Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-29 Thread Vik Olliver
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 09:07, Carl Cerecke wrote: > Just in case anybody thinks of actually doing this, I've heard that it > is a bad idea (read: fried components) because of the different > electrical ground potential (or something like that) in each house. That's not really a problem because of

Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-29 Thread Vik Olliver
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 09:18, Nick Rout wrote: > there has been a long thread on this on nzlug. i didn't follow it to its > bitter end, but Vik Olliver 9who seems to have read the ethernet specs > and designed ethernet equipment) says the prescribed isolation in > ethernet should prevent problems.

Re: FW: Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Lance Blackler
7 +1200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart) > Is there an opto coupler (opto isolator?) suitable for lan cables? - if so - that would allow you to do this. You making this suggestion at all means you haven't read the wri

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Jason Greenwood
Hmm, like stuffing a Genie back in a bottle I guess. Volker Kuhlmann wrote: that is not my little black mark. =) I don't consider it my job to ensure they keep me on a service I signed up for! They're big boys ole' You missed the point. If you are found to have *knowingly* caused damage to

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> that is not my little black mark. =) I don't consider it my job to > ensure they keep me on a service I signed up for! They're big boys ole' You missed the point. If you are found to have *knowingly* caused damage to someone else, you might find yourself liable for some of the damage. Paying f

Re: FW: Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Is there an opto coupler (opto isolator?) suitable for lan cables? - if so - that would allow you to do this. You making this suggestion at all means you haven't read the writeup, or you didn't understand the issues. Read the text, and if it's still unclear why "opto-isolator" is a moot point, a

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Jason Greenwood
Thanks for the heads up. I asked them only in regards to their new pricing changes. I was just ringing to ensure there was not a new cap being imposed on previous uncapped JetStart clients (like me) so I hope that is not my little black mark. =) I don't consider it my job to ensure they keep me

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Mike Beattie
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 09:47:45AM +1200, Jason Greenwood wrote: > I rang Telecom and they said no to this one. They said Xtra imposes a > cap but that they don't on their ADSL lines as such. They said my ISP > would do that if they so chose, which they don't. I pay $52.50/Mo. in > total for an

FW: Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Lance Blackler
Sorry - meant to reply to list -Original Message- From: Lance Blackler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 29 Sep 11:08:20 2003 +1200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart) Is there an opto coupler (opto isolator?) suitable f

Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> >Bloody hell, I should run a length of Cat5 to my neighbours and charge > >them! Make my Internet access free... =) > > Just in case anybody thinks of actually doing this, I've heard that it > is a bad idea (read: fried components) because of the different > electrical ground potential (or s

Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Andy George
Cerecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 9:07 AM Subject: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart) > Jason Greenwood wrote: > > Bloody hell, I should run a length of Cat5 to my neighbours and charge > > them! Make

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Jason Greenwood
I rang Telecom and they said no to this one. They said Xtra imposes a cap but that they don't on their ADSL lines as such. They said my ISP would do that if they so chose, which they don't. I pay $52.50/Mo. in total for an uncapped 128K (well more now) connection. Been that way since I signed u

RE: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
ssage- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 29 September 2003 9:40 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:27:07 +1200 Jason Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the idea =) Though I'm

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:27:07 +1200 Jason Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the idea =) Though I'm not so sure Telecom would LOL yes and i'm guessing that you still have a monthly cap. with paradise on jetstart my limit is 10G, which I calculated once would pretty well take

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Jason Greenwood
I like the idea =) Though I'm not so sure Telecom would LOL Nick Rout wrote: exactly (pictures in his mind a team of cars/laptops outside jason's house, all downloading the same isos) *need to download xfree 4.3 and kde 3.2?? *park up at jason's! PS there is a couple of short vids on wire

Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Michael Pearce
> Just in case anybody thinks of actually doing this, I've heard that it > is a bad idea (read: fried components) because of the different > electrical ground potential (or something like that) in each house. > > Somebody with some electrical engineering knowledge (that's you Volker!) > could put

Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:07:28 +1200 Carl Cerecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jason Greenwood wrote: > > Bloody hell, I should run a length of Cat5 to my neighbours and charge > > them! Make my Internet access free... =) > > Just in case anybody thinks of actually doing this, I've heard that it

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Nick Rout
exactly (pictures in his mind a team of cars/laptops outside jason's house, all downloading the same isos) *need to download xfree 4.3 and kde 3.2?? *park up at jason's! PS there is a couple of short vids on wireless stuff to show tonight :-) [just a sly meeting reminder] On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 0

Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Paul Swafford
One could always go the wireless route - they're getting seriously affordable these days especially the 11meg cards .. regards Paul Swafford PS Knoppix 3.3 rocks! (Manager, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arts Centre) (Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ) (ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com) On

Re: (Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Jason Greenwood
Yeah, I've been perverted. =) Carl Cerecke wrote: Jason Greenwood wrote: Bloody hell, I should run a length of Cat5 to my neighbours and charge them! Make my Internet access free... =) Just in case anybody thinks of actually doing this, I've heard that it is a bad idea (read: fried componen

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-28 Thread Hamish McBrearty
Three words man: Wifi hot spot!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Bloody hell, I should run a length of Cat5 to my neighbours and charge >them! Make my Internet access free... =) > >Robert Fisher wrote: > >>No such luck here. Perhaps we could string a UTP cable from my place to >>yours. LOL >>

(Cat5 to neighbours (was Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart)

2003-09-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
Jason Greenwood wrote: Bloody hell, I should run a length of Cat5 to my neighbours and charge them! Make my Internet access free... =) Just in case anybody thinks of actually doing this, I've heard that it is a bad idea (read: fried components) because of the different electrical ground potenti

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Jason Greenwood
I bet! =) Anton wrote: Jason Greenwood wrote: Did they catch on or did you get that speed till you moved? till we moved. If we hadn't have been leaving wellies we would have stayed there for sure, in spite of the fact that it was a complete dive... :-) anton

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Anton
Jason Greenwood wrote: Did they catch on or did you get that speed till you moved? till we moved. If we hadn't have been leaving wellies we would have stayed there for sure, in spite of the fact that it was a complete dive... :-) anton

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Jason Greenwood
Jeez, you'd think Telescum would notice if they "accidentally" switched someone from a 128k pipe to a 2MB pipe wouldn't ya? =) Nick Rout wrote: yes but if he hasn't ordered it he cannot be charged for it. On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:09:18+(GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Hi All,

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Jason Greenwood
Bloody hell, I should run a length of Cat5 to my neighbours and charge them! Make my Internet access free... =) Robert Fisher wrote: No such luck here. Perhaps we could string a UTP cable from my place to yours. LOL

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Jason Greenwood
Did they catch on or did you get that speed till you moved? Cheers Jason Anton wrote: I had the same deal in Wellington a couple of years back with Paradise cable. We were on the 128k-10gig plan and got regular (most of the time) 512k speeds! We didn't complain, and they didn't find out. I'd

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Jason Greenwood
I didn't order it and my contract was for JetStart ONLY. What I am thinking is that perhaps in an area ADSL bandwidth is shared and perhaps I am in an area now where I am the only one on this adsl cabinet using it. All I did was change addresses (I moved obviously) and told Telecom to switch ad

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Robert Fisher
No such luck here. Perhaps we could string a UTP cable from my place to yours. LOL On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 12:57, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Hi All, > > I have something weird going on with my Jetstream (Jetstart) account. I > have ICONZ as my ISP with Telecom (of couse) providing my actual ADSL >

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Anton
I had the same deal in Wellington a couple of years back with Paradise cable. We were on the 128k-10gig plan and got regular (most of the time) 512k speeds! We didn't complain, and they didn't find out. I'd be pretty sure they wouldn't make you pay if you haven't done anything. Then again - Par

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Nick Rout
yes but if he hasn't ordered it he cannot be charged for it. On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:09:18+(GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi there, > > > Hi All, > > > > I have something weird going on with my Jetstream (Jetstart) > > account. I have ICONZ as my ISP with Telecom (of couse) providing my >

Re: OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread mrblobby
Hi there, > Hi All, > > I have something weird going on with my Jetstream (Jetstart) account. I > have ICONZ as my ISP with Telecom (of couse) providing my actual ADSL > line. I signed up for Jetstart (uncapped) which they reckon should be > about 3x the speed of dialup at around 15-16K/s. Wel

OT - JetStream and JetStart

2003-09-27 Thread Jason Greenwood
Hi All, I have something weird going on with my Jetstream (Jetstart) account. I have ICONZ as my ISP with Telecom (of couse) providing my actual ADSL line. I signed up for Jetstart (uncapped) which they reckon should be about 3x the speed of dialup at around 15-16K/s. Well, when they just rece