Blender (Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003)

2003-07-01 Thread Helmut Walle
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Christopher Sawtell wrote: ... > Peter Elliott: Is that you? > > (3) My son and I would be very grateful indeed to be given a leg-up into the > use of Blender, and possibly kpovmodeler & PovRay. The software is installed > and as far as I can tell seems to work, but the human

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Vik Olliver
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 12:54, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:00, you wrote: > > Open office might be abit to slow but what about abiword and Gnumeric? > 1) Too big a departure from what they are used to. New programs give folks who > are not computer oriented the fundamental sh

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:16, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> In my terminal program I get bash-2.05b$ where I used to get (I think) > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Oh good, then it's not just me :o) Do tell me if you fix that The default PS1 is set up in /etc/profile hth -- C. S.

RE: RE: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Brad Beveridge
Does this help? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=5850&highlight=bash+prompt Brad > -Original Message- > From: Hamish McBrearty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 30 June 2003 3:17 p.m. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE: CLUG Clinic Meeting -

Re: RE: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Hamish McBrearty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> In my terminal program I get bash-2.05b$ where I used to get (I think) >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh good, then it's not just me :o) Do tell me if you fix that - Hamish McBrearty MCSE MCSA Network Engineer Rangi Ruru Gi

RE: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 30 June 2003 3:01 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:31, you wrote: > I have a problem with my PC too since I recently ran etc-update > (Gentoo). > > At start-up I see heaps of

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:31, you wrote: > I have a problem with my PC too since I recently ran etc-update > (Gentoo). > > At start-up I see heaps of lines flashing past saying > modprobe: can't locate module /dev/ttySxx > > In my terminal program I get bash-2.05b$ where I used to get (I think) > [EMA

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:00, you wrote: > Open office might be abit to slow but what about abiword and Gnumeric? 1) Too big a departure from what they are used to. New programs give folks who are not computer oriented the fundamental shudders. 2) Interoperatability. afaik OOo is the only OSS packag

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Chad
Open office might be abit to slow but what about abiword and Gnumeric? They seem to have much lower sys requirements and load much faster! Also if Linux was to be installed your'd want to use Mandrake as it's i586 compiled and you want every drop of speed you can get from those older machines.

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:29:48 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pentium I, 133 Mhz, 64 Mb, no HD, no floppy, no CD > Off to Molten Media. should make a reasonable xterm for ltsp or similar. will also run win 9x. -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:28, you wrote: > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > I have offered our services to install a Linux distro on two identical > > machines for the Spreydon Baptist Pre-School on that evening. These are > > the machines which will be used by the children. Suggestions as to what > >

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Ken McAllister
Christopher Sawtell wrote: I have offered our services to install a Linux distro on two identical machines for the Spreydon Baptist Pre-School on that evening. These are the machines which will be used by the children. Suggestions as to what child oriented packages should go into the software lo

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Hamish McBrearty
>I have not heard anything more about this one. They may or not be coming. >I >will have a Knoppix with the install script and the stickers program >ready in >case they turn up. Anybody else got any good ideas about KidWare for >pre-schoolers? > I'll bring along my Tux 4 Kids cd. It's Knoppix bu

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-29 Thread Robert Fisher
I have a problem with my PC too since I recently ran etc-update (Gentoo). At start-up I see heaps of lines flashing past saying modprobe: can't locate module /dev/ttySxx In my terminal program I get bash-2.05b$ where I used to get (I think) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have not been able to compile

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-28 Thread Vik Olliver
I'd strongly recommend Art of Illusion from http://www.artofillusion.org or off the PC World cover CD before last. Runs under Java so you can put it anywhere, and it's unusually fast for Java. My kids like it, and it has just become good enough for me to do some of my professional animation work o

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-27 Thread Peter Elliott
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:48:25 +1200 Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings Members, > hi there christopher > > (2) Nick Brettell is coming with a portable with apm / acpi problems. > It's been suggested that he need a kernel upgrade to a more recent or > patched kernel

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:04, you wrote: > Hi there, > > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > >>I can help you with POVray if you would like, since I've been hooked > > > > Thank you very much indeed, as a quid pro quo I'll do my best to get your > > scanner to go. I seem to remember finding a set of patches

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-27 Thread Chris Wilkinson
Hi there, Christopher Sawtell wrote: I can help you with POVray if you would like, since I've been hooked Thank you very much indeed, as a quid pro quo I'll do my best to get your scanner to go. I seem to remember finding a set of patches in a French ftp archive a month or three back. Caleb, my

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:33, you wrote: > Hi there, > > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > (3) My son and I would be very grateful indeed to be given a leg-up > > into the use of Blender, and possibly kpovmodeler & PovRay. The software > > is installed and as far as I can tell seems to work, but the hu

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-27 Thread Chris Wilkinson
Hi there, Christopher Sawtell wrote: (3) My son and I would be very grateful indeed to be given a leg-up into the use of Blender, and possibly kpovmodeler & PovRay. The software is installed and as far as I can tell seems to work, but the human interface seems to be a work or art explicity disp

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-11 Thread Peter Elliott
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:06:05 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what you say is correct BUT doing without the mandrake patches is likely > to break something. a two edged sword really. > > anyway, i understood acpi is in the kernel isn't it? is it necessary to > patch? > > where do i

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Nick Brettell
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Sawtell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:12, you wrote: > > > >

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 23:12, you wrote: > > Might be a good idea to do a 'uname -r' to confirm that, it'd be pity to > > turn > > > up at the evening with the wrong kernel. > > Yes, I checked it and it is indeed 2.4.21... But we need to know what the ellipsis ( ... ) is hiding? -- C. S.

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Nick Brettell
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Sawtell" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 PM Subject: Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:53, you wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Peter Ellio

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:35:46 +1200 Peter Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:04:23 +1200 > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I suspect he is better to download the kernel source for his distro > > and kernel version - otherwise other things may break. > > > > >

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:53, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Peter Elliott" > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:35 PM > Subject: Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 > > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:04:23 +1200 > > &g

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Nick Brettell
- Original Message - From: "Peter Elliott" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:35 PM Subject: Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:04:23 +1200 > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I suspect he is bette

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Peter Elliott
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:04:23 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suspect he is better to download the kernel source for his distro and > kernel version - otherwise other things may break. > > um yes and no (irish blood) we could try it that way but a common problem here is that d

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Nick Rout
I suspect he is better to download the kernel source for his distro and kernel version - otherwise other things may break. On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 21:00, Peter Elliott wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:04:22 +1200 > Nick Brettell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:1

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Peter Elliott
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:04:22 +1200 Nick Brettell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:17:55 +1200 > > Nick Rout wrote: > > > >> It may need acpi turned on in the kernel. I assume you have done the > >> usual google searches? and the linux laptops page? > > > > Yes, but I'm

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-10 Thread Nick Rout
is? > > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter Elliott" > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:49 PM > Subject: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 > > > re acpi - this will entail patching the kernel as the acpi patch is still &g

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Nick Rout
buggered if I know actually! On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:49:16 +1200 Peter Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > re acpi - this will entail patching the kernel as the acpi patch is still waiting > for inclusion into the marcelo(ie stable) tree OR using one from the -ac (alan cox) tree since this patch

Re: laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Nick Brettell
kernel... I'm still fairly new to linux, and I don't want to try it when I don't know what I'm doing. Maybe someone could give me a hand with all of this? - Original Message - From: "Peter Elliott" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:49 PM Subject: laptop acpi

laptop acpi Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Peter Elliott
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:17:55 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:13:02 +1200 > Nick Brettell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Its a (fairly new) Dell Inspiron N2800X (I think its called) P4 processor... > > It may need acpi turned on in the kernel. I assum

RE: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Same here, Debian (via Knoppix) installed fine on SCSI disks. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 7:13 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 On Mon

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:13:02 +1200 Nick Brettell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Its a (fairly new) Dell Inspiron N2800X (I think its called) P4 processor... It may need acpi turned on in the kernel. I assume you have done the usual google searches? and the linux laptops page? -- Nick Rout <[EM

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Nick Brettell
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Sawtell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 > On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 18:26, you wrote: > > - Original Messa

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 20:40, you wrote: > thx for the replies > Nick i will try that with knoppix but if that doesn't work i will bring it > along to the meeting. > Thanks > > ps. C.S you wnated to know what scsi adapter it was adaptec AIC-7850 / > AIC-7880 there is two There is a driver for the AIC-

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Benjamin Devine
thx for the replies Nick i will try that with knoppix but if that doesn't work i will bring it along to the meeting. Thanks ps. C.S you wnated to know what scsi adapter it was adaptec AIC-7850 / AIC-7880 there is two man my footer is way tooo big Nick Rout said: > tried installing from knoppix,

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Nick Rout
tried installing from knoppix, then apt-get removing the bits you don't want? I have installed debian from scratch before, but not for a while. On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 19:00:20+1200(NZST) Benjamin Devine<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to bring a server along to install debian on. > does an

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 19:00, you wrote: > I would like to bring a server along to install debian on. > does anyone have any disks. Yes, as soon as Rik launches the boomerang back home. :-) > It has SCSI so i don't know how to go about it. What make / model of host adaptor have you got? > I just wan

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 18:26, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Sawtell" > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:20 PM > Subject: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 > > > [...] > > > Members who need help to sort out problems, please make you needs > > known. > > I > > >

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-09 Thread Benjamin Devine
I would like to bring a server along to install debian on. does anyone have any disks. It has SCSI so i don't know how to go about it. I just want some "Advanced Guidance" |Ben Nick Brettell said: > > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Sawtell" > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:20 PM

Re: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003

2003-06-08 Thread Nick Brettell
- Original Message - From: "Christopher Sawtell" Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: CLUG Clinic Meeting - Monday 30 June 2003 [...] > Members who need help to sort out problems, please make you needs known. I > think the capacity of the mains supply limits the number of mach