Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-09-04 Thread Aaron Christensen
> > Apparently we voted no to OpenXML getting it's ISO certification, here is > the link > http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/NZ-rejects-Microsoft-OOXML-Sweden-confused/0,339028227,339281682,00.htm

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-09-02 Thread Stein Magne
Den 30. aug. 2007 kl. 19.14 skrev Eliot Blennerhassett: Steve Holdoway wrote: Can anyone send me a scan? I'm nowhere near a paper shop. I feel the need to reply. Belatedly, for the record in this thread (As posted on NZLUG) http://it.gen.nz/ooxml/msnzopenletter.pdf Here is more news on OOX

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-30 Thread Eliot Blennerhassett
Steve Holdoway wrote: > Can anyone send me a scan? I'm nowhere near a paper shop. I feel the need to > reply. Belatedly, for the record in this thread (As posted on NZLUG) http://it.gen.nz/ooxml/msnzopenletter.pdf

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-29 Thread Christopher Sawtell
Folks might care to read: http://www.standards.org.nz/news-and-seminars/current-news/New+Zealand+casts+Open+XML+vote.htm and afterwards be in a celebratory mood. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-29 Thread alanw
." Ah, transparency... - Original Message - From: Vik Olliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML > On Wed, 2007-08-29 Zane Gilmore wrote: > > MS claim that OOXML will: Protect our heritage, Provide choice, Secu

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-29 Thread Vik Olliver
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 15:19 +1200, Zane Gilmore wrote: > The letter in the Press today seems incredible. > MS claim that OOXML will: > Protect our heritage > Provide choice > Secure our future > Foster innovation http://holloway.co.nz/sincerity-generator/ Vik :v)

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-29 Thread Wesley Parish
A real eye-opener is this one: http://www.arstdesign.com/articles/DefectiveByDesign.htm http://ooxmlisdefectivebydesign.blogspot.com/ Note the interesting detail about just how _unified_ the Microsoft Office team is ... Word, Excel and Powerpoint use different text formatting markups plus the sh

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-28 Thread Zane Gilmore
Carl Cerecke wrote: On second reading, they have been extremely careful in their choice of words. About the only firm contestable statement they make as fact is "Supporting Open XML as an ISO standard is a good thing for New Zealand". The rest of the statements are either trivially true, or "We b

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-28 Thread Zane Gilmore
The NZ Open Source Society has been fighting this stuff for a while. Initially MS tried to patent the formats spoken about in that open letter. There are a few good sites detailing the falsity of Microsoft's claims e.g. http://ooxmlisdefectivebydesign.blogspot.com/ and http://blogs.sun.com/korn/

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On second reading, they have been extremely careful in their choice of words. About the only firm contestable statement they make as fact is "Supporting Open XML as an ISO standard is a good thing for New Zealand". The rest of the statements are either trivially true, or "We believe"/"We urge" driv

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-28 Thread Ben Ford
I read an interesting article on kind of related to this yesterday in LXF... The upshot is that when you buy Vista with the M$ office trial the option to save in anything other than Office XML (DOCX?) is disabled. Likewise you can't copy the text in said document and paste it into another document

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
I've read it. I'm pretty sure it contravenes something on: http://www.asa.co.nz/code_ethics.php Make a difference here: http://www.asa.co.nz/complaint_form.php So. Who is going to torture themselves by transcribing it for those who don't get the paper? Cheers, Carl. On 29/08/07, Ross Drummond

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-28 Thread Steve Holdoway
Sorry, at it again. Searching for anything relevant finds http://www.stuff.co.nz/4182703a28.html Critics urge rejection of Microsoft "open" format on reuters. Maybe the two are related? Steve On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:06:42 +1200 Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007

Re: Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-28 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:45:09 +1200 Ross Drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was intrigued to find an open letter from Microsoft addressed "To all New > Zealanders" on page C5 of todays Christchurch Press. > > It urges Standards New Zealand to support the ISO ratification of Open XML > stan

Microsoft letter todays Christchurch Press re Open XML

2007-08-28 Thread Ross Drummond
I was intrigued to find an open letter from Microsoft addressed "To all New Zealanders" on page C5 of todays Christchurch Press. It urges Standards New Zealand to support the ISO ratification of Open XML standard. Cheers Ross Drummond I note from the letter that Microsoft's Christchurch offic