Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-08 Thread Rik Tindall
A few thoughts towards the UoC Installfest proposal.. Good idea, with Jonathan's specifics, but as soon as is practical: Avoid exam-time (Jul-Aug?); Nick will be here; SFD tees & surplus free CDs will be there, but with no overt organisational role/requirements - CLUG organised; avoid SFD task

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-08 Thread Rik Tindall
Zane Gilmore wrote: Campbell McKenzie wrote: There's a wireless AP we may be able to make use of. Is there going to be internet access too. Might need to download some wireless drivers for people (eg. NDIS Wrapper) and maybe updates too? Maybe someone could set up a wee proxy for the day (red

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-08 Thread Jonathan Bell
> But two CLUG SFD installfests on at the same time? I agree that two installfests is a bad idea if it splits and dilutes the knowledge/resources required. But... here are a few random reasons for a second one: It might be OK if we're targetting different geographical populations and possibly di

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-08 Thread Zane Gilmore
Campbell McKenzie wrote: There's a wireless AP we may be able to make use of. Is there going to be internet access too. Might need to download some wireless drivers for people (eg. NDIS Wrapper) and maybe updates too? Maybe someone could set up a wee proxy for the day (reduce bandwidth and incr

RE: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-08 Thread Campbell McKenzie
>There's a wireless AP we may be able to make use >of. Is there going to be internet access too. Might need to download some wireless drivers for people (eg. NDIS Wrapper) and maybe updates too? Maybe someone could set up a wee proxy for the day (reduce bandwidth and increase speed). --cAm

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-08 Thread HappyEvilSlosh
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 13:06 +1200, Zane Gilmore wrote: > Although I may be able to talk the relevant people into hosting the > Installfest at the Varsity, I think we should also >explore any other possible venues. Additional to this. I spoke to the Dictator[1] of KAOS[2] about the possibilit

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-08 Thread Kevin & Kerry
ECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day Nick Rout wrote: I believe its time for another installfest. I know that installing linux is getting easier, but there are still barriers, and the publicity that ensues has always been g

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Rik Tindall
Nick Rout wrote: I believe its time for another installfest. I know that installing linux is getting easier, but there are still barriers, and the publicity that ensues has always been good for the community, and for fresh blood into CLUG. It would be good to tie into Software Freedom Day, which

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Fisher
On Monday 07 May 2007 10:24 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > Look carefully at the crowd during the All Blacks/Scotland game at > Murrayfield, Edinburgh on approx 23 September. You may see us there, if > the cameras pan to the cheap seats! Edinburgh? France? Make sure you catch the right plane Nick.

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 07 May 2007 22:24:22 +1200 (NZST) Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, May 7, 2007 9:54 pm, Robert Fisher wrote: > > Nick Rout wrote: > >> * If you feel I deserve to help (having mooted the idea) it'll have be > >> in > >> another month. > >> > >> > > Change your holiday to Fr

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, May 7, 2007 9:54 pm, Robert Fisher wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: >> * If you feel I deserve to help (having mooted the idea) it'll have be >> in >> another month. >> >> > Change your holiday to France dates to October and see the Rugby World > Cup too. > > Look carefully at the crowd during

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 07 May 2007 21:33:04 Nick Rout wrote: > On Sat, May 5, 2007 10:24 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > > I believe its time for another installfest. I know that installing > > linux is getting easier, but there are still barriers, and the > > publicity that ensues has always been good for the community

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 07 May 2007 21:54:04 +1200 Robert Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: > > * If you feel I deserve to help (having mooted the idea) it'll have be in > > another month. > > > > > Change your holiday to France dates to October and see the Rugby World > Cup too. ...and tak

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Fisher
Nick Rout wrote: * If you feel I deserve to help (having mooted the idea) it'll have be in another month. Change your holiday to France dates to October and see the Rugby World Cup too.

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, May 5, 2007 10:24 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > I believe its time for another installfest. I know that installing linux > is getting easier, but there are still barriers, and the publicity that > ensues has always been good for the community, and for fresh blood into > CLUG. > > It would be good

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Mon 07 May 2007 13:21:32 NZST +1200, Jonathan Bell wrote: > [Wonder if there's a Unilug?] You've just posted to it. At least historically speaking. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread HappyEvilSlosh
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 13:06 +1200, Zane Gilmore wrote: > It may be still at the Uni' but the Shelley Common Room of the UCSA is > one venue that always struck me as a great possible venue. > It is not , however, owned by the University, > > To get it for as close to no-cost as possible we will ne

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-07 Thread Jonathan Bell
Perhaps get hold of the student coordinator of the IEEE too? //TODO FYI, got a business card for John Spencer at UCSA: John Spencer Night Manager W: 364 3652 ext 3905 F: 364 2670 M: 027 246 9725 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The secretary said he's the GOTO man for this sort of thing. (My C64 days mak

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Bell
> To get it for as close to no-cost as possible we will need > some current students to make the application from a > registered club (in this case maqybe the local chapter of > the ACM?) as it is owned by the Student's Association. (I > know we have at least one on the list) > I'm a member of

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-06 Thread Zane Gilmore
Nick Rout wrote: I believe its time for another installfest. I know that installing linux is getting easier, but there are still barriers, and the publicity that ensues has always been good for the community, and for fresh blood into CLUG. The main barrier is the easiest to overcome... fear. Wh

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-06 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, May 6, 2007 7:26 pm, yuri wrote: > On 06/05/07, Nick Rout wrote: >> > The common distros install quicker now too and PC's are generally >> faster >> > than >> > when we last ran an Installfest so we should be able to help more >> punters >> > in >> > a shorter time. >> >> And/or give some

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-06 Thread yuri
On 06/05/07, Nick Rout wrote: > The common distros install quicker now too and PC's are generally faster > than > when we last ran an Installfest so we should be able to help more punters > in > a shorter time. And/or give some basic tuition instead of saying "there you go its installed, I have

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, May 6, 2007 9:06 am, Robert Fisher wrote: > On Saturday 05 May 2007 10:24 pm, Nick Rout wrote: >> I believe its time for another installfest. >> >> So, thoughts anyone? > > I think it is a good idea. > > The common distros install quicker now too and PC's are generally faster > than > when

Re: Installfest - maybe on Software Freedom Day

2007-05-05 Thread Robert Fisher
On Saturday 05 May 2007 10:24 pm, Nick Rout wrote: > I believe its time for another installfest. > > So, thoughts anyone? I think it is a good idea. The common distros install quicker now too and PC's are generally faster than when we last ran an Installfest so we should be able to help more pu

Re: Installfest

2005-09-21 Thread Richard Tindall
Douglas Royds wrote: What has attendance been like at the GLU meetings? Regrettably I haven't been able to attend any (yet). It's steady now. About half of CLUG's. That's contributory to being able to settle down to specific tasks, as they crop up, as a group. c15 is supposed to be a 'magic

Re: Installfest

2005-09-21 Thread Douglas Royds
What has attendance been like at the GLU meetings? Regrettably I haven't been able to attend any (yet). How many people at the last GLU meeting? How many desktop PCs? How many laptops? Can anyone that has attended these meetings take a stab at some numbers? Nick Rout wrote: Look at it this

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread Ralph Stoker
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 10:50, Robert Fisher wrote: The installfest of 2004 at Canty Uni. (plus associated CLUG / GNU after help) pretty much enabled me to enter into the Linux worldwithout it I would have definitely given up (in body not spirit). Computing wise it was the best money

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread Richard Tindall
Robert Fisher wrote: Nick Rout wrote: Perhaps we need to advertise them to the general public and move them to (say) a saturday. Then they will have to cost people (hall hire, advertising in the Press etc.) Can I ask if people on this list who started with an Installfest can comment on the

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread Robert Fisher
Nick Rout wrote: > Perhaps we need to advertise them to the general public and move them to > (say) a saturday. Then they will have to cost people (hall hire, > advertising in the Press etc.) > Can I ask if people on this list who started with an Installfest can comment on their own experience? -

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:35:15 +1200 Douglas Royds wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: > > >This leaves people with a bit of a learning curve, the steepest part of > >the learning curve maybe: modem, accelerated graphics, flash, java, a > >chat program that connects to MSN, printing, accessing windows > >fi

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread Douglas Royds
Nick Rout wrote: This leaves people with a bit of a learning curve, the steepest part of the learning curve maybe: modem, accelerated graphics, flash, java, a chat program that connects to MSN, printing, accessing windows filesystems (both on the same machine and over the net), adsl, the ipod/pa

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread Dale & Yvonne Ogilvie
It sounds like you genuinely want to help the punters Nick. Bravo. In fact, possibly the installfest should be consigned to the dark ages and replaced with the config-fest! For sure, installing a distro like Suse is pretty much a piece of cake, but getting the printer/digital camera/usb stick t

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:56, Douglas Royds wrote: > Christopher Sawtell wrote: > >On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:10, Nick Rout wrote: > >>2. A "General Public" Installfest. This has been mooted at various times > >>- but hasn't happenned this year. I suspect most epople can't be > >>bothered and this is why

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 17:56 +1200, Douglas Royds wrote: > >>2. A "General Public" Installfest. This has been mooted at various > times > >>- but hasn't happenned this year. I suspect most epople can't be > >>bothered and this is why it hasn't happenned! Comments? > >> > >> > > > >imho, it hasn'

Re: Installfest

2005-09-20 Thread yuri
On 20/09/05, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > Couldn't agree less, I'm sorry Chris. The distro's may indeed be much > > improved (I have to take others' words for this, as I'm still a relative > > newcomer), but the overall Linux learning curve remains somewhat steep. > > This is a misleading statement.

Re: Installfest

2005-09-19 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Couldn't agree less, I'm sorry Chris. The distro's may indeed be much > improved (I have to take others' words for this, as I'm still a relative > newcomer), but the overall Linux learning curve remains somewhat steep. This is a misleading statement. Better would be "the overall computer opera

Re: Installfest

2005-09-19 Thread Douglas Royds
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:10, Nick Rout wrote: 2. A "General Public" Installfest. This has been mooted at various times - but hasn't happenned this year. I suspect most epople can't be bothered and this is why it hasn't happenned! Comments? imho, it hasn't happ

Re: Installfest

2005-09-19 Thread Douglas Royds
Quoting Carl [1]: "If somebody wants to get something done (a meeting, say), they generally organise it themselves, with whoever volunteers to help them. If nobody is willing to help, then maybe its a bad idea (or wrong timing... whatever). This process works because: 1. bad ideas die. 2. goo

Re: Installfest

2005-09-19 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:10, Nick Rout wrote: > Speaking of which, 2 items for the agenda: > > > 1. the gentoo mini-installfest in Roberts.Garage - Robert & I are still > willing to help all and sundry install gentoo, and also could be a hands > on kernel compiling session for those on "other distros

Re: Installfest

2005-09-19 Thread Nick Rout
Speaking of which, 2 items for the agenda: 1. the gentoo mini-installfest in Roberts.Garage - Robert & I are still willing to help all and sundry install gentoo, and also could be a hands on kernel compiling session for those on "other distros" and want to get more in depth than Chris's useful di

RE: Installfest

2004-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
> > -Original Message- > From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 July 2004 12:42 p.m. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Installfest > > On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 12:39, Nick Rout wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 08:48, Carl & Sue Thomps

RE: Installfest

2004-07-27 Thread Carl & Sue Thompson
ards Carl Thompson -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2004 12:42 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Installfest On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 12:39, Nick Rout wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 08:48, Carl & Sue Thompson wrote: > > The in

Re: Installfest

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Wilkins
Kerry Mayes wrote: Will this do the reverse? I have a large win partition on this machine that I'm now generally running linux on, can I make the win partion smaller prior to upgradeing to mdk 10? Don't want to kill the win partition as there's a lot of stuff that I want to keep (and I access it

Re: Installfest

2004-07-22 Thread Kerry Mayes
Will this do the reverse? I have a large win partition on this machine that I'm now generally running linux on, can I make the win partion smaller prior to upgradeing to mdk 10? Don't want to kill the win partition as there's a lot of stuff that I want to keep (and I access it under linux). Kerr

Re: Installfest

2004-07-20 Thread InfoHelp
Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:00:51 +1200 InfoHelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another reason why people may be wanting their 4th disk: PCMCIA/cardbus support (for laptop) which package is on CD4 that is needed for pcmcia? pcmcia-cs-x11-3.2.5-3mdk.i586.rpm & another that i can't recal

Re: Installfest

2004-07-20 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 19:00:51 +1200 InfoHelp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another reason why people may be wanting their 4th disk: > > PCMCIA/cardbus support (for laptop) which package is on CD4 that is needed for pcmcia? > > - come to Thursday 7.30pm meeting > > - David might like to send a

RE: Installfest

2004-07-20 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
Yes, I will start burning now. Can you bring a replacement CD?   Regards, Robert   -Original Message- From: Neville Paintin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 July 2004 10:16 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Installfest   Work night shift so can't get

Re: Installfest

2004-07-20 Thread Neville Paintin
ssage - From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Installfest I can burn you disk 4 if you like but I do not have the DVD cases. You could possibly get one of those on Thursday night

Re: Installfest

2004-07-20 Thread Neville Paintin
gards Neville...   Check out my Home Page At http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Spaintin/ - Original Message - From: Nick Rout To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Installfest no it was just a different model box ;-)yes someone here wil

RE: Installfest

2004-07-20 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
] Subject: Re: Installfest     I think I'll be right at the moment as far as the installation goes, have disabled the link to disk 4 but would like to get a copy of disk 4, I did notice there were 2 different size boxes at the installfest, did the larger one contain the 4th disk? if so, would

Re: Installfest

2004-07-20 Thread Nick Rout
age At http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Spaintin/ > - Original Message - > From: InfoHelp > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: Installfest > > > Disks 1-3 were only part 1 of the install process. > > Install

Re: Installfest

2004-07-20 Thread Neville Paintin
t one of those? Regards Neville...   Check out my Home Page At http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Spaintin/ - Original Message - From: InfoHelp To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Installfest Disks 1-3 were only part 1 o

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread InfoHelp
y 20, 2004 6:19 AM *Subject:* Re: Installfest On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:55, Neville Paintin wrote: > So, is the 4th disk available? I work night shift and can't make it > Thursday night, any other way I could get the 4th disk? I think that there are some left over from the

RE: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC)
] Subject: Re: Installfest     If they had the 4th disk available at the Installfest, how come I only got the 3 disks? I never got it installed, I just brought the disks although I did register on the web site to go along to the Installfest. Regards Neville...   Check out my Home Page

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Neville Paintin
://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Spaintin/ - Original Message - From: Robert Fisher To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:19 AM Subject: Re: Installfest On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:55, Neville Paintin wrote:> So, is the 4th disk available? I work night shift and can't

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Zane Gilmore
Paul Wilkins wrote: Zane Gilmore wrote: Philip Charles wrote: > The fourth disc is available to Mandrake Club Members only. I have heard this but what sort of licence is claimed for copying it and giving it away? There are no restrictions on that. All they ask is that you don't make money on th

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Jason Greenwood
disk? Regards Neville... Check out my Home Page At http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Spaintin/ - Original Message - *From:* InfoHelp <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Sent:* Monday, July 19, 2004 7:00 PM *Subject:

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Jason Greenwood
It will look in all places set up in the software manager as repositories. It is hierarchical, it will look locally first and then look on the designated mirrors from there Cheers Jason Paul Wilkins wrote: Philip Charles wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Paul Wilkins wrote: So what happens when

RE: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread David Kirk
> I was hoping to find out what happens when people install additional > software and are asked for cd4. > If the computers that were set up at the installfest, will it look > elsewhere for the files on cd4 if it's not available. When it needs a file from disk 4 it ejects the CD tray and waits u

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Wilkins
Philip Charles wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Paul Wilkins wrote: So what happens when someone cancels the request for disc 4, after being set up as per the installfest. Nothing of any importance. A package or two do not get installed. I was hoping to find out what happens when people inst

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Robert Fisher
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:55, Neville Paintin wrote: > So, is the 4th disk available? I work night shift and can't make it > Thursday night, any other way I could get the 4th disk? I think that there are some left over from the Installfest but if not I have the iso and can burn one for you. (wait to

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Neville Paintin
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Installfest Another reason why people may be wanting their 4th disk:PCMCIA/cardbus support (for laptop)- come to Thursday 7.30pm meeting- David might like to send along some disk 4s with Nick?Cheers,RikOn Mon, 19 Jul

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Philip Charles
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Jason Greenwood wrote: > > Paul Wilkins wrote: > > > >> If someone doesn't have disc 4 and don't envisage getting disc 4, what > >> adjustment can they make so that sch files are downloaded and > >> installed from the internet? > > > > Go here: > > http:/

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Wilkins
Zane Gilmore wrote: Philip Charles wrote: > The fourth disc is available to Mandrake Club Members only. I have heard this but what sort of licence is claimed for copying it and giving it away? There are no restrictions on that. All they ask is that you don't make money on the contents. -- Paul

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Wilkins
Jason Greenwood wrote: Paul Wilkins wrote: If someone doesn't have disc 4 and don't envisage getting disc 4, what adjustment can they make so that sch files are downloaded and installed from the internet? Go here: http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and set up main, contrib and plf sources for t

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Zane Gilmore
Philip Charles wrote: > The fourth disc is available to Mandrake Club Members only. I have heard this but what sort of licence is claimed for copying it and giving it away?

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Jason Greenwood
Go here: http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php and set up main, contrib and plf sources for the version you are running and you pretty much have access to everything Mandrake offers except proprietary Club Only stuff. Cheers Jason Paul Wilkins wrote: InfoHelp wrote: Another reason why people may

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Robert Fisher
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 20:25, Philip Charles wrote: > > The fourth disc is available to Mandrake Club Members only. > And if anyone is wondering, I am a Club Member. -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) www.fisher.net.nz BOFH Excuse #387: Your computer's union contract is set to e

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Philip Charles
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, InfoHelp wrote: > Another reason why people may be wanting their 4th disk: > > PCMCIA/cardbus support (for laptop) > > - come to Thursday 7.30pm meeting > > - David might like to send along some disk 4s with Nick? > The fourth disc is available to Mandrake Club Members only.

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread Paul Wilkins
InfoHelp wrote: Another reason why people may be wanting their 4th disk: PCMCIA/cardbus support (for laptop) - come to Thursday 7.30pm meeting - David might like to send along some disk 4s with Nick? If someone doesn't have disc 4 and don't envisage getting disc 4, what adjustment can they make s

Re: Installfest

2004-07-19 Thread InfoHelp
Another reason why people may be wanting their 4th disk: PCMCIA/cardbus support (for laptop) - come to Thursday 7.30pm meeting - David might like to send along some disk 4s with Nick? Cheers, Rik On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:20:32 +1200, Neville Paintin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I went along to

Re: Installfest

2004-07-18 Thread Robert Fisher
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:25, Jim Cheetham wrote: > On Jul 18, 2004, at 4:58 PM, Robert Fisher wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:39, Nick Rout wrote: > >> use qt_parted to delete the mandrake partitions and enlarge your xp > >> partition back to full size. > > > > I am not so sure that that method ca

Re: Installfest

2004-07-18 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Jul 18, 2004, at 4:58 PM, Robert Fisher wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:39, Nick Rout wrote: use qt_parted to delete the mandrake partitions and enlarge your xp partition back to full size. I am not so sure that that method can be used for making partitions larger. I tried it yesterday but could

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread InfoHelp
Notwithstanding the other lines of advice, of which finding a local expert is probably the most helpful; Welcome to the complex *nix world - where someone, somewhere has usually created a fix for your situation, or you need to create one for us all. The main answer to your dilemma rests with be

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread InfoHelp
hth, Rik Chad wrote: Look at these tables listing the features of the various versions Mandrake sells! http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/10/comparison as so: *Documentation* * *hcfpcimodem-doc 0.99lnxtbeta03042700

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread InfoHelp
This was a Q for Carl & Sue Thompson, primarily, to help us advise possible printer solutions. Glad you are finding SuSE as straightforward as I do tho. - Top place in the kwik-install toolkit? :-) Robert Fisher wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:53, InfoHelp wrote: I successfully loaded SuSE ont

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Robert Fisher
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:53, InfoHelp wrote: > >I successfully loaded SuSE onto a PC yesterday for Ralph. We got his Canon > >printer working fine, in fact it was auto-detected. > > Ditto for my installee, but using Mandrake. There was no dialogue about > it at all - it auto-installed & just worked.

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Robert Fisher
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:39, Nick Rout wrote: > boot the cd and run the program qtparted by typing run_qtparted from the > command line. > > use qt_parted to delete the mandrake partitions and enlarge your xp > partition back to full size. > I am not so sure that that method can be used for making

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread InfoHelp
Robert Fisher wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:23, Rex Johnston wrote: My advice to you is to leave the space free, grab a copy of those SuSE disks, find someone who is sufficently clued up to understand the guides http://www.tuxmobil.org and try again. You'll probably not get the printer workin

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Robert Fisher
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:18, Nick Rout wrote: > On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 10:02, Robert Fisher wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:23, Rex Johnston wrote: > > > My advice to you is to leave the space free, grab a copy of those SuSE > > > disks, find someone who is sufficently > > > clued up to understand t

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Rex Johnston
Chad wrote: Yes good old apt-get forgetting of course that urpmi now has pretty much all the same functionality. Including a few features that may be present in apt-get but if so I've never heard them mentioned. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/rex# apt-get moo (__) (oo) /--\/ /

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Compare like with like and Free version is not the like of the Pro version! Fair enough. However, the facts are that by far most computers have a losemodem(TM), and half of the reason people by a computer is to use email. Let's assume they want their modem to work (email) - I dare say not includ

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Rex Johnston
Chad wrote: Compare like with like and Free version is not the like of the Pro version! I was comparing what we had, with (surprise), what we had. Did you read the Doc provided to the installers? It was explained there as well as in the CLUG wiki. Also the urpmi sources weren't supposed to be a

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Michael
Actually, there is an ltmodem apt source: http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem/dists/debian/ For lucent winmodems. Michael. On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 11:26, Rex Johnston wrote: > steve wrote: > > > I'm not sure about the comment about 'If i'm going to go to the > > trouble of grabbing

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Chad
Rex Johnston wrote: > Well, there you go. I'd not like to guarantee that it will work, and > SuSE has modem drivers on the 5th CD. > It could work straight out of the box. > Well the 5th CD suggests your using one of the professional or better versions of SUSE so it's hardly fair to compare it t

Removing Linux was Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Jul 17, 2004, at 10:38 PM, Carl & Sue Thompson wrote: failing that how does one unistall linux to free up space that is of no use. First, make sure that the bootloader program defaults to Windows. That way you don't have to mess about with replacing the loader if you don't want to. The easies

RE: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Nick Rout
mand fixmbr to restore your boot loader. > > I assume you were backed up in preparation for yesterday, the same rule > applies before you do this! > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 17 Jul

RE: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Nick Rout
a repair console. run the command fixmbr to restore your boot loader. I assume you were backed up in preparation for yesterday, the same rule applies before you do this! > > -Original Message- > From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17 July 2004 11:17 p.m. > T

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> I find the best support from newsgroups. The most detailed and > informative are not in my native language. You're not going to contest > that the SuSE homeland is in central europe are you (^: Nope ;) Which newsgroups? The suse-linux-e mailing list has always been very informative all the t

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 10:02, Robert Fisher wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:23, Rex Johnston wrote: > > > > My advice to you is to leave the space free, grab a copy of those SuSE > > disks, find someone who is sufficently > > clued up to understand the guides http://www.tuxmobil.org and try > > aga

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 10:12, Rex Johnston wrote: > Robert Fisher wrote: > > >On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:23, Rex Johnston wrote: > > > > > >>My advice to you is to leave the space free, grab a copy of those SuSE > >>disks, find someone who is sufficently > >>clued up to understand the guides http://

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread steve
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: downside, too... like needing to be pretty good understanding german for in-depth support. ??? The manuals are available in several languages (and no other distro has that much manual). Official support requests have always been handled in English (as well as in other

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> downside, too... like needing to be pretty good understanding german for > in-depth support. ??? The manuals are available in several languages (and no other distro has that much manual). Official support requests have always been handled in English (as well as in other language(s)). Most of t

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread steve
Rex Johnston wrote: steve wrote: I'm not sure about the comment about 'If i'm going to go to the trouble of grabbing drivers from all over the place, i may as well install debian'. Why? All my drivers are from the standard sources via apt. My comment was aimed at strange hardware like those pes

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Rex Johnston
steve wrote: I'm not sure about the comment about 'If i'm going to go to the trouble of grabbing drivers from all over the place, i may as well install debian'. Why? All my drivers are from the standard sources via apt. My comment was aimed at strange hardware like those pesky winmodems. You

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread steve
Rex Johnston wrote: Robert Fisher wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:23, Rex Johnston wrote: My advice to you is to leave the space free, grab a copy of those SuSE disks, find someone who is sufficently clued up to understand the guides http://www.tuxmobil.org and try again. You'll probably not get

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Well, there you go. I'd not like to guarantee that it will work, and > SuSE has modem drivers on the 5th CD. > It could work straight out of the box. Yes it's a "could", but chances look good. > They've checked which version of all the > driver works with *their* kernel, and included it > wi

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Robert Fisher
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:12, Rex Johnston wrote: > Installing linux is a very time consuming job, and the brilliance of a > decent installer, like SuSE, is the sheer amount of > work that has gone into it. They've checked which version of all the > driver works with *their* kernel, and included it >

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Rex Johnston
Robert Fisher wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:23, Rex Johnston wrote: My advice to you is to leave the space free, grab a copy of those SuSE disks, find someone who is sufficently clued up to understand the guides http://www.tuxmobil.org and try again. You'll probably not get the printer working

Re: Installfest

2004-07-17 Thread Robert Fisher
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:23, Rex Johnston wrote: > > My advice to you is to leave the space free, grab a copy of those SuSE > disks, find someone who is sufficently > clued up to understand the guides http://www.tuxmobil.org and try > again. You'll probably not get the > printer working, but you *c

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