damage ;) > > FWIW, I hotpl

Re: Hotswapping internal hard drives - need RAID drives?

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Fincham
IIRC, the SATA standard always supports hotplug. The drivers don't always, but the support has improved massively in recent Linux kernels. That said, I won't be responsible for your data loss / hardware damage ;) FWIW, I hotplug regular sata all the time. -Michael Phill Coxon wrote: I just b

Re: Hotswapping internal hard drives - need RAID drives?

2007-11-06 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:24:12 +1300 Phill Coxon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just bought one of these nifty hot swappable esata drive bays: > > http://icute.com.tw/english/iSwap201.htm > > I want to use it for off site backups i.e.: backup to the drive, pop it > out to take off site and replace w

Hotswapping internal hard drives - need RAID drives?

2007-11-06 Thread Phill Coxon
I just bought one of these nifty hot swappable esata drive bays: http://icute.com.tw/english/iSwap201.htm I want to use it for off site backups i.e.: backup to the drive, pop it out to take off site and replace with another drive. Can anyone here confirm I'm right in thinking that I'll need to